Jogger Stands His Ground against Attacker
 

Too bad this guy wasn't in Tuscon:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/12...shooting-teen/

I'm not saying that anybody was wrong here, but 8 shots seems to be an awfully strong response to being punched in the face.

Let's say you are 6'5", and weigh 260, and I am 5'5" and 65 years old. You attack me while I am jogging at night and say that you are going to kill me.

How many times do you think I should legally be required to let you hit me in the head before I am allowed to draw my weapon and defend myself?

Kind Sir, may I do so before I lose consciousness, and my gun?

When I shoot, I use as many rounds as necessary to neutralize the threat. Some situations may only require one round, and some might require a mag or two. How many do you think is appropriate? One? Two? Six?

You seem to be lacking a basic knowledge of lethal force application. I think that based on the report, the actions were reasonable and consistent with his right to self defense.

TR

Maybe - if you're at a frat party......
 

Maybe - if you're at a frat party - drunk and are playing slap face with other drunks.

Jumping out on someone minding their own busines and punching them in the face as a first step to ............. what? I think the punk got what was coming.

What if it was your 17 year old daughter and he was just going to knock her out, drag her to some out of the way place and rape her?

I know of a person who was struck once to the side of his head, fell to the ground, hit his head on the curb, and never got up!

Once is too many! Blast away, sir!

Yes, you are.

And a "strong response" is exactly what is ALWAYS necessary when the decision is made to utilize your firearm for personal defense.
You do not shoot to warn, nor shoot to wound. You discharge your weapon until you are satisfied that they are no longer a threat.

Basic rules of firearm use...only point your weapon at something you are willing to destroy.

Eagle

Personally, I think the state of Florida should make the deceased's parents pay to replace the shooter's ammunition...

They do that in China for executions.

It's midnight, you are assaulted by an unknown assailant, you shoot to kill, to save your life.....is he armed, you don't know but at that hour what does one assume.

If someone unknown to me and for no reason punches me in the face I assume the worst and kill them. You kill them beyond a shadow of a doubt, reload a fresh clip, clear 360 then call 911....practice that and do not think in terms of 'measured response' ....measured response gets one dead quickly.

Probably has a sloppy re-load. He's alive, he can work on it.

Silentreader,
I see that you are about to ship out for basic training. Outstanding.

Keep one thing in mind, if you ever have to use your weapon. People don't always realize that they are supposed to fall down and die, just because you put a bullet in them. The phrase used when I was in the service was "Drive 'em down", meaning keep pulling the damned trigger until you were sure Mr. Bad Guy was down and unable to hurt you or your fellow soldiers.

Not at all excessive. Have to wonder which 4 missed their target - first 4? A good reminder of why it's nice to have decent clip capacity. Similar circumstances but with two assailants could have had a very different outcome.

Glad to see Mr. Baker's rights upheld.

-out

Gentlemen,

First of all, good points. The decision to draw and shoot a gun at a human should always be a decision to kill, and the jogger was completely justified in making that decision upon being punched in the face.

Here's an article with a little more detail. You guys were spot on; he assumed his assailant was armed, he cleared 360 (covers the other kid while he ran away) and he called the police. The prosecutor was right to let this kid off without punishment.

I guess law-abiding citizens will NO longer have too worry about this guy robbing them in the future.

Lesson learned for/by future thugs: "Don't go around punching and attempting too rob people jogging at night, you just might get more than you bargained for!"

Stay safe.

Wonder what he was using for a holster? Might be something useful there. :munchin