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Snaquebite 01-11-2007 10:49

Secretary Gates Recommends End Strength Increases
 
Today the Secretary of Defense announced he has recommended to the President a permanent increase to the end strength of the U.S. Army and U.S. Marine Corps. His proposal is for an increase of 92,000 personnel over the next five years: 65,000 soldiers and 27,000 Marines.

http://www.defenselink.mil/Releases/...eleaseID=10388

uboat509 01-11-2007 11:36

I keep wondering where they are going to get all these extra soldiers. Unless I have missed something, recruiters are not turning away large numbers of qualified applicants, certainly not 13,000 a year. Don't get me wrong, I am all for the increase but given the fact that the Army has barely made quota the last few years I am wondering what kind of incentives they are going to offer to get all these extra people in.

SFC W

Pete 01-11-2007 12:22

First things first
 
First things first.

An end strength increase has been recommended. Lets see if congress will fund the slots before we worry about getting the warm bodies.

Pete

incommin 01-11-2007 14:04

Congress should have fixed this years ago. It is congress who says how large and sets funding........ Do you really think the Dems will put a lot more $$$$$ into a larger military???????? It would mean not funding their pet projects....

Jim

Jack Moroney (RIP) 01-11-2007 14:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by uboat509
I keep wondering where they are going to get all these extra soldiers.

Well if they could figure out a way of preventing a catheter from being jerked loose on opening shock,have a continuous feed of motrin and vitamins in a geritol blend stashed in camel backs, and swap out of hearing aids for bluetooth technology we FOGs can throw away our depends and fill the ranks:D Mind you, I think we might be good for one mission and one mission only-but most of us would prefer to go out in blaze of glory rather than wither and die on the sidelines.

Trip_Wire (RIP) 01-11-2007 15:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Moroney
Well if they could figure out a way of preventing a catheter from being jerked loose on opening shock,have a continuous feed of motrin and vitamins in a geritol blend stashed in camel backs, and swap out of hearing aids for bluetooth technology we FOGs can throw away our depends and fill the ranks:D Mind you, I think we might be good for one mission and one mission only-but most of us would prefer to go out in blaze of glory rather than wither and die on the sidelines.

I'm with you COL.!:) :lifter

Jack Moroney (RIP) 01-11-2007 15:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip_Wire
I'm with you COL.!:) :lifter

Okay, that's two of us. I've got door position and point:D

Noslack71 01-11-2007 20:37

Make it three Col.

futureSoldier 01-11-2007 21:57

Gentlemen,

I realize that I represent a small percentage but I have been trying to get INTO the Army for 3 months and am probably still atleast month away from signing. If the Army is serious about increasing in size, then it should start with the first boundry that civilians interact with, recruiters and the MEPs. I am not alone in having my materials lost, being run in circles about MOS's, and worst of all being told to lie about my past (minor medical problems and occasional drug use years ago). Apart from the obvious ethical and moral problems, it is simply poor salesmanship. The number one selling point for quality candidates is also the best thing about the Army: joining something bigger than yourself for the sake of your country. When your first interaction with the Army is filled with lies or obvious stretches of the truth, it makes you reconsider the reality of what it is that your signing up for.

Anyways, just my thoughts on the process.

Joe

82ndtrooper 01-11-2007 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by futureSoldier
Gentlemen,

I realize that I represent a small percentage but I have been trying to get INTO the Army for 3 months and am probably still atleast month away from signing. If the Army is serious about increasing in size, then it should start with the first boundry that civilians interact with, recruiters and the MEPs. I am not alone in having my materials lost, being run in circles about MOS's, and worst of all being told to lie about my past (minor medical problems and occasional drug use years ago). Apart from the obvious ethical and moral problems, it is simply poor salesmanship. The number one selling point for quality candidates is also the best thing about the Army: joining something bigger than yourself for the sake of your country. When your first interaction with the Army is filled with lies or obvious stretches of the truth, it makes you reconsider the reality of what it is that your signing up for.

Anyways, just my thoughts on the process.






Joe



By all means reconsider.

Jack Moroney (RIP) 01-12-2007 05:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by futureSoldier
Gentlemen,

I realize that I represent a small percentage but I have been trying to get INTO the Army for 3 months and am probably still atleast month away from signing. If the Army is serious about increasing in size, then it should start with the first boundry that civilians interact with, recruiters and the MEPs. I am not alone in having my materials lost, being run in circles about MOS's, and worst of all being told to lie about my past (minor medical problems and occasional drug use years ago). Apart from the obvious ethical and moral problems, it is simply poor salesmanship. The number one selling point for quality candidates is also the best thing about the Army: joining something bigger than yourself for the sake of your country. When your first interaction with the Army is filled with lies or obvious stretches of the truth, it makes you reconsider the reality of what it is that your signing up for.

Anyways, just my thoughts on the process.

Joe

How about sending me the the specifics of where, when and who concerning this incident and I will pass it up the line. This recruiter should be looking for other means of employment. I will need your name, his name and rank if you can remember it, when this occured and where. I am sure I can get someone's attention so that this doesn't occur again.


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