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Dusty 08-08-2011 16:35

Pollster: Americans are Pre-Revolutionary
 
http://www.infowars.com/pollster-ame...revolutionary/

Amidst riots in central Europe that have now spread to London and a debt downgrade that threatens to plunge the United States into a double-dip recession, Americans’ lack of confidence in their leadership is so crippled that they are now “pre-revolutionary,” according to pollster Pat Caddell.

A new Rasmussen poll shows that just 17 per cent of Americans believe that the U.S. government has the consent of the governed, an all time low. This dovetails with a record low for Congress’ approval rating, which stands at a paltry 6 per cent, while 46 per cent of Americans think most members of Congress are corrupt, with just 29% believing otherwise.

“The number of voters who feel the government has the consent of the governed – a foundational principle, contained in the Declaration of Independence – is down from 23% in early May and has fallen to its lowest level measured yet,” according to Rasmussen.

The poll was conducted before Friday’s U.S. debt downgrade, indicating that the figures could be even more dire in the aftermath of what some analysts believe is a precursor to a new great depression.

The results of this survey indicate that Americans are now “pre-revolutionary” says pollster Pat Caddell, who described the outcome of the poll as “unprecedented”.

This conclusion follows Caddell’s observation last November that “a sea of anger is churning” amongst Americans who “want to take their country back” and that the nation stood on the brink of a “pre-revolutionary moment”.

A d v e r t i s e m e n t
Caddell’s conclusion that Americans are on the verge of rising up against a system in which they have lost all trust cannot be easily dismissed as partisan rhetoric. Despite working for numerous Democratic presidential candidates, including Jimmy Carter and Joe Biden, Caddell has been a vociferous critic of both Democrats and Republicans on several issues.

Back in early 2008, before the collapse of Lehman Brothers and the start of the financial crisis, we warned that inflation and economic uncertainty would cause a massive social dislocation, which would lead to riots globally. Gerald Celente and others repeated the warning in late 2008. Over the last 18 months, we have now witnessed such scenes across the Middle East and in France, Spain, Greece, Italy and most recently London.

Indeed, the only major western country not to experience significant social unrest since the economic collapse is America, although anecdotal evidence of rising crime and thefts suggests a turning point could be just around the corner.

Should violence plague American streets as a result of a deepening economic crisis, U.S. troops have already been prepared to deal with such a crisis.

As we reported three years ago, U.S. troops returning from Iraq were being re-allocated to occupy America, running checkpoints and training to deal with “civil unrest and crowd control” under the auspices of a Northcom program that revolved around deploying 20,000 active duty troops inside America to “help” state and local officials during times of emergency.

The date set for the completion of this program was 2011, just in time to deal with the “pre-revolutionary” fervor that many fear will now manifest itself in Greece-like mayhem as a result of the fallout from the debt downgrade and America’s slide towards economic collapse.

mojaveman 08-08-2011 16:55

If things keep getting worse it could very easily happen here and anyone who thinks it can't is naive and delusional. If and when it comes it's going to start in the poor inner city areas and spread elsewhere. Hope everyone is prepared...

casey 08-08-2011 17:44

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Originally Posted by mojaveman (Post 407836)
If things keep getting worse it could very easily happen here and anyone who thinks it can't is naive and delusional. If and when it comes it's going to start in the poor inner city areas and spread elsewhere. Hope everyone is prepared...

When it comes??? Anybody not believe most big cities are in some type of containment mode now?

greenberetTFS 08-08-2011 17:57

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Originally Posted by Dusty (Post 407830)
http://www.infowars.com/pollster-ame...revolutionary/

As we reported three years ago, U.S. troops returning from Iraq were being re-allocated to occupy America, running checkpoints and training to deal with “civil unrest and crowd control” under the auspices of a Northcom program that revolved around deploying 20,000 active duty troops inside America to “help” state and local officials during times of emergency.

Has anyone informed Janet Napolitano regarding the above?..........:eek:

Big Teddy :munchin

Paslode 08-08-2011 18:01

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Indeed, the only major western country not to experience significant social unrest since the economic collapse is America, although anecdotal evidence of rising crime and thefts suggests a turning point could be just around the corner.


Just theft? I believe you mean something like this?

Quote:

Kansas City police said several hundred youths showed up on the Plaza and some who were causing trouble were asked to leave the shopping and entertainment district. Many of them gathered in Mill Creek Park, where officers heard gunshots about 11:15 p.m.

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/07/25...#ixzz1UU7o9XD1
or this...

Witnesses' accounts claim everything from dozens to hundreds of young black people beating white people as they left State Fair Thursday night.




or this.....

McDonald's Employee Took Credit For Filming Brutal Beating In Baltimore Fast Food Joint



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Should violence plague American streets as a result of a deepening economic crisis, U.S. troops have already been prepared to deal with such a crisis.
Hmmmmm..if that is true...who's bidding will they do? Obama and his radical friends or the Constitution and the People?

Ret10Echo 08-08-2011 18:04

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Originally Posted by greenberetTFS (Post 407852)

Has anyone informed Janet Napolitano regarding the above?..........:eek:

Big Teddy :munchin

Not exactly a news flash

Quote:

DSCA. Support provided by U.S. Federal military forces, DoD civilians, DoD contract personnel, DoD Component assets, and National Guard forces (when the Secretary of Defense, in coordination with the Governors of the affected States, elects and requests to use those forces in title 32, U.S.C., status) in response to requests for assistance from civil authorities for domestic emergencies, law enforcement support, and other domestic activities, or from qualifying entities for special events. Also known as civil support.

Directive NUMBER 3025.18 December 29, 2010 here

cheewok 08-08-2011 18:50

Posse Comitatus
 
DOD would do well to pull up Posse Comitatus Act of 18 June 1878 after Reconstuction. As we all know, it specifically limits Army to Federal duties on Federal property. Navy/Marine Corps by DOD directive 1956 and Coast Guard exempt except if subsumed by the Navy as in WWII. At which point, that portion would lose Federal police power authority which they currently have as part of Homeland Security. Those uneducated to the Constitution, would not be considered assets if such a scenario, as has been eluded to, should continue to develope. Having been retired since '92 has given me a new view of our rudderless country. It has strayed way too far left and needs to be guided back on the proper path. An American path.

Five-O 08-08-2011 19:19

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Originally Posted by casey (Post 407847)
When it comes??? Anybody not believe most big cities are in some type of containment mode now?

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...iversity-city/


You mean something like this?

Team Sergeant 08-08-2011 19:46

All it's going to take is a spark to lite this candle.

casey 08-08-2011 20:07

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Originally Posted by Five-O (Post 407880)


100% under-reported. As we await our Bernard Hugo Goetz moments.........

The Reaper 08-08-2011 20:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheewok (Post 407873)
DOD would do well to pull up Posse Comitatus Act of 18 June 1878 after Reconstuction. As we all know, it specifically limits Army to Federal duties on Federal property. Navy/Marine Corps by DOD directive 1956 and Coast Guard exempt except if subsumed by the Navy as in WWII. At which point, that portion would lose Federal police power authority which they currently have as part of Homeland Security. Those uneducated to the Constitution, would not be considered assets if such a scenario, as has been eluded to, should continue to develope. Having been retired since '92 has given me a new view of our rudderless country. It has strayed way too far left and needs to be guided back on the proper path. An American path.

There are lots of laws being violated today.

The POTUS and AG believe, IMHO, that they are above the law.

TR

Paslode 08-08-2011 20:50

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Originally Posted by casey (Post 407888)
As we await our Bernard Hugo Goetz moments.........

Part of the Goetz Legacy as of 2004

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At the time, there were 15,000 felonies a year on average in the subway — more than 40 every day around the nation's largest mass transit system. Twenty years later, there were just 2,760 felonies reported through Nov. 14 — barely eight per day. Murders in the subways, which topped out at 26 in 1990, are at zero for the year.

Subway ridership is at about 4.5 million riders daily; back then, the number of straphangers was in freefall, with one out of every four passengers abandoning the subways between 1965 and 1982. In 1984, ridership was at about 2.7 million per day.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...16-goetz_x.htm

Penn 08-09-2011 03:16

I spend a great deal of time in University City and the adjointing mapped area, it should be note that this is the wealth belt of Philadelphia. It is surround by marginally livable neighborhoods that are tinderboxes ready to explode. One best be prepared, most are not.

Sigaba 08-09-2011 05:04

FWIW, the write up of the poll is available here.

I'd find Mr. Caddell's analysis more compelling if he had provided a definition of what constitutions "pre-Revolutionary." (As the blog post in the OP makes a reference to Eastern Europe, this is not an off the cuff question.)

I would also find his analysis more insightful if the data being analyzed included information on Americans' views towards the federal government beyond congress and the major political parties. What about data on how Americans view state and municipal governments, the importance of elections and the reliability of their results, concepts such as the rule of law, trust (public and private), justice (however one wants to define that term), data about basic social services at state, county and municipal levels, the reliability and affordability of public transportation, utilities, and basic foodstuffs? What about data on topics trending heavily on various social media websites, significant upswings in the popularity of 'radical' media, trends in political satire, and the types of pr0nography Americans are watching. (Pr0n that satirized nobles and politicians spiked dramatically in the years leading up to the French Revolution).

My $0.02.

Pete 08-09-2011 06:04

Interesting
 
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Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 407920)
......... What about data on how Americans view state and municipal governments, the importance of elections and the reliability of their results, concepts such as the rule of law, trust (public and private), justice (however one wants to define that term), data about basic social services at state, county and municipal levels, the reliability and affordability of public transportation, utilities, and basic foodstuffs? ..................


I find that interesting in that in getting out and talking to some people I am surprised now and then.

I was talking to a local "conservative" about bus service. I was complaining about the cost of running bus service out to the newly annexed parts of the city. I was like "If people need bus service they should move and live near areas that have bus service". He was like "But Bus service is a basic city service" and I replied "What did they do for transportation before they were annexed?".

Services cost money ..............

I think everyone wants cuts - but just not in anything they use.


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