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"I Stabbed the Slut" - Khaled Ibrahim Mohamed Ellaimouny
Apparently, it is the victim's fault she was stabbed. Had she not posed for 'racy photos', her Egyptian stepfather would have not attempted to kill her.
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It's the religion of Peace, really, give it a chance, really
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Historically - such manipulated fundamentalist behavior is a world-wide zaniness to which no single group or culture - whether polytheistic or monotheistic - has ever held a monopoly.
Richard's $.02 :munchin |
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I'm fairly certain the inquisitions of the western religions ceased a few hundred years ago. Its been a long time since I've heard of any witch burnings or public stonings by any other religion/culture, just islam..... |
To me the islam faith is frightening in our country......:mad: The "peace loving" islamists,which is supposed to be the majority say nothing,nothing at all about the extremists that are making headlines.......:mad: If we consider to do nothing about what's been happening in our country by these extremists,whose numbers are rapidly growing,then we deserve what will eventually will develope.....:mad: Christianity will be replaced by the muslim religion........This is not a rant,but a fact.............
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What a POS! Religon of Peace, my A**!!! That is all I can say in polite company! Holly |
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Of those who profess faith in the world, Christians = 33% and Muslims = 21% - and current world/religious growth trends indicate that it will take > 100 yrs for the Muslim population to double. http://www.geocities.com/richleebruce/b/islam.html Quote:
FWIW - I'm not saying there aren't serious issues - I'm just not entirely sure the issues being presented are as irrefutably dire as portrayed by those needing to sensationalize them for profit and job security - but maybe that's what growing up listening to the imminent threat of Nuclear Winter, the inevitable invasion by the 3rd Horde Guards Army, and the claims of the End of History and irrefutable future effects of global climate change has done to me. YMsMV - but I remain skeptical and cautiously optimistic about it all. ;) Richard's $.02 :munchin |
Problem with line of thinking
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The press is doing all it can to supress Islam's relationship with crimes in this country. The "right" has noticed this and is passing around what the MSM refuses to notice. The "normal" student here in NC who was just driving his SUV and decided to take out a bunch of his fellow students for Islam? These things are starting to add up and come quicker and quicker. |
The only good _____ is a dead _____? :eek: :confused:
Richard's $.02 :munchin |
FWIW, last night I reached out to Ms. Bentley at the Brisbane Times for more details on this case. I asked specifically if the investigation of the crime revealed evidence that Mr. Ellaimouny was motivated by his religious beliefs.
The article itself gives no indication that such was the case. So far, no reply. Maybe she's off hunting mullets <<LINK>>. |
Richard,
I agree that zanies are not specific to any one group/culture/religion. However, many sects (Fihqs) of Islam underwrite this behavior as codified by Sharia i.e. examples of the prophet and his companions as outlined in the Hadiths. The 7th century example of Mohammed is considered inviolate by every Muslim otherwise they are apostates as Mo is the perfect example of manhood. Your rationalizing these actions as specific to the individual are more than naive and that acceptance is counted upon by radical Muslims that practice taqiyya. |
I do understand - I'm playing the devil's advocate - my point is that all Muslims aren't 'radical' and the inherant dangers to us of classifying them all as such - perhaps like this instance where it appears more a case of failed personal family relationships (happens every night on the local news regardless of religious belief or non-belief) vs a religious radical practicing jihadism - and I admit I may be naively wrong.
However - I do worry about the affects of the mass media on our culture and the potentially dangerous effects of its newspeak pandering to our baser instincts (my previous post) - which has happened before. I admit my limited personal experience with radical Islam - my experiences dealt more with the nihilistic state-as-religion terror crowd - but I'm hearing many of the same philosophies and arguments, and I - naively perhaps - believe our more egalitarian way of life will eventually prevail - a personal belief in the better idea concept and the many cracks (human nature?) amongst the current Islamic cultures. Expressing a desire to live within and consistently practice the rule of law - while maintaining our uniquely progressive cultural identity and not developing into any of the societies foreshadowed in the dystopian genre of post-WW2 literature or that of our currently spotlit enemy du jour - is my desire - something which obviously is not and never will be easy...as if it ever has. Language is important to that goal and I worry about its power to persuade when used less carefully or less definitively. Personally, I appreciate the many points-of-view this forum offers us all. Richard's $.02 :munchin |
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I’m a simple minded guy and perhaps I see things too simply. I believe there is inhereant danger in not correctly labeling those who are radical and this depends on your definition of radical….. Radical a: marked by a considerable departure from the usual or traditional : EXTREME b: tending or disposed to make extreme changes in existing views, habits, conditions, or institutions c: of, relating to, or constituting a political group associated with views, practices, and policies of extreme change d: advocating extreme measures to retain or restore a political state of affairs If “d” is your definition then your statement works. If “a,b,or c”, then I think your statement causes concern. From my reading of the Quran and the Bible I’ve reached a simple conclusion. So called “moderate Muslims” are the true radicals in that they have departed from the teachings of the Quran. The so called “radical militant Islamist” is just what he claims to be – a true adherent of the faith. http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran..._passages.html From my reading of the Bible I see that the writings in the Old Testament form the foundations or tree trunk for each of the “big three” religions. The Christian split comes at the New Testament. We cannot reconcile the Crusades, Jim Jones, David Koresh, and the Klan et al with the true teachings of Christianity. It is very important to correctly classify them. The question is not, Are they radicals? The question is, Are they a true believer in regard to their book?-my two cents |
It still amazes me that in the modern age there are still those who try to equate Muslim violence with the Christian crusades...
Not to get into historical/religious debate, but violence conducted CENTURIES ago when violence was what people did when they werent sleeping or foraging for resources to survive. We live in a modern age where stabbing, shooting or beheading someone because they have "dishonored" your family is nothing more than criminal. Any attempt to "understand" this behavior is as frivilous as the excuse itself. The offenders AS WELL as the sympathizers should be ran over by a train. |
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