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jillyz12 05-21-2009 11:06

5 Alabama police officers fired
 
By now, most people have probably seen this video, but if not, here's a link:

C:\Documents and Settings\a033761\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.Outlook\5MVUJOPE\5 Alabama police officers fired over beating caught on camera - CNN com#cnnSTCVideo (2).html

Am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with what those officers did? I'd really like to know, because I get the feeling my co-workers think there's something seriously wrong with me in this matter. I can't help it...the suspect ran from the police, endangering lives over a 50 mile area and very nearly killed a cop...intentionally, it appeared to me. Should I feel badly because I don't feel pity for criminals?

I don't want to think I'm hard-hearted, but what person with a working brain doesn't know that if you attempt murder on a policer officer, all of his brothers are going to come down on you feet first????

MARSOC0211 05-21-2009 11:32

Web Link
 
Post the actual web link, not your C drive storage location...

Team Sergeant 05-21-2009 11:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by MARSOC0211 (Post 265981)
Post the actual web link, not your C drive storage location...

LOL, that's a first....;)

jillyz12 05-21-2009 12:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by MARSOC0211 (Post 265981)
Post the actual web link, not your C drive storage location...

Sorry....I never claimed to be computer-literate. :p How about this:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/20/...olice.beating/

SF0 05-21-2009 12:16

Can't say the guy did not deserve a beating, but professional conduct must be observed at all times by law enforcement. Kung-fu flying baton attacks to the ass and dog piling isn't needed to detain a guy that just flew out the driver's side window of a rolling van and hit the ground already unconscious. He probably didn't even notice the beat down anyway.

metelliana 05-21-2009 12:19

What's that Nietzsche quote about monsters?
 
Doesn't it go something like:"Be careful when chasing monsters, lest you become one yourself."

metelliana

MARSOC0211 05-21-2009 12:28

Concur with SFO however,

Officer with baton: +10 for excellent reaction time

All Officers: -10 for judgment

Cameras are excellent tools, but they will damn you in a heart beat

Counsel 05-21-2009 12:37

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Originally Posted by MARSOC0211 (Post 265990)
Cameras are excellent tools, but they will damn you in a heart beat

+ 1...and I might add...here come the lawsuits :munchin

echoes 05-21-2009 13:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by metelliana (Post 265988)
Doesn't it go something like:"Be careful when chasing monsters, lest you become one yourself."

metelliana

IMVHO, NO, given as reason the sheep/wolves/sheepdogs Theory.

Intentionally threatening a Law Enforcement Officer is not the frame of mind I really want living next door to me and my family...how about you?

Quite simple to me, as I have the highest respect for those who risk their lives daily to remove this type of scum from Our world. :munchin

Holly

greenberetTFS 05-21-2009 14:24

[QUOTE=echoes;266013]IMVHO, NO, given as reason the sheep/wolves/sheepdogs Theory.

Intentionally threatening a Law Enforcement Officer is not the frame of mind I really want living next door to me and my family...how about you?

Quite simple to me, as I have the highest respect for those who risk their lives daily to remove this type of scum from Our world. :munchin

Holly[/QUOTE/

Holly's right, I agree with her 100%.....:rolleyes: These guys lay down their lives every day and that jerk just got was coming to him..............:mad:

GB TFS :munchin

Team Sergeant 05-21-2009 15:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Counsel (Post 265993)
+ 1...and I might add...here come the lawsuits :munchin

We all know that's coming.....

The LEO's need to stand together on how morons should be treated when they attempt to kill or kill a fellow LEO....

If this goes national of which I'm sure it will. I say all LEO's (Every LEO in the country, state, county and city) call in sick for a week or so..... that should do it....

Smokin Joe 05-21-2009 15:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 266037)
We all know that's coming.....

The LEO's need to stand together on how morons should be treated when they attempt to kill or kill a fellow LEO....

If this goes national of which I'm sure it will. I say all LEO's (Every LEO in the country, state, county and city) call in sick for a week or so..... that should do it....

Ahhh the blue flu.... it has worked for other agencies... but it is few and far between.

kgoerz 05-21-2009 18:21

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Originally Posted by jillyz12 (Post 265977)
By now, most people have probably seen this video, but if not, here's a link:

C:\Documents and Settings\a033761\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.Outlook\5MVUJOPE\5 Alabama police officers fired over beating caught on camera - CNN com#cnnSTCVideo (2).html

Am I the only one who doesn't have a problem with what those officers did? I'd really like to know, because I get the feeling my co-workers think there's something seriously wrong with me in this matter. I can't help it...the suspect ran from the police, endangering lives over a 50 mile area and very nearly killed a cop...intentionally, it appeared to me. Should I feel badly because I don't feel pity for criminals?

I don't want to think I'm hard-hearted, but what person with a working brain doesn't know that if you attempt murder on a policer officer, all of his brothers are going to come down on you feet first????

As much as this or any other POS deserves a beat down. You just can't beat a Handcuffed or unconscious person. It is what separates us from them.
What those Officers did was not only stupid but completely unprofessional. Their fellow Officers will be paying the price for their mistake for years to come.

monsterhunter 05-21-2009 19:16

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Originally Posted by kgoerz (Post 266059)
As much as this or any other POS deserves a beat down. You just can't beat a Handcuffed or unconscious person. It is what separates us from them.
What those Officers did was not only stupid but completely unprofessional. Their fellow Officers will be paying the price for their mistake for years to come.

Very well said. I've been in this situation a few times. I know how those officers felt and why they did it. I even think the suspect had it coming, but you just can't do that.

The post pursuit discipline was horrible and it will do more harm than good in the long run. This just makes it easier for the suspects to claim they are victims, feed into conspiracy theories, and convince the ignorant that this is standard procedure.

Utah Bob 05-21-2009 20:51

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Originally Posted by monsterhunter (Post 266068)
Very well said. I've been in this situation a few times. I know how those officers felt and why they did it. I even think the suspect had it coming, but you just can't do that.

The post pursuit discipline was horrible and it will do more harm than good in the long run. This just makes it easier for the suspects to claim they are victims, feed into conspiracy theories, and convince the ignorant that this is standard procedure.

Yup. Like the camera, adrenalin isn't always your friend. When push comes to shove you have to go with your training and discipline. These guys didn't.


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