Originally Posted by Max_Tab (Post 229884)

On side not, how in the world do I get one of those "walk on water" badges. I really, want one, at least while I'm deployed. (see opening page bottom row of pictures)


:D

Originally Posted by JSE (Post 229706)

Go to www.onetao.com; it's Lee Burkins' personal website which contains several photos of Vermont while he ran recon under Kinnear and Miller. Also, if you haven't read it yet, go buy Lee's book, Soldier's Heart; every operation he recounts is while he was with Vermont while Kinnear was the One-Zero. In August of 1970, Lee moved over from Vermont to become the One-Zero on Colorado.

I keep in frequent contact with Lee; what exactly are you looking for?

HTH.

Originally Posted by gagners (Post 229920)

I am also heading to a Recon company

Originally Posted by Jack Moroney (Post 229971)

Congratulations on picking up the company.

Originally Posted by JSE (Post 229911)

If I remember correctly, SOG Headquarters in Saigon quit issuing the "Walk on Water" IDs in mid-1969 because they were being misused and slightly abused. Imagine that; bunch of hooligans, those boys were. :D

Originally Posted by gagners (Post 229920)

Thanks for the link, that's some good stuff.

Had a couple of questions... ie, where did the "Vermont" come from? I know they were named for different states, snakes etc, but did the state itself have anything to do with it?

Aside from the overtly curious questions, I am also heading to a Recon company and, since the stories of what these guys (SOG) did are so impressive/inspiring, I wanted to pass some of these stories onto my soldiers and cultivate and foster some of that warrior spirit that the recon teams obviously possessed. Since we're in VT, it just kinda made sense, you know?

Originally Posted by Max_Tab (Post 229992)

Imagine that SF guy's misusing something like that. It's hard to believe.


It is nice to see SF guy's are SF guy's no matter what time frame they came from.

Originally Posted by JSE (Post 229998)

I think you'd like Nick Brokhausen's book, We Few. It's full of sarcasm, acts of larceny, breaking and entering, kidnapping, and all sorts of debauchery. All of that on top of running recon out of CCN in 1970; a great read.

Originally Posted by Max_Tab (Post 229999)

I will definitely pick it up, it sounds good. My wife is convinced every single one of us is a hooligan, so I'll be able to show it to her, and say it's genetic's. :D

Originally Posted by JSE (Post 229998)

The teams were named randomly as far as I can tell. CCN teams were named after states and poisonous snakes; CCC teams were states only, and CCS teams were named after tools. And yes, there were a few teams at CCC and CCN that shared the same state name, and there were several state names that weren't even used.

There's some good stuff about SOG out there in the book stores but you really have to dig for some titles. Plaster's books are easy to find and they are quite comprehensive but he did get some stuff wrong, believe it or not. Lee's book isn't what I would call a motivational read, if you get my drift. His book examines the humanity of war, or the lack thereof and really forces you to question the motives that linger. It's tough to explain... Very, very profound stuff though.



I think you'd like Nick Brokhausen's book, We Few. It's full of sarcasm, acts of larceny, breaking and entering, kidnapping, and all sorts of debauchery. All of that on top of running recon out of CCN in 1970; a great read.

Originally Posted by gagners (Post 230104)

Thanks. I'll start my dig in the book stores. Thank you for your time!