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keith 05-24-2006 06:30

Dog Handler SF MOS
 
A few years ago I heard that SOC was adding a Dog Handler MOS to Special Forces. My source was fairly reliable, so I may have misunderstood the statement.

He mentioned practicing HALO jumps with his dog strapped to him and the dog releasing his bowels and biting him when he jumped. That sounded like a blast to me so I have been keeping an eye out for mention of it since.

Clearly there is no dog handler MOS (18K? ;) ), but would you guys consider such an addition to the team helpful?

It seems like it would be useful on direct action missions (for room clearing), but I'd imagine it would be unused or even harmful in other missions.

jatx 05-24-2006 06:43

:munchin

QRQ 30 05-24-2006 07:25

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:munchin

DITTO!!!:rolleyes:

NousDefionsDoc 05-24-2006 07:28

No.

Did you read the information provided here?

jatx 05-24-2006 07:51

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Originally Posted by keith
He mentioned practicing HALO jumps with his dog strapped to him and the dog releasing his bowels and biting him when he jumped.

This thread is useless without pics! :D

SF18C 05-24-2006 08:00

My uncle told me this same story, but it started when he was in Vietnam!

I'm not to sure a dog would do well on O2 for a HALO jump. Also having an "18Kilo" on a team would be about as useful a helicopter pilot.

Just my 2¢

Sdiver 05-24-2006 08:20

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This thread is useless without pics! :D

Ask, and ye shall receive.

keith 05-24-2006 08:29

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Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
No.

Did you read the information provided here?

Yes.

I was hoping to get some feedback on a topic I thought was interesting... I'll go back to answering questions in the knuckledragger forum where I belong.

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Originally Posted by SF18C
I'm not to sure a dog would do well on O2 for a HALO jump. Also having an "18Kilo" on a team would be about as useful a helicopter pilot.

He said the dog didn't have any O2 (I recall inquiring about a doggie mask).

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Originally Posted by jatx
This thread is useless without pics! :D

EDIT: beaten to it.

NousDefionsDoc 05-24-2006 08:45

Why would having a dog handler on an ODA be an interesting topic? But fine, let's discuss it.

Looking at the SF missions, how many do you see in there in which a dog would be the critical path to success?

What does a dog bring to the table that would warrant taking the risk of having a soldier jump the dog into the TAOR?

The dog weighs what? 75-100 lbs.? How about the food? Who's going to carry the extra water?

QRQ 30 05-24-2006 08:48

Personally, I think this belongs in the "Romper Room".:rolleyes:

There is a reason for the CMF 18 series. It was to eliminate all of the extra support personnel from carrying the SF qualification. There has been use for dogs in the past and just like then if the need arises a dog and handler will be ATTACHED for the duration of the need. The same as for SIGINT, CCT etc.

Besides they don't have berets to fit pooches.:D

Croooz 05-24-2006 09:01

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Besides they don't have berets to fit pooches.:D

Not true. Attachment 6144 :D

NousDefionsDoc 05-24-2006 09:04

Keith,
To what missions are dogs considered to be an asset? I would think guarding a facility and perhaps post-incident response. Any others?

Sdiver 05-24-2006 09:08

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Besides they don't have berets to fit pooches.:D

Here's three dogs wearing Berets.

Sten 05-24-2006 09:37

What about dogs with fricken lasers on their heads?

QRQ 30 05-24-2006 09:57

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Keith,
To what missions are dogs considered to be an asset? I would think guarding a facility and perhaps post-incident response. Any others?

There are many types of dogs. We have used the Scout Dog in the past as have the NVA against us Specifically in Laos. Perhaps Ambush Master as well as I can attest to this. Scout dogs have been used to track and locate bad guys. In addition there are dogs trained to alert to munitions/explosives which cqan be used to "sniff" out caches as well as IUD's, OOOPS IED's.:D

We didn't need them in RVN since our indig could hear, see and smell as well as any dog I met.

There was a SCOUT dog school at Lenngries and a few got to attend as well as we also took a few on training exercises.

NO MOS!!!

What breed is the pooch on the right?:D


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