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SF18C 02-13-2012 20:14

War by Executive Order
 
So who is kitting up for Iran?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f23uQr7TIMo

cat in the hat 02-13-2012 20:22

I'll go.

I got a couple of A CO boys here in Utah running through SFAUC and they are doing pretty well.

Richard 02-13-2012 20:33

Meh...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...ian-financial-

I saw the same kinda EO issued against Libya under Reagan back when and we used to chuckle whenever we went to Dobbins and saw the bought and paid for Libyan C-130s in desert camouflage sitting out there in the sun deteriorating because the EO, along with its other provisions, had blocked their delivery...:D

And so it goes...

Richard :munchin

SF18C 02-13-2012 21:02

So I am not the geo-political mastermind so I will admit up front I am not really sure where this is headed. But I think the root cause is the fact Iran is willing to accept gold for oil and NOT the US$. Several countries...India, China, Russia to name a few, are ready to dump the $ as the international trading currency, which has been theorized would throw our crappy economy straight down the shitter, as our paper dollar would be worthless in the global economy…made even worse due to the non-stop printing by the Fed over the last 3 or 4 years.

Obama knows this and is now trying to find a way to stop other nations from buying Iran’s oil with gold (and dumping the Dollar) by using this order, declaring a national emergency and directing all Federal Agencies to join in. So is this how WWIII starts?

Someone help me understand this.

Richard 02-13-2012 21:14

And...? Iran is a crude oil exporter and refined petroleum importer - just something else to consider. ;)

Richard

SF18C 02-13-2012 21:19

Richard, I got that part, but money still changes hands at each end of the transaction.

Maybe I am starting to feel a little Ron Paul-ish! Either that or it might be time for Texas to secede!

But can anyone tell me - where did all those ultra-libs & hippies go that were calling a Bush II a fascist neo-con?

Richard 02-13-2012 21:28

IMO - Iran is but a Norma Desmond within the international community's social register...

Richard :munchin

BOfH 02-13-2012 21:51

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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 434963)
And...? Iran is a crude oil exporter and refined petroleum importer - just something else to consider. ;)

Richard

Thats one more piece of the puzzle. Iran wants a bigger piece of the oil profits pie[1][2], and of course the Saudis don't want to give it up. Iran sells cheap crude to Russia, China[3], and Japan[4], and buys refined product(s) in return, cutting the Saudis out of the loop entirely, all while still making some profit in light of the embargo; over time this will cut into Suadi oil profits. This puts the current administration in very tough position as the Saudis will either increase price, triggering deeper economic woes, or increase pressure for higher demand, which is completely against Obama's radical environmental policies.

IMHO: This might also explain part of his reasoning on the Keystone XL veto, demand for Saudi oil needs to stay constant for him to attempt reelection, by keeping the economy and the radical environmentalists happy for now...

[1]http://www.nasdaq.com/article/iran-fires-warning-at-saudi-arabia-over-oil-output-20120117-00333
[2]http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/considering-us-iranian-deal
[3]http://blogs.wsj.com/corruption-currents/2012/01/26/chinese-traders-poised-to-profit-from-iran-oil-embargo/
[4]http://news.yahoo.com/saudi-internal-matter-japan-buys-iran-oil-094219088.html

My .02, oh and coffee at Starbucks is still under $5...for now...

afchic 02-14-2012 06:15

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Originally Posted by SF18C (Post 434965)
Richard, I got that part, but money still changes hands at each end of the transaction.

Maybe I am starting to feel a little Ron Paul-ish! Either that or it might be time for Texas to secede!

But can anyone tell me - where did all those ultra-libs & hippies go that were calling a Bush II a fascist neo-con?

Into the Obama administration? :)

Ret10Echo 02-14-2012 06:50

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Originally Posted by SF18C (Post 434965)
But can anyone tell me - where did all those ultra-libs & hippies go that were calling a Bush II a fascist neo-con?

They were hired by the Administration

BOfH 02-14-2012 12:32

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Originally Posted by Brush Okie (Post 434981)
When I give my opinion the price goes up. :D

With that in mind do you think the Saudis are stirring trouble between the US and Iran under the table? IMHO the Saudis are not above playing both sides against each other but I am far from an expert. The scary part is with everyone playing their little games there and with oil being as important as it is one idiot in the mix or even one stupid decision and the place will light off like a sparkler on 4th of July.

I think my wallet just groaned :D

MOO: The Saudi's want their perceived threat from Iran neutralized, from oil profits to Sunni/Shia relations, Saudi Arabia is no friend of Teheran (well, except when it comes to destroying Israel, and us too I suppose). Geographically, they are too big for the Saudis(and Israel) to take on, hence the hot air and sabre rattling from both. I would not put it past them, but there is no real indication that they are, aside from their usual rhetoric of demanding that the US take action. In the short term, the embargo, if the EU follows through, will increase their profits; long term, cut rate Iranian crude is going to hurt their pocket(s). Time will tell...

ETA: This article is mostly on Syria and AQ in the region, however, IMHO it has a decent analysis of all the moving parts: http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/jihad...tunities-syria

Sigaba 02-14-2012 23:28

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Originally Posted by SF18C (Post 434965)
But can anyone tell me - where did all those ultra-libs & hippies go that were calling a Bush II a fascist neo-con?

As Red said to Smokie and Craig in regards to standing up to Deebo, But that was different.*








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18C4V 02-14-2012 23:33

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Originally Posted by cat in the hat (Post 434949)
I'll go.

I got a couple of A CO boys here in Utah running through SFAUC and they are doing pretty well.

ha ha......good to know, I'll tell thier Team Daddy.


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