Mars temp changing
 

Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says
Kate Ravilious
for National Geographic News

February 28, 2007
Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet's recent climate changes have a natural—and not a human-induced—cause, according to one scientist's controversial theory.

Earth is currently experiencing rapid warming, which the vast majority of climate scientists says is due to humans pumping huge amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. (Get an overview: "Global Warming Fast Facts".)

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Jim

PESKY SUVs
 

Them darn martians need to turn in their SUVs and go to Mars friendly "red" vehicles.:D

Pete

I am not buying this as fact.

Scientists agree (generally) that the Earth is warming.

It may be cyclical, it may be solar, etc.

What the majority of scientists do not agree on is the impact of humans and greenhouse gasses in the warming trend.

It would appear that the Mars data suggests a non-human cause.

TR

that would be an inconvenient truth for the self-hating tree huggers...

Maybe someone needs to make the Mars warming into a 90 minute Powerpoint Presentation. That way everyone would believe it.

so glad you volunteered....:munchin :D

Dust storms on Mars are causing the warming there.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast11oct_2.htm


Full Story here

You can't really compair the 2 since one has life and the other doesn't; . . . or does it? The only way to know for sure what is causing global warming here is to wait and see what happens in the future; when it is too late to do anything about it. Why not err on the side of caution and do what we can to eliminate things we think will have an effect on climate?

Well I did my bit today emitting greenhouse gasses from my 15HP John Deere snowblower as I removed another foot of snow from my yard and driveway. And that Folks is the reason why the Easter Bunny in Vermont is not a Bunny at all but a Snowshoe Hare so it can get around during the Easter snowstorms.
Global warming my 4th POC!!!!:D

Green house emissions
 

I just belched, I'm guilty :rolleyes:

A few years back I was at a ground water contamination seminar. The whole ordeal was prompted by the superfund legislation which was overseen by the EPA and the regional water board. The engineering firm holding the seminar was trying to sell this expensive remidiation process involving a severe amount of bells and whistles costing lots of dollars.

Towards the end of the program, I ask the Phd. who was giving the lecture about his personal opinion related to the problem. He said he thought mother earth would solve it naturally. The personel from the engineering firm just about s**t a brick when he said that.

Meanwhile the EPA forced a ton of private property owners to drilled numerous wells at $15 - $20 grand each and costing around $800 to $1,000 per month to monitor the water from these wells. Once they got all the private property owners to pay for the research they moved to another region and did the same thing all over again.

Part of the principles inherent in the superfund legislation was that the folks who comtaminate the ground water had to pay for the remediation. I ask them if the folks who are drilling wells etc. are shown to have not been a comtaminator, are there provisions for them to recoup their funds. The EPA guy with the brightly colored shirt and the flowered tie, said no...there's no provision for that. They just forced some of these folks to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars and then went on their merry way.

I guess my problem is that if you turn the colored shirt and flowered tie people loose to solve a theoretic problem, there's no telling what they'll do as they do not care about equity and fair play. If businesses are ruined they could give a damn.

....and the protests have already started. :rolleyes:

But how else are the Martians going to get the whole family down to the store, to pick up the components needed, for their Illudium P-48 Destructive Space Modulator ?

As you can see....there's still plenty of parking, towards the back of the lot.

i see you've been to the Wal-Mart in Fallon NV...

SO! algore built a vacation house on Mars, one of the really green ones like he has in TN? Is he going to start writing books on the martian ecology now, with Toffler?