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Team Sergeant 04-30-2013 12:30

Obama walks back 'red line' stance on Syrian government
 
LOL, spineless. The damage Barry is doing to this nation will take 100 years to undo. He should be impeached and sent back to Chicago to flip hamburgers.


Obama walks back 'red line' stance on Syrian government using chemical weapons
Published April 30, 2013
FoxNews.com

President Obama, who earlier said use of chemical weapons by Syria on its people would be a “red line” requiring action by the U.S., walked the stance back on Tuesday, saying he needs more information on the reported attacks before responding.

Administration officials recently said intelligence analysts had "varying degrees of confidence" the embattled government of Syrian President Bashar Assad has gassed civilians with sarin. However, Obama said the administration is using all its resources to determine the facts about a weapon that he has said would be a "game changer" for U.S. policy in the war.

"If we end up rushing to judgment without hard, effective evidence ... we can find ourselves in a position where we can't marshal the international community in support of what we do," Obama said. "It's important for us to do this in a prudent way."

The administration long ago called for Assad to step down and pave the way for a new government. But Obama has resisted calls from some Republicans in Congress to send U.S. military aid to the rebels and perhaps commit U.S. military resources directly.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...#ixzz2RyMsLjgc

Trapper John 04-30-2013 12:34

And let me show you my "surprised" face :eek: Typical pattern for appeasers.

PRB 04-30-2013 12:42

No Bam fan but I'd let them finish their civil war by themselves....the only 'intervention' I'd agree with would be to destroy (prob not feasible without huge collateral damage) or secure his Gas stocks.
There is no real alternative element to support.

Dusty 04-30-2013 13:07

lol Ballsy move.

MR2 04-30-2013 13:09

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Originally Posted by Dusty (Post 504526)
lol Ballsy move.

You're so subtle... :D

Badger52 04-30-2013 13:19

Sarin <---> Pressure cooker

One of these is a WMD.

Trapper John 04-30-2013 13:19

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Originally Posted by Brush Okie (Post 504522)
We have no business there. Let them kill each other without our input either way.

Disagree on that one. Syria is Iran's surrogate, with its strategic location, we can't let this one go bad! Resurrecting the Domino Theory here. JMO

afchic 04-30-2013 14:31

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Originally Posted by Trapper John (Post 504531)
Disagree on that one. Syria is Iran's surrogate, with its strategic location, we can't let this one go bad! Resurrecting the Domino Theory here. JMO

Are you willing to commit US lives for it? I'm not. Let them take care of their own problems.

PRB 04-30-2013 14:43

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Originally Posted by Trapper John (Post 504531)
Disagree on that one. Syria is Iran's surrogate, with its strategic location, we can't let this one go bad! Resurrecting the Domino Theory here. JMO

I think it will go bad regardless of outcome....he is an Iranian surrogate/player for political reasons only, not ideological ones...big dif. Syria is pred Sunni....playing with Shias is only expediancy ... the vacuum filler will be sunni rads not shia Iranians, no power base.

Trapper John 04-30-2013 14:49

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Originally Posted by afchic (Post 504538)
Are you willing to commit US lives for it? I'm not. Let them take care of their own problems.

It's only to get worse and more costly in every aspect. JMO It is not just "their" problem. I wish it were that simple. This can and will IMO, spill over to Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, not to mention Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Libya (already in process). Do you really think that we will not be drawn in when Turkey (NATO ally) or Israel are directly and overtly threatened? How are we going to respond with a Navy <300 warships? A gutted AF? A depleted Army? This is shaping up to look like a pre-WWII scenario IMO just a different time, different place, and different actors. Outcomes are predictable given the current course we are on.

Dusty 04-30-2013 14:57

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Originally Posted by Brush Okie (Post 504543)
Our only options there are bad and worse. I don't see one reason to spill American blood there. They will hate us no matter what who is in power.

Then he shouldn't have stuck his ass out over the cliff with the "red line" BS.
That guy's so embarassing, he makes my butt muscles scrunch up. He treats other countries like Eddie Haskell treated June Cleaver.

afchic 04-30-2013 15:04

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Originally Posted by Trapper John (Post 504542)
It's only to get worse and more costly in every aspect. JMO It is not just "their" problem. I wish it were that simple. This can and will IMO, spill over to Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, not to mention Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Libya (already in process). Do you really think that we will not be drawn in when Turkey (NATO ally) or Israel are directly and overtly threatened? How are we going to respond with a Navy <300 warships? A gutted AF? A depleted Army? This is shaping up to look like a pre-WWII scenario IMO just a different time, different place, and different actors. Outcomes are predictable given the current course we are on.

So what is your COA? We have a DoD that has been at war non-stop for 12 years. We have no hope of resetting our equipment anytime in the near future due to sequestration. We are cutting soldiers, airmen, seamen and marines from the ranks. So who do we send? How long will they be there, with what equipment. And oh by the way, with a citizenship who shows their support by putting magnetic ribbons on their cars. And oh by the way we are headed into another recession.

Trapper John 04-30-2013 15:05

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Originally Posted by Dusty (Post 504544)
Then he shouldn't have stuck his ass out over the cliff with the "red line" BS.
That guy's so embarassing, he makes my butt muscles scrunch up. He treats other countries like Eddie Haskell treated June Cleaver.

Great comparison :D


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