Illinois prison to get GITMO detainees.
 

I can't see this being a good thing. Who wants to field the joke about Obama bringing them home to Chicago?

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WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama has directed the federal government to buy the near-empty state prison in rural Thomson, Ill., to house federal inmates and up to 100 detainees from the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, officials said late Monday.

The official announcement is planned for Tuesday and follows weeks of consideration of the Thomson Correctional Center as a site for Guantanamo detainees.

The decision is part of a complicated plan for shutting down the controversial Guantanamo detention center, a lightning rod for anti-American sentiment around the world as a result of what critics say were detainee abuses there during the Bush administration.

Obama ordered the shutdown of the detention center as one of his first acts after inauguration in January.

But closing it has proved to be a cumbersome matter, largely because of the difficulty of finding other places to hold the terrorism suspects.

Illinois and local officials suggested the near-vacant Thomson prison, near the Mississippi River and the Iowa state line. Construction on the prison started in the 1990s and was completed in 2001.

The U.S. is already in the process of sending detainees to their home countries and to third countries on what aides call a "rolling basis" throughout this year. U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder recently announced prosecutions in federal courts and military commissions that will begin soon.

The Thomson prison could house 35 to 90 of the Guantanamo detainees, said one source familiar with the discussions.

Toward that end, Obama has directed that the federal government proceed with the acquisition of the Thomson prison center, an administration official said late Monday. The official said the prison would be used to house federal inmates as well as "a limited number of detainees" from Guantanamo Bay.

"Closing the detention center at Guantanamo is essential to protecting our national security and helping our troops by removing a deadly recruiting tool from the hands of al-Qaida," the administration official said.

The announcement on Tuesday "is an important step forward as we work to achieve our national security objectives," the official said.

U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin and Gov. Pat Quinn are scheduled to be in Washington on Tuesday afternoon to be briefed on the decision by administration officials at the White House. Democrats, Durbin and Quinn have been major promoters of the project.

To operate the prison, administration officials have estimated some 3,800 jobs would be created in and around Thomson.

The plan for Thomson has been under consideration for weeks, as first reported by the Tribune's Washington bureau. Over the weekend, administration officials said they were closing in on the Thomson prison as a leading candidate for Guantanamo inmates, but that they hadn't made a final determination.

In previous discussions, aides said the federal government would operate the Thomson site as a prison for its highest-risk inmates, and also turn over a portion to the Department of Defense to take transferees from the U.S. military prison in Cuba.

The administration has also considered the possibility of operating a military tribunal at or near the prison, where the government would try combatants charged with acts of terrorism.

The Thomson site could become the sole location for what the administration calls "long-term detainees," those suspects who will remain in custody but who are not likely to stand trial.

State Sen. Jeff Schoenberg, D-Evanston, who is co-chairing a state panel that will hold a hearing on the issue, said word from the White House is "consistent with everything that I've been led to expect."

"All the signs have pointed toward the Obama administration selecting Thomson as the site," Schoenberg said.

Schoenberg noted that multiple communities have weighed in with resolutions supporting Thomson's effort to become a federal prison.

"For those who live in that job-starved portion of the state, this is undoubtedly very welcome news," Schoenberg said. "Even the most conservative estimates of the economic impact that this would have are considerable."

A hearing on the Thomson prison is set for Dec. 22 in nearby Sterling before a bipartisan legislative panel, the Commission on Government Forecasting and Accountability. The commission will make a recommendation that the Quinn administration can accept or reject on whether to close the prison, which has never been used to its capacity.

The Quinn administration has said that lawmakers do not need to pass legislation for the sale to take place. After the recommendation from the panel, the Quinn administration can sell the prison under the state's surplus property act.

But Republicans have questioned whether the prison can be declared surplus or sold without further action, and they have asked Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan for an opinion on the matter. A Madigan spokeswoman said the office has yet to respond.

Another member of the state legislative panel, State Sen. Dave Syverson, R-Rockford, said late Monday that he has many questions about the deal and "just because the federal government says they want to buy it does not mean, as a state, we want to sell it."

A purchase price has not yet been fully negotiated, according to a source knowledgeable about the discussions.

"At a minimum, we've got to get $80 million to pay off the mortgage and at least $200 million to pay for a replacement facility," said Syverson, who has not taken a position on the sale. "If we're not talking something north of $300 million, we would be cutting ourselves short," Syverson said.

State Sen. Bill Brady, a Bloomington Republican running for governor and a member of the legislative panel, said the president's early commitment for Thomson "just seems wrong."

"The president understands that we've got rules in this state. We've got to go through a hearing process," Brady said. "My personal opinion is that international terrorists ought to continue to be housed in Cuba."

I don't see this being all bad for Illinois, Michigan lobbied hard to get them.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/08/12/git...gan/index.html

Back before they had decided where the Detainees were to be sent there was a lot of excitement in Michigan. I know a lot of people in the area and things are pretty desperate for a lot of good people.

The Foxs news Ticker said something like : Thomson Corr. Facility to TEMPORARILY (inclines VISITING) House 10 GITMO Detainees.

Then the federal government may not look to buy:

I tend to believe it will be a long visit, and their friends won't be be too far behind ;)

Well...Illinois prisons do have a lot of experience providing court ordered accomodations for political prisoners - especially those who have held some form of public office in Illinois. ;)

And so it goes...

Richard's $.02 :munchin

What the hell are they thinking?
 

Two quotes from the article:

Quote:

To operate the prison, administration officials have estimated some 3,800 jobs would be created in and around Thomson.

and

Quote:

The Thomson prison could house 35 to 90 of the Guantanamo detainees, said one source familiar with the discussions.

3,800 employees for 35 inmates = 108 employees per inmate!?
3,800 employees for 90 inmates = 42 employees per inmate!?

So let's do a little "back of the envelope" math:

Assume a bare minimum $20,000 per year average annual salary per employee.

3,800 employees at $20,000 per year is $76 million dollars per year in payroll alone.

Add electricity, water, food, clothing, etc. and it is obvious (except to Congress) that the
plan contemplates spending over $1 million dollars per year per terrorist.

Using Tax Year 2007 figures (the last year for which complete figures are available):

141 million Americans filed and paid income tax.

The total amount of individual income tax paid by those 141 million filers was
1.115 trillion dollars ($1,115,504,000,000), yielding an average income tax paid by each filer of $7,900.

It takes the total income tax paid by 126 Americans to produce $1 million in revenue.

It will take the total income tax of 11,340 Americans to house the terrorists (whether they number
90 or 35) for one year.

It's the new "O" math system

Not just "O" math...Stimul"O"s job math. We're creating millions of jobs every day.

In and AROUND Thompson.
Guards got to eat at McDonald's but sometimes Steak and Shake and occasionally, Bennigans.
Guards and waitresses need gas at the local station
Guards, waitresses and gas station attendants need homes so builders need carpenters
Homeowners and renters look a the their kitchens and say "To hell with McDonald's tonight we'll cook." -- then go the the local Piggliy Wiggly for steak and beer (I laughed my ass off the first time I saw a Piggliy Wiggliy -- cuz prison jobs pay pretty good)
It's Macro-Economics 101 baby!:D

I would assume the article only refers to the number of potential Gitmo prisoners due to the article's focus on that topic - I would have to assume that it would also be used to house a far greater number of regular old born and bred in the US of A federally convicted felons once it is opened to the general public.

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Quite possible. It would be nice if information like that would be included in the article {glances over to 'history/journalism' thread}.

So, my next assumption is that not only will our born and bred felons be with them, but their will be no gen. pop. at this prison, which to me sucks.

I went years ago with my Platoon SGT to a prison in LA, where he was giving a speach, sort of a scared straight thing. When he was done speaking, their were "Good American" felons cheering for all of us present.

That being said, maybe there could be "Good Americans" there with them with nothing else to lose.

Thought there was a big fuss on the News.. 20/20 or maybe 60 min a while back and I believe I saw something on here about a prison built in Montana that could be used. I might have my facts wrong.