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Losing Afghanistan?
This week's issue of The Economist leads with three stories on the war in Afghanistan. The first is below. The source is here. The second article presents an over view. It is lengthy and available here. The third article focuses on American public opinion and is available here. The newspaper's digital archive of articles on Afghanistan is available here.
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I do not think that the author has a good understanding of COIN, or Afghanistan.
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Democracy In Afghanistan Is Wishful Thinking
These guys seem pretty informed about the situation.
Thomas H. Johnson is a research professor at the Department of National Security Affairs and director of the Program for Culture and Conflict Studies at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, Calif. M. Chris Mason is a retired foreign service officer who served in 2005 as a political officer on the provincial reconstruction team in Afghanistan's Paktika Province. He's currently a senior fellow at the Program for Culture and Conflict Studies and at the Center for Advanced Defense Studies in Washington. Richard's $.02 :munchin Quote:
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I wonder - is the problem COIN (about which I know absolutely nothing), or something else?
The West is spending a fortune in aid to Afghanistan. White House to Boost 10-Year Deficit Forecast to $9 Trillion . Long-term projections for Social Security I suspect that we simply will not allocate sufficient money over enough time to win the war. |
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Richard's $.02 :munchin |
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Richard: I think the question now is wether a "win" is at all possible, and to what extent we should now seek an honourable exit? What is the current definition of a "win" in Afghan, anyways?
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I've read Kipling - and so it goes...;) Richard's $.02 :munchin * To Be Determined |
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I was/am a Bush voter and supporter, but his administration and specifically Rumsfeld did not appear to have a coherent long term strategy on Afghanistan, and while it looked like they were just trying to muddle through, I fear that our current administrations weakness will show through by seeking the easy wrong solution rather than the hard right. |
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But my thinking is based on VP Cheney's observation that the war against terrorism was a generational war. And, too, in the discussions I see a timeframe of 10-20 years of consistent effort seems to be accepted as a requirement for some form of winning. Truly changing behaviors and attitudes such that the Taliban couldn't come back seems likely to take a decade at least. So...is "nation building", and by implication extensive aid, both military and economic, a requirement for victory? I don't know, of course, buy my guess is that some would be necessary. And, too, there is the cost of maintaining a presence at that difference; its my understanding that logistics is an important issue in any operation. Putting that together, it seems as if the U.S. economy could be an important (but, of course, not the only) factor. Sending aid abroad when domestic needs are unmet seems likely to annoy the voters. From this comes my view that economics may add pressure on the U.S. to abandon the effort, or to reduce the effort such that it cannot succeed. However, I tend to look through the money lens too much, so I may be blind to important issues. Perhaps someone can provide additional light? ;) |
To paraphrase Slick Willie, "Define win". ;)
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Policymakers, conventional-minded military leadership, and the average voting citizen struggle with the messiness of this concept - a concept the SF soldier (vs merely SOF doorkickers) understands and is willing to commit himself to for as long as it takes or for as long as those who make policy decide it is worth our effort. This is the primary mission of SF and what sets it aside - doctrinally speaking - from the other SOF and all those who seek to periodically dabble in UWs dank cauldron during those fleeting times when it is seen as being either fashionable or favorable to do so. Sometimes the issue is decided when it is OBE - which can be relatively good (ElSal) or not so good (Rhodesia) - as its effectiveness can only be judged in hindsight through the seldom clear lens of history's worn reading glass - and sometimes it is decided more expediently, based upon the perceived greater weightiness of criteria such as you've mentioned. MOO - but as far as Aghanistan, SWA, or the broader GWOT goes - it will eventually be decided - but when and how and by whom is - as yet - TBD - an inexact concept with which people on all sides of the matter will continue to struggle. However, I suggest everyone stay tuned - for it will certainly not be merely a spectator's sport for any of us no matter how it plays out. And so it goes...;) Richard's $.02 :munchin |
U.S. Military Says Its Force in Afghanistan Is Insufficient
Source is here.
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Thank you very much, Richard.
It's a fascinating subject, and I appreciate the light you shed on the matter. |
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