Why Obama's College Records Matter
 

Lots of red meat here...election year crowd will poo poo this - but has Obama's team actually opened the door for calls for a release of The One's conspicuously missing records?

Why Obama's College Records Matter

By Monte Kuligowski

American Thinker

July 18, 2012

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/...#ixzz20wIkVPIp

In context of the "mounting pressure" for Mitt Romney to provide more tax and employment records, a reporter recently asked White House Press Secretary Jay Carney whether President Obama would set an example in transparency and release some of his records that critics have asked for.

That question was fingernails on the chalkboard to Carney. "Is that from Donald Trump?" Carey sneered, and laughed -- this time conspicuously alone.

This time it was Carney's own boss who had recently opened the door by demanding that Romney be an "open book" on personal finances.

Carney responded with the audacious claim that Obama is an "open book" and has a record of "unprecedented transparency." And the sky is green, and the grass is blue. Carney also suggested that the question wasn't specific.

When the reporter got specific and asked if Obama would release his college records, Carney replied: "Right, this is the Donald Trump question. It is preposterous. This is from the guy who insisted he didn't believe the president was born in the United States."

Asking for college records is preposterous?

Writing for the TheBlaze.com, Jason Howerton suggests:

Carney was obviously trying to lump those who are interested to see what types of college courses Obama took in college into the same category as 'birthers.' However, many who want to see the president's college transcripts say wanting to see the president's transcripts has nothing to do with his citizenship. Rather they argue it could help provide insight into the types of courses Obama sought out while in college, which some believe promoted radical ideologies.

Yes, many want to see Obama's college records for grades and courses (as with G.W. Bush and others). But in Obama's case, the primary reason to see his college applications is to learn whether the president applied for college in the U.S. as a foreign student.

Why should the public want to confirm that Obama did not register as a foreigner while not having the same concern for other candidates? Read on.

Most of the basic records of Barack Obama's past -- vital, hospital, medical, education, passport, draft registration, et al. -- are guarded as securely as the gold at Fort Knox. Notably, two documents -- elementary school and Selective Service registrations -- were obtained by independent citizens. And Breitbart.com independently obtained an interesting biographical brochure produced in 1991 by Obama's literary publicist.

The Associated Press (AP) was able to obtain a copy of Obama's elementary school registration from the Fransiskus Assisi School in Jakarta, Indonesia in 2007.

And Stephen Coffman, a retired Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent, obtained a copy of Obama's Selective Service registration form via a FOIA request just days prior to the 2008 election.

From the 2012 Breitbart discovery we learned that Mr. Obama presented himself in 1991 as "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii." From the AP discovery we learned that Barack Obama was registered for school in Jakarta as a citizen of Indonesia named Barry Soetoro. And from the Selective Service registration form we learned that the same form had been forged.

Barack Obama lived in Islamic Indonesia as Barry Soetoro with his mother and stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, and attended school in Jakarta from ages 6 to 10. It's beyond amazing that the general public is not aware of that fact. Last Thanksgiving I was with my in-laws and was surprised to learn that they had never heard that Obama lived in Indonesia as Barry Soetoro. And they are not uneducated people.

The "mainstream" media do not want to touch those facts.

The big question is whether little Barry was adopted by his stepfather, who was a citizen of Indonesia. There is reason to believe that he was and that in order to have been enrolled in public school in Indonesia, Barry had to be a citizen. Aaron Klein of WND.com notes that "[a]fter attending the Assisi Primary School, Obama later was enrolled at SDN Menteng 1, an Indonesian public school."

That Obama might have been a citizen of Indonesia and later presented himself as a foreign student in the U.S. is no "birther" conspiracy theory. It's the gravamen of the college records question.

Let's stop right here and stipulate for the sake of argument that Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.

But even with the stipulation, we nevertheless have a major problem with Obama's records and staunch secrecy.

Of the few records that we have seen relating to Obama's past all are problematic and they point to a potential citizenship problem for Barack Hussein Obama II aka Barry Soetoro.

Mr. Obama's Arizona nemesis, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, is readily dismissed by the establishment press as a man with an ax to grind -- but his control-test findings have not been disproven.

Once again, the general public remains in the dark because the national one-voice media will not touch the story.

Sherriff Joe's law enforcement "posse" confirmed what a multitude of nonpartisan computer graphic experts have already known. The image Mr. Obama "released" on April 27, 2011 is a computer-generated forgery. Irrespective of Mr. Obama's Hawaii birth, for some reason Obama did not upload a certified copy of his birth certificate to the internet; neither is he allowing Hawaii to send certified paper copies to interested state election officials.

Since Obama was born in Hawaii, the question is: why the forgery? And why the continued secrecy?

Something is not right. I have speculated that Obama's secrecy over the birth certificate may have been a calculated diversion from the important constitutional requirement for presidential candidates to have been born with a natural, sole allegiance to the United States.

That could be partially correct. Additionally, Obama might be hiding an amendment to his birth certificate, reflecting his adoption by Lolo Soetoro.

Others have suggested that the reason for the forgery could be over a petty issue, such as his mother having signed the certificate with her maiden name. In other words, but for the secrecy and forgery, the birth certificate may be completely irrelevant.

Nevertheless, if Obama has a citizenship problem because of Indonesia, the rest of the oddities and secrecies begin to make sense.

Sheriff Joe's team found probable cause to conclude that Obama also forged his Selective Service registration form. The mismatched date stamp "80" instead of "1980" is evidence not only of forgery, but of a crude forgery.

Then there is the question of why is Obama using a Social Security number issued on application from Connecticut, a state in which he never lived.

If that's not a news story, what is? Romney's tax records?

In light of the few biographical documents we have seen so far, coupled with the bizarre secrecy of Obama, it might be a good idea for "pressure to mount" for Obama to produce his college records.

And while we're at it, what passport did Obama use for his college break to Islamic Pakistan in 1981?

Since Obama is an "open book," producing informative records shouldn't be a problem for him.

Romney prolly will not release his tax records, and Obama's crew prolly knows that.

Obama's actions are those of a man with nothing to lose; he's just gonna get more and more radical as we get closer to Romneyfication, and he does not give a flyin' f.ck about quid pro quo.

I would love to be in the media pit and verbally blast that dipshit. I'd get one shot as would most reporters. You rock the boat, you are ousted and not allowed back in.

But, if it were Bush, you could rock away like an overactive ADD person in the corner with nothing to do.

http://mrctv.org/videos/obama-2009-i...rm-proposition

I say hold him to his statement. Of course, like most politicians, he likely misspoke, we aren't as smart as them and cannot ascertain what they truly meant and so on. :rolleyes:

Leverage to get back on the issues
 

If the calls for the release of certain documents by one side is a side show - is not the call from the other, also a side show?

Either, both sides fully disclose - simultaneously - or both sides STFU w/r/t the side show and get on to the issues.

Edited by Richard - RE Post #7: Since opinions are like...ummm...well, the incumbent 'Leader of the Free world', I've reconsidered my position and have removed my earlier post out of respect for the Office of the President of the US.

However, YMMV...and so it goes...

Richard :munchin

What a bad forgery. Everyone knows he was with the Navy's tier one unit when he took out Bin Laden.:D

It matters
 

Of course records matter as do tax returns. Transparency is key to gaining political trust. That being said I am shocked at the way the President of the United States of America is being called an asshole. Where are the professionals? Like him or not there should still be some level of respect to the President of our nation. Some in here sound a bit like the Dixie Chicks. It would be nice to find some that have logic and accurate information to go on and not rants.

You signed up.......
 

You signed up just to say that or do you plan on contributing?

wow... great way to start on the site. :rolleyes:

An outsiders concern
 

What really concerns me about this whole "records" business, is not that there is a possibility that your President is a liar and a cheat. Every country suffers from those types of politicians. Perhaps it is Americas turn to suffer with one. No, what bothers me most is the complete disinterest of the media in investigating this.
As we all know, the media is full of out-sized egos, many of whom will sell their souls for a big story, no matter how harmful it may be to the nation. Why has there been nothing from the real investigative papers? Not one Pulitzer chasing journalist willing to risk all for fame. This "control" over the media is much more of an issue that a bent politician.

Obama's "background" according to Pelosi..."...we have to re-elect the president to find out what's in there..."

These are truly sad times - Canadians surpass us in wealth - we have a incompetent in the WH - and an AZ sheriff has to do the work that the press won't do.

Atauro1--

The current president's birth and background have been topics of ongoing debate on this BB for several years. Some say that he's hiding things because he's not who he says. (Where there's smoke, there's fire.) Others say he's hiding things to exploit the controversy to his own political advantage. (Where there's smoke, there are mirrors.)

The fact that the president refuses to take the appropriate steps to resolve this controversy speaks volumes IRT his commitment to transparency, open government, and accountability. His refusal also speaks to his respect for American citizens (especially his supporters) and to the American political process.

Notwithstanding my own personal distaste for the president, I do agree that the tone of criticism directed at the president is detrimental to American political life. Even so, it seems to me that the man has deliberately fostered the dynamic of disrespect because of his ongoing lack of respect for the concerns of many American citizens.

As a trained interrogator, I know why you keep reiterating your "distaste".

You're not the only duplicitous character on this BB, either, Mr. Sigaba...;)

Dusty--

Just because I don't jump through your ideological hoops or meet your requirements for political correctness doesn't mean that I'm being duplicitous.

It simply means that I have a different set of criteria for evaluating the current president.

Any GOOD Professional Soldier will always tell you what he thinks you NEED to hear rather than what he thinks you WANT to hear. :)