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sinjefe 07-19-2011 17:54

Open Carry Idiot
 
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=176_1310452930

Got this from Army Ranger.com. This is why cops have issues with open carry.

Tress 07-19-2011 18:14

Cabin Fever??????
 
Maybe he was suffering from cabin fever. The snow was piled quite high on the streets. I guess Houghton, MI had a normal winter. But yes, he is just giving the left-wing anti-gun nuts additional fodder for their bitching.

Tress

tonyz 07-19-2011 18:16

IMO, that obnoxious gun owner is one example of what damages the image of other gun owners - in the eyes of some law enforcement and the anti-gun crowd.

He did us no favors in that interaction. I realize that the open carry issue is a contentious one and that others may have a different take on the situation.

rdret1 07-19-2011 18:22

That guy is an ASS. He obviously only does it to get a reaction. As soon as he started talking I wanted to smack him upside the head.

uplink5 07-19-2011 19:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdret1 (Post 404626)
That guy is an ASS. He obviously only does it to get a reaction. As soon as he started talking I wanted to smack him upside the head.

What a tool! The officer handled that well. This guy was obviously seeking another reaction which could have varied upon a confrontational escalation with police or anyone else.

monsterhunter 07-19-2011 22:03

I've only run into one "open carry" individual, but it's getting more common. Fortunately, the guy I ran into was very passive. He had a Glock 9mm in a Serpa holster and was getting a foot massage. We made a careful approach, inspected is weapon, and were on our way.

I've always been split on my feelings about individual rights. I support folks exercising their rights, but we also have those walking into schools with AK's for a very different reason. It sucks for us, because most often you have no idea which type of person you are dealing with. Is it the guy making a statement or is he going to swing the muzzle around on you? You never know until you get there, but one thing is for sure, we can't wait until they get to their destination to find out what their intentions are.

I sure don't have all the answers, but we will always respond when called. It really doesn't help when the guy is an ass.

Texas_Shooter 07-19-2011 23:56

ROTFL. The second cop knew him by name. That is hilarious.

akv 07-20-2011 00:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdet1
That guy is an ASS. He obviously only does it to get a reaction. As soon as he started talking I wanted to smack him upside the head.

Yes, I felt the same, the officers were professional and courteous.

ddoering 07-20-2011 05:20

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Originally Posted by monsterhunter (Post 404673)

I've always been split on my feelings about individual rights.

How so? I support the rights of individuals as outlined in the Constitution. The fact that they know him and continue to stop him is harassment. And yes, he is an ass too.

Blue 07-20-2011 05:32

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Originally Posted by ddoering (Post 404691)
How so? I support the rights of individuals as outlined in the Constitution. The fact that they know him and continue to stop him is harassment. And yes, he is an ass too.

How is it harassment when they're responding due to calls from the public? It's not like police get to pick and choose which calls they're going to respond to, and there's no telling what the complaints consist of--"he's waving it around", etc.

And that dude is a drama queen, he couldn't be any whinier if he tried.

Pete 07-20-2011 05:34

"..........You're the only one we get calls on............"
 
"............you're the only one we get calls on..........." ".......we figured it was you......." "..........Yeah, I will lecture you........"

Everybody thinks he's as ass but from the comments the LEOs made I'm pretty sure both sides have a long history of interaction.

And from that long history I can see why he was filming his walk.

So does being a Dick change his rights?

ddoering 07-20-2011 06:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete (Post 404694)
"............you're the only one we get calls on..........." ".......we figured it was you......." "..........Yeah, I will lecture you........"

Everybody thinks he's as ass but from the comments the LEOs made I'm pretty sure both sides have a long history of interaction.

And from that long history I can see why he was filming his walk.

So does being a Dick change his rights?

Actually, the Constitution protects your right to be a dick. If not then while has the ACLU lasted so long?

ddoering 07-20-2011 06:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue (Post 404693)
How is it harassment when they're responding due to calls from the public? It's not like police get to pick and choose which calls they're going to respond to, and there's no telling what the complaints consist of--"he's waving it around", etc.

And that dude is a drama queen, he couldn't be any whinier if he tried.

The have a long history with him. They know his agenda and are only feeding into it. Like I said, he is a ass but the cops, as tools of government are just as bad as he is. If they ignored him, (unless he does something illegal) then he would become a non-issue in short order. Personally, I think carrying a gun should be a requirement of all adults. Sure, in the short term there would be a period of extreme Darwinism, but after the rest get a clue society would be a much more polite place. Bottom line is that we can't pick and choose which Constitutional rights we support and which ones we don't. After all, if we are doing that to others then someone is probably doing it to us.

monsterhunter 07-21-2011 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddoering (Post 404691)
How so? I support the rights of individuals as outlined in the Constitution. The fact that they know him and continue to stop him is harassment. And yes, he is an ass too.

I agree he has the right in that state to do what he is doing. If they have dealt with him on so many occasions, perhaps they should just clear the call out as the local gun nut making a statement and keep driving.

I also hate to see the innocent gun owner's suffer because some other ass somewhere is doing something stupid with his gun. You have the right to open carry in California, but it can't be a loaded gun in a public place. State law gives us the authority to inspect the weapon. I don't like to interrupt the good citizen exercising his rights, but we have to check and make sure those are the intentions he has when he is carrying. Some of the other idiots out here are actually looking to use it in a fight. If the bad guys would just glow red so we could leave the others alone, that would be just great. Perhaps where I'm split is the uncomfortable feeling between stepping on someone's innocent right to carry vs. allowing the wrong person to continue on his way with a gun. I guess these guys in the video had it better because they knew him.


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