7th Army NCO Academy... Flint
Anyone else out here, that was stationed at Flint Kaserne attend the above Academy?
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Brad:
The NCO academy changed to PLDC or something like that when the Army modified the NCOES system years ago. For that reason several SF guys, lower ranks, should have attended it. |
Nope!!! We avoided it like the plague. IIRC they tried to send personnel accepted to OCS prior to shipping.
OTOH I attended the "Combat Arms Communications Officer Course" conducted by 7th Army at PHK. I made honor grad as a SSG - the only EM in the course. One of the students made a real monkey out of himself by complaining it wasn't fair. :D :D :D |
My dad attended the academy at Flint in 1958. Said it was one tough school!
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They keep changing things on me bost. I think they tried to always send two of us from Flint to each class. Since we were in the same Kaserne and all.
QRQ. I wanted nothing to do with it. I had only been at Flint for a couple months and assigned to a new and the last Team, that was being formed, minding my own damn business, when I received the orders. I must have read them ten times, thinking it was a mistake. I went through the chain of command as far as I could, trying to get out of it. Yeah. Fat chance. The Army had already tossed me into a three week type NCO course right after AIT. Here, I thought I was headed to Benning for Jump School and find myself shanghai'd. That came as a surprise as well. Must have been a tough school FILO. Somehow, I finished as honor graduate. :D Actually, I don't remember thinking of it as tough. Just having to be there was tough and I had just graduated from SFTG only a few months prior. EVERYTHING seemed easier after that. ;) |
As I recall, there was a monument in the NCOA corner of the quad. that had a miniature tank. I believe it was one of the decoys dropped on D-Day. The brass plaque was almways being polishid by someone. I would love to have had a concession on Brasso.
I also recall that their floors were the shiniest I have ever seen. CRS if they were concrete or tiled. The rooms had hardwood floors. Today they may use poly-urethane but in those days it was Johnson's paste wax and elbow grease.:eek: |
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the little tank...
got BTFU in the Fall of 1980...some poor schmuck in HHC wanted to impress the A-team guys, it seems...he "found" a claymore mine, put it under the tank and set it off...blew out quite a few windows on the NE side of the quad...:rolleyes:
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IKSteve
I recall the "blowing up the tank" incident. I caused quite a stir. Actually it was pretty comical too. There were more rumors floating around about who did it. Most of the rumors were pretty fitting too.
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The corner I mentioned would have been to the left as you entered the quad.
Basically, the 7th Army was on the left and Group was on the right. The NCO club was in the far left corner and the EM club was in the far right. That wing straight ahead also had the American Express bank, mess halls, and PX, on various floors. |
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LOL. I imagine it was Hugh. I wonder how many layers down mine were. :eek: I graduated from there 3/70.
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That damn tank has become a topic of conversation.
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but back to the original question, when i was the XO on A-8, the company SGM threatened to send me to the 7th Army NCO Academy...:D |
Damn Steve! You should have taken him up on it. You would have come out of it with a promotion. You would have been an NCO. :cool:
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My SGM tried to get me out of going to the NCOA. Turned out, it went higher than even he could get. :( |
Steve, you missed a golden opportunity.
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Given the option and having done both. I'll take raking the pine needles anytime. ;)
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I was there
I was there and because of that I made the model for the inspection of the rooms. Photos and descriptions, a manuel. They just wouldn't allow my cowboy boots! I guess the captain thought everybody had to have a pair.
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I attended in 1983 and hated every moment. I polished the floors (autobahn), toilet bolts, drains, water fountains and 155mm rounds, asking myself what in the world this has to do with warfighting. I was a lean mean Airborne Ranger/ SF jumpmaster and pathfinder, why was I here with these “legs”. This was my first contact/interaction with women in the Army and it was a traumatic event for me. The cadre and I did not see eye to eye, maybe I should say the Commandant, but thank goodness to a senior NCO acting on my behalf I graduated, but not as the Distinguished Honor Grad! I walked down the middle of the autobahnas I left there to show my contempt for them. I ended up doing BNCOC in Hohenfels and Distinguished Honor Graduate there, it was too easy! How the years have mellowed my attitude. I visited the Quad in August 1998 before I left Germany the last time, it was heart breaking. Michael |
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Still breaks mine..........
Hohenfels. I was there. Thing is. I just have to remember why. Before I research my old paperwork and orders, I'm thinking it was a Flintlock exercise. Mike. I see pictures in my head from '70/71........ What has happened there is an abomination!!! |
Brad, Hohenfels is and was one of the big training areas for USAEUR. Most likely you have been there for some sort of exercise.
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I hear you Sir. My experience starts in 1987...:cool:
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I do remember being drenched for the better part of 8 days and that Delorenzo and I managed to really piss off some Captain with the Big Red 1. ;) |
I attended the 7th Army NCO Academy in 1966. I remember the Autobahn and how we had to polish it every night with Lincoln (Never Kiwi) Boot polish and a piece of a G.I. blanket.
All of the chrome on all of the plumbing fixtures was rubbed off with emory cloth and the brass was Brasso'd every night, too. General Omar Bradley visited Flint Kasserne while I was attending the NCO Academy and reminised about General Patton having his Headquarters at Flint Kasserne, before being relieved of command of the Third army. We were all impressed seeing the old gentleman with his five stars on each ephillet (sp) until he decided to walk down the center of the autobahn on his way out of the Academy. Four months later, I reenlisted for SF and ended up back at Flint Kasserne. Mike |
7th Army NCO Academy . . . Flint
Graduated Spring 1965 - Polished same floors in same manner w/cotton balls.
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We avoided it like the plague. Who wanted to spend an inordinate amount of time polishing the "Autobahn" (hallway) and then not being allowed to walk on it? :rolleyes: BS. For us, the secret was to stay committed to the field so that the teams who did less field training always had to send somebody to the school across the archway with their minature tank out in the corner of the quadrangle. :p One of their claims to fame was that the Commandant, a CSM, had GEN Patton's desk from his time at Flint Kaserne. His son, MG Patton, tried to get it for his office when he commanded the 11th Armored Carnival Regiment but the 7th Army NCO Academy's Commandant wouldn't let him have it. Anybody know what eventually happened to that desk? :munchin Richard - who wound up doing the 3rd Army/XVIII ABC NCO Academy. |
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What year did 7th NCOA move to Grafenwoehr? I attended PLDC in 06, 1-10 still sends support guys there. Only heard about the desk, but the mini tank is still out there on a cement slab in front of the headquarters building got a pic of it somewhere, has a star, and moonraker painted on it |
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