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hoepoe 08-30-2008 08:49

What, where and when?
 
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Title says it all.

Good luck :-)

H

Pete 08-30-2008 09:44

Hmmm
 
Radial engine with a two blade prop and tail (?) structure with a lot of metal.

Slightly tropical location with Eastern Block (?) rusted cars in the background.

Ain't got a clue. I'll wait for the experts.

Looks like somebody tried to turn it into some kinda' Zen garden.

Penn 08-30-2008 10:24

I'm going with an OV-10 Bronco or a 0-2 skymaster SEA

PSM 08-30-2008 11:13

A tribute to the Doolittle Raiders on mainland China?

Pat

Ambush Master 08-30-2008 11:27

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Originally Posted by Penn (Post 222911)
I'm going with an OV-10 Bronco SEA

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSM (Post 222924)
A tribute to the Doolittle Raiders on mainland China?

Pat


Negative on both of these. The OV-10 is powered by a Garrett Turbine TPE331 series!!

The B-25s had Wright R2600s that were a "Twin Row" radial.

The wreckage is a "Single Row" Radial!!

Still mulling over the possibilities!!

Pete 08-30-2008 11:30

2 Blade Prop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PSM (Post 222924)
A tribute to the Doolittle Raiders on mainland China?

Pat


The prop in the picture appears to be 2 blade. Most WW II US radial engines used a three blade prop, to include the B-25. The only 2 blade I can recall is the T-6 Texan, the trainer. Maybe the battleship float planes, Kingfisher (?).

Let me go look somewhere.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...i_Recovers.jpg

Yeah, the Kingfisher had a two blade prop.

Granted the metal is old and weather worn but the base looks like a mustard green, not in the US OD shade and Deff. not a Navy Blue.

Penn 08-30-2008 11:44

1952 CESSNA 195 might fit the bill. Single prop radial. Tail seems close. That could put it in ROK

Pete 08-30-2008 11:54

Lycoming O-235
 
Lycoming O-235

Kinda Like a VW bug engine. 4 Cyl opposing.

hoepoe 08-30-2008 11:59

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OK here is the sign that was next to it.

It translates to:
Syrian Plane that attacked Kibbutz Ayelet Hashachar during the War of Independance. It was downed by rifle and machine gun fire from the kibbutz's inhabitants that were defending the kibbutz on 16 July 1947.

The "garden" that it is next to is actually part of a nursery school on the Kibbutz :-)

Sorry, i don;t know the exact plane type, but figure it was Eastern Block.

H

GratefulCitizen 08-30-2008 12:18

Looks kinda like a Cessna Crane.

The engine looks like a Jacobs L-6.

http://www.lancastermuseum.ca/s,jacobsengine.html
http://www.lancastermuseum.ca/crane.html

British commonwealth plane around since at least 1940.

Pete 08-30-2008 12:31

Well lookie here - Texans
 
Well lookie here - Texans

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/printer_253.shtml


"On July 16, Syrian Texans were in action again, attacking enemy positions at Afuleh and Ayelet Ha’Shakhar, where one was downed by groundfire. The pilot Lt Faisal Nadif and his observer/gunner, whose name is not known but might have been Fuad, were both killed. Although no official accounts of this incident have been released by the Syrian military authorities, some information lurked in Israeli archives for decades. Some of the documents add touching human details to what was otherwise a small incident in a wider war—see separate item."

PSM 08-30-2008 12:44

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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 222940)

Nice call! :lifter

Pat

GratefulCitizen 08-30-2008 12:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete (Post 222940)
Well lookie here - Texans

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/printer_253.shtml


"On July 16, Syrian Texans were in action again, attacking enemy positions at Afuleh and Ayelet Ha’Shakhar, where one was downed by groundfire. The pilot Lt Faisal Nadif and his observer/gunner, whose name is not known but might have been Fuad, were both killed. Although no official accounts of this incident have been released by the Syrian military authorities, some information lurked in Israeli archives for decades. Some of the documents add touching human details to what was otherwise a small incident in a wider war—see separate item."

The engine:

http://www.sicuropublishing.com/serv...sh-1340/Detail


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