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PSM 01-18-2017 17:44

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Originally Posted by Badger52 (Post 622740)
The new dictator-motif toilet paper should be welcome.

Fixed your spelling for 'ya. :D

Pat

Badger52 01-18-2017 19:23

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Originally Posted by PSM (Post 622748)
Fixed your spelling for 'ya. :D

Pat

I liiiike it! :cool:

Streck-Fu 01-19-2017 06:52

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Originally Posted by Badger52 (Post 622740)
The new decorator-motif toilet paper should be welcome.

Ahhhh, me oh my.
Everytime a socialist economic model doubles-down on a proven Rx for disaster someone at the Mises Institute gets their wings. So I guess it all balances out.

:munchin

Speaking of history:

tonyz 02-11-2017 03:51

Tastes like Statism, I mean chicken...complete article at link. And the Statists/Globalists want to spread the chaos and misery...

Venezuelans killing flamingos and anteaters to stave off hunger amid mounting food crisis
By Andrew O'Reilly Published February 10, 2017 FoxNews.com

Venezuela’s food crisis has gotten so bad that people are apparently killing pink flamingos and other protected animals in order to stave off hunger.

While flamingo hunting is both illegal and uncommon in the South American nation, investigators from Zulia University in the northwestern Venezuelan city of Maracaibo have noted at least 20 cases of bird carcasses being discovered with their breasts and torsos removed.

And flamingos aren’t the only unusual animal to become a victim of Venezuela’s worsening food crisis. Remains of everything from dogs and cats to donkeys and even giant anteaters have been found in garbage bags at city dumps around the country.

“Sometimes we only find the animal’s heads, guts and legs. We used to see this very little in the past, but this practice is now out of control and on the rise,” Robert Linares, a Maracaibo waste disposal worker, told the Miami Herald. Linares added he recently found on the street the remains of a dog that had been skinned and dismembered.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/02...od-crisis.html

Badger52 02-11-2017 06:56

It's the new "bush meat" - which does not bode well.

bblhead672 02-13-2017 10:08

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Originally Posted by tonyz (Post 624006)
Tastes like Statism, I mean chicken...complete article at link. And the Statists/Globalists want to spread the chaos and misery...

Venezuelans killing flamingos and anteaters to stave off hunger amid mounting food crisis
By Andrew O'Reilly Published February 10, 2017 FoxNews.com

Venezuela’s food crisis has gotten so bad that people are apparently killing pink flamingos and other protected animals in order to stave off hunger.

While flamingo hunting is both illegal and uncommon in the South American nation, investigators from Zulia University in the northwestern Venezuelan city of Maracaibo have noted at least 20 cases of bird carcasses being discovered with their breasts and torsos removed.

And flamingos aren’t the only unusual animal to become a victim of Venezuela’s worsening food crisis. Remains of everything from dogs and cats to donkeys and even giant anteaters have been found in garbage bags at city dumps around the country.

“Sometimes we only find the animal’s heads, guts and legs. We used to see this very little in the past, but this practice is now out of control and on the rise,” Robert Linares, a Maracaibo waste disposal worker, told the Miami Herald. Linares added he recently found on the street the remains of a dog that had been skinned and dismembered.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/02...od-crisis.html

Wonder how they'll spin the socialist experiment when the cannibalism begins. I'm sure somehow it will be countries who espouse capitalism fault that Venezuela failed so miserably.

PedOncoDoc 02-13-2017 11:04

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Originally Posted by bblhead672 (Post 624074)
Wonder how they'll spin the socialist experiment when the cannibalism begins.

A novel program of combined population control and food sustainability.

tonyz 02-13-2017 12:02

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Originally Posted by PedOncoDoc (Post 624076)
A novel program of combined population control and food sustainability.

What's old is new again...

Soylent verde es la gente !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9IKVj4l5GU4

tonyz 02-20-2017 21:28

The socialist diet.

Study: Venezuelans lost 19 lbs. on average over past year due to lack of food
Published February 20, 2017 FoxNews.com

In a new sign that Venezuela’s financial crisis is morphing dangerously into a humanitarian one, a new nationwide survey shows that in the past year nearly 75 percent of the population lost an average of 19 pounds for lack of food.

The extreme poor said they dropped even more weight than that.

The 2016 Living Conditions Survey (Encovi, for its name in Spanish), conducted among 6,500 families, also found that as many as 32.5 percent eat only once or twice a day — the figure was 11.3 just a year ago.

In all, 82 percent of the nation's households live in poverty, the study found.

The lack of food has even earned a nickname: “The Maduro Diet.”

<snip> complete article at link.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/02...lack-food.html

CSB 02-20-2017 21:58

I suspect that the advice "find the socialists and kill them" would be discarded as being simplistic.
Maybe next year.
If there are any free citizens of the country alive.

DIYPatriot 03-02-2017 14:07

Down to the last drop
 
Who could've ever imagined?

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Over the remainder of 2017, Caracas needs to fund $7.2 billion in debt payments – an amount that it can only meet if oil prices spike far higher than the ongoing boosts caused by OPEC’s output reduction agreement. Current reserves stand 66 percent lower than levels in 2011, when the government held $30 billion in foreign currencies to spend on loan repayments and other official business. "The question is: Where is the floor?" Siobhan Morden, head of Latin America fixed income strategy at Nomura Holdings, told CNN Money. "If oil prices stagnate and foreign reserves reach zero, then the clock is going to start on a default."

Venezuela’s financial report for 2016 stated that roughly $7.7 billion of the remaining $10.5 billion in foreign reserves had been preserved in gold. Last year, in order to fulfill debt obligations, Caracas began shipping gold to Switzerland. The drastic fall in oil prices in 2014 and widespread corruption have both caused an economic meltdown in the South American country, where citizens had become accustomed to imported goods paid for by fossil fuel revenues. President Nicolas Maduro has resorted to opening the country’s border with Colombia to allow Venezuelans to purchase necessary medical and day-to-day supplies.

Venezuelan state-run oil company PDVSA’s default is probable, according to the ratings agency Fitch, which cited the oil giant’s weak liquidity position and high amortization scheduled for 2017 as the causes of the default problem last month. "Should oil prices remain around current levels, average recovery may lead to additional future defaults to further reduce obligations and allow for necessary transfers to the government," said Fitch’s senior director Lucas Aristizabal. The company has projected that its oil production will maintain its 23-year-low in 2017.
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Meanwhile, our foreign policy with Latin America, most notably Venezuela, is beginning to take shape.

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During the first month of President Trump’s administration, the question of U.S. policy on Venezuela and other Latin American countries remained largely unknown. But recently, political leaders in Venezuela have a good idea of what America’s new position might look like. We could be seeing a much more hardline approach compared to the policy under former President Obama. In early February a bipartisan group of congress members called for sanctions on Venezuela and demanded for the release of political prisoners. They specifically pointed to Venezuela’s Vice President Tareck El Aissami, and his possible links with drugs and terrorism. In response, last week the U.S. Treasury Department announced sanctions against El Aissami for drug trafficking under the Kingpin Act along with other prominent Venezuelans. This first act sent a sharp message to Venezuela’s socialist leader, President Nicolás Maduro Moros, known as Maduro.

Following this, Trump used his Twitter account to post a picture of himself with Vice President Pence and Senator Marco Rubio (FL-R) along with Lilian Tintori, the wife of a prominent Venezuelan opposition politician, now being held as a political prisoner. In the tweet, Trump called for the release of Tintori’s husband, Leopoldo Lopez. Then the U.S. Department of State called for the release of more than 100 prisoners of conscience, including Lopez. In addition to calling for the release of political prisoners, the sanctions against Venezuela are also a way of condemning the human rights abuses (including the imprisonment of Lopez) happening in this south American country

For opposition activists, such as youth party leader Carlos Graffe, recent U.S. actions are welcome. Graffe, youth wing leader for Proyecto Venezuela spoke with Opportunity Lives almost a year ago about the protest movement in Venezuela and his hopes for the future, which include overturning President Maduro’s government.
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Badger52 03-02-2017 16:56

DIY, thanks for those. Hey, Maduro, is that foreign policy too nuanced for ya?

I'll have to fire up the key this weekend & CQ YV and see if there's anyone down there yet that hasn't sold their radio to buy bread.

Flagg 03-02-2017 20:13

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Originally Posted by tonyz (Post 624335)
The socialist diet.

Study: Venezuelans lost 19 lbs. on average over past year due to lack of food
Published February 20, 2017 FoxNews.com

In a new sign that Venezuela’s financial crisis is morphing dangerously into a humanitarian one, a new nationwide survey shows that in the past year nearly 75 percent of the population lost an average of 19 pounds for lack of food.

The extreme poor said they dropped even more weight than that.

The 2016 Living Conditions Survey (Encovi, for its name in Spanish), conducted among 6,500 families, also found that as many as 32.5 percent eat only once or twice a day — the figure was 11.3 just a year ago.

In all, 82 percent of the nation's households live in poverty, the study found.

The lack of food has even earned a nickname: “The Maduro Diet.”

<snip> complete article at link.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/02...lack-food.html

When the Soviet Union collapsed, so did aid to Cuba.

Cuba's economy went into freefall and Cubans on average also lost a considerable amount of weight.

Rates of cardiovascular disease in Cuba also collapsed in the period following the weight loss.

I'm waiting for Maduro/Venezuela to start promoting the benefits of the new "Venezuela Diet" from dumpster diving, eating flamingos, and just going hungry.

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It would be very interesting to see real time data(such as realtime "in the moment" smart phone surveys/polls) with a visual representation of when/where all those little guys transform from voting for anyone who promises to end their pain(parental pain of watching their kids go hungry) to eliminating the very people who are creating/enhancing that very pain.

Obviously Maduro and his Cuban/Russian/Iranian buddies will use every tool available to prevent/disrupt effective opposition from forming.

But ubiquitous mobile phone distribution globally must be one of the most disruptive pieces of technology to move at least slightly closer towards "science" on the art/science revolution continuum.

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Cuba is broke and dependant on Venezuela for free/cheap energy so I'm guessing is dug in like a tick to maintain the influence and gravy train.

Russia is going broke fast with cheap commodity prices, increasing foreign adventures to pay for its disruptive/influence foreign policy model.

Iran has access to more money due to nuclear deal, but has some very expensive foreign military adventures going on.

Outside of Cuba's undivided attention, I wonder how high on the list of priorities Venezuela is for Russia/Iran?

Would Maduro popping up in Pyongyang before Xmas be outside the realm of possibility?

tonyz 03-02-2017 21:52

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Originally Posted by Flagg (Post 624643)
Would Maduro popping up in Pyongyang before Xmas be outside the realm of possibility?

What, like Kim Jong Nam?

...the Venezuelan people can only hope.

Tree Potato 03-03-2017 08:56

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Originally Posted by Badger52 (Post 624630)
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I'll have to fire up the key this weekend & CQ YV and see if there's anyone down there yet that hasn't sold their radio to buy bread.

It would be interesting to hear unfiltered first person accounts.

Is there anything coming out from Venezuela similar to what "ferFAL" provided from Argentina, written by someone experiencing the crisis first hand?

trinity 03-15-2017 21:23

The misery continues:

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Venezuela threatens to expropriate bakers that don't obey new bread regulations

According to Roman poet Juvenal, people hope for just two things: bread and circuses.

While there is no word on the circus, Venezuela’s beleaguered government is demanding that bakers at least give the people bread.

The socialist government of President Nicolás Maduro threatened earlier this week to expropriate bakeries in Caracas that fail to adhere to new regulations aimed at tackling widespread bread shortages.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/03...gulations.html

Pete 03-17-2017 06:18

Venezuela has a bread shortage
 
Another article on the bread situation

Venezuela has a bread shortage. The government has decided bakers are the problem.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nati...#storylink=cpy

OGOTA, Colombia

"Facing a bread shortage that is spawning massive lines and souring the national mood, the Venezuelan government is responding this week by detaining bakers and seizing establishments.

In a press release, the National Superintendent for the Defense of Socioeconomic Rights said it had charged four people and temporarily seized two bakeries as the socialist administration accused bakers of being part of a broad “economic war” aimed at destabilizing the country...."

JimP 03-17-2017 07:24

Right out of ATLAS SHRUGGED.

Bakeries can't produce bread? Just have the government FORCE them....

That's some progressive thinking right there.

Badger52 03-17-2017 07:31

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Originally Posted by JimP (Post 625115)
Right out of ATLAS SHRUGGED.

Bakeries can't produce bread? Just have the government FORCE them....

That's some progressive thinking right there.

+1 They must have an ex-pat named Wesley Mooch advising them. Watch the experiment fail, kiddies - let's see if it ever makes it to the history books that make their way into schools (holding breath not).

trinity 03-17-2017 09:16

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Originally Posted by JimP (Post 625115)
Bakeries can't produce bread? Just have the government FORCE them.....

And if their business fails, they are de facto criminals and arrested as such and put on Venezuela's no-fly list. (I'll have to go back and find the article--it was linked from one of the other articles in this thread.

sfshooter 03-17-2017 11:36

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Originally Posted by JimP (Post 625115)
Right out of ATLAS SHRUGGED.

Bakeries can't produce bread? Just have the government FORCE them....

That's some progressive thinking right there.

Your right Jim, this story has already been written with the title of ATLAS SHRUGGED. I am currently in the middle of this book right now.

Team Sergeant 03-17-2017 18:16

Venezuela, end game....
 
Venezuela, can we predict what will be the tipping point? Where the people attempt to overthrow the current corrupt socialist/communist "leadership"?


I've not studied South America as much as other parts of the world. What's next a prolonged civil war?

SC Pete 03-24-2017 22:08

VZ problems
 
I am amazed at how far they have fallen. Worked there in the 80s, and while they had a big underclass, it was a modern country, with anything you wanted available. Good sized middle class. They were proud of their history, and always told you about their Constitutional Democracy...Heh. Look what the Commies brought you to. And look how fast our Hollywierd celebs abandoned talking about the "new way" in VZ. They can all go to hell. Get exactly what they asked for...

DIYPatriot 03-27-2017 09:59

Socialists Anonymous?
 
Isn't the first step to admit that one has a problem and that their life has become unmanageable?


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Venezuela's Nicolas Maduro has said he asked the United Nations for help in boosting his country's medicine supplies. Hospitals in the country are reportedly running on just 3 percent of the supplies they need. Maduro's admission on Friday that Venezuela was battling a crippling medicine shortage was a rare public admission of the desperate state the cash-strapped country finds itself in. "I have asked the United Nations to regularize the whole medicine issue," Venezuela's president said in a broadcast on national television. "The United Nations has the most advanced plans to recover the pharmaceutical industry's productive capacity."


Story Continued
Meanwhile, fourteen other countries urge Venezuela to re-establish a democracy...

Badger52 03-27-2017 10:15

"...regularize the whole medicine issue." = the whole world should gimme free stuff.

MR2 03-27-2017 11:04

Has it been a month yet? Ten fingers says ten months and carry a few toes is another week. Hmmm...

:munchin

Peregrino 03-27-2017 11:25

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Originally Posted by MR2 (Post 625611)
Has it been a month yet? Ten fingers says ten months and carry a few toes is another week. Hmmm...

:munchin

This could drag on a lot longer. Leftists don't admit failure or concede power unless forced to at the muzzle of a gun. Venezuela won't recover without bloodshed - a lot of it. I'm watching to see if I can recognizable the triggering event/tipping point when it happens and to determine if it's a unique event (special circumstances applicable only in Venezuela) or something with broad implications, replicable in other environments, that can be incorporated into a 21st Century "theory of revolutionary war" and put to practical application elsewhere.

trinity 03-27-2017 16:54

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Originally Posted by Badger52 (Post 625608)
"...regularize the whole medicine issue." = the whole world should gimme free stuff.

"The United Nations has the most advanced plans to recover the pharmaceutical industry's productive capacity."

Meaning, of course, that Maduro believes that the UN can and should seize the world-wide pharmaceutical industry and force them to provide medicines to Venezuela, gratis, as you said. Socialism at its "finest".

DIYPatriot 03-31-2017 07:15

Venezuela Lurches Toward Dictatorship as Top Court Seizes Power
 
Well, this sure escalates things.


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Venezuela slid closer toward dictatorship after the country’s Supreme Court gutted the only opposition-run institution -- the Congress -- seizing its powers and declaring the elected body invalid. The court’s ruling late on Wednesday night was, in the words of lawmakers, nothing short of a coup. Several opposition leaders called for street demonstrations and other forms of “democratic resistance.” As the once-wealthy oil power descends into a chaos of hunger and crime, however, it remained far from clear whether the increasingly despondent population will view the court’s move as a genuine turning point or just another step in the nation’s bottoming out toward hopelessness.

“This is not only going to cause alarm for concern within the region, but also actions, and at this point, it will be very difficult for countries to remain neutral,” said Carlos Romero, a political scientist at the Central University of Venezuela in Caracas. “The government is provoking; not only has it not made a single gesture toward dialog, it has become completely entrenched.”

Opposition deputies said they would appeal to international bodies for help. But that may yield little. Two days before the court’s ruling, the Organization of American States met to urge Venezuela to respect the congress that has now been neutered. The U.S. State Department condemned the Supreme Court’s decision on Thursday, saying the move "greatly damages Venezuela’s democratic institutions," according to a statement.
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Team Sergeant 03-31-2017 15:04

Venezuela Complete Dictatorship
 
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Originally Posted by DIYPatriot (Post 625775)
Well, this sure escalates things.




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I think that train has already left the station.......

Venezuela rule is now a total dictatorship. Castro, Mao, Stalin and Che would all be proud.

Badger52 03-31-2017 16:15

The international community will go a little batshit crazy (full-on batshit is reserved for their views of Trump, Orban, Le Pen, etc); there will be some candles lit, some diplomatic outrage, lots of hand-wringing & denouncements, followed by... nothing. Stick a spork in it, it's done.

Team Sergeant 04-12-2017 11:19

Just a matter of time...... and a few pallets of weapons
 
Socialist Dictator Nicolas Maduro your days are numbered. Just wait until the United States sends 10 pallets of weapons and ammunition to the "opposition". I'm sure sean penn will come and save you as soon as he's done shooting up.





Venezuela protesters throw eggs, objects at president during rally as unrest grows

By Alex Vasquez S.
·Published April 12, 2017
· FoxNews.com

Unrest in Venezuela went up a few notches in the last seven days, as protests against Nicolas Maduro’s government have become part of the daily agenda for the increasingly fiery opposition.

Demonstrators in Caracas were bombarded with tear gas from helicopters and police have not been shy to use their weapons — two 19-year-old protesters died after being shot and hundreds have been wounded, including a baby at a hospital that was hit by gas bombs.

“We have seen helicopters throwing bombs, collectives that encircle people and activate tear gas bombs [on them] — it happened to me,” said lawmaker Delsa Solorzano, who is among the victims of the government repression with a fractured rib.

Meanwhile, angry Venezuelans threw objects at President Maduro during a rally on Tuesday, as the unpopular leftist leader waved goodbye at the end of a military event. The state broadcaster then halted transmission.

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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04...est-grows.html

bblhead672 04-12-2017 12:07

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 626322)
hundreds have been wounded, including a baby at a hospital that was hit by gas bombs.

Someone in Venezuela needs to send Ivanka Trump a picture of the wounded baby and stand by for Tomahawks to arrive.

Peregrino 04-18-2017 12:12

We're getting closer!
 
This is going to get ugly. Reminds me of when Noriega formed the Di(n)gbats (Batallones de la Dignidad). They were bad enough oppressing the opposition populace but at least they weren't armed.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04...g-tension.html

Team Sergeant 04-18-2017 16:30

Time to kill heads of state
 
This communist dictator needs a dirt nap. Time to change the "elites rules" kill them first.


"Embattled Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro"

I don't think so, how about:

"Bottom-feeding communist dictator Nicolas Maduro"

Yeah that's better.
At least the left-wing news media is also carrying this story.




Apr 17, 9:06 PM EDT
VENEZUELA'S MADURO SEEKS TO EXPAND ARMED CIVILIAN MILITIAS
BY FABIOLA SANCHEZ
ASSOCIATED PRESS


CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) -- Embattled Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro announced plans Monday to expand the number of civilians involved in armed militias as tensions in the crisis-wracked South American nation continued to rise.

Maduro said he hopes to expand the number of civilians involved in the Bolivarian militias created by the late Hugo Chavez to 500,000, up from the current 100,000, and provide each member with a gun.

Speaking to thousands of militia members dressed in beige uniforms gathered in front of the presidential palace to mark the force's seventh anniversary, Maduro said it is time for Venezuelans to decide if they are "with the homeland" or against it.

"Now is not the time to hesitate," he said.

The announcement comes as Maduro's opponents are gearing up for what they pledge will be the largest rally yet to press for elections and a host of other demands Wednesday.

Thousands of Venezuelans have taken to the streets since the Supreme Court stripped the National Assembly of its last vestiges of power nearly three weeks ago, a decision it later reversed. At least five people have been killed, dozens hurt and more than 100 detained in the demonstrations.

The Maduro government has vowed to hold a counter mass gathering Wednesday in defense of the socialist movement started by Chavez.



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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...04-17-21-06-15

Badger52 04-18-2017 18:16

Would say time for some night letters, but looks too late.

Badger52 04-19-2017 16:25

2 dead after more demonstrations
 
Many pics and a few local accounts, courtesy RT.

Sean Penn was unavailable for comment.

Pete 04-20-2017 06:36

Word is getting out
 
And word is just getting out the government has taken over management of the GM plant.

I was a little surprised they hadn't done it sooner.

BrokenSwitch 04-20-2017 08:21

https://www.wsj.com/articles/many-po...sts-1492680607

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Until the slums rise up, Mr. Maduro will likely hang on, analysts say.

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Many slum residents in Caracas and across Venezuela, however, say they are only vaguely aware of the protests and too busy trying to survive to worry about changing the government.

More than four in five Venezuelans say they don’t earn enough to meet basic needs and three-quarters say they have lost an average of 19 pounds of weight last year, according to the Encovi survey by Venezuela’s top three universities.

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The lower classes have also been instrumental in giving the opposition alliance a record two-thirds congressional majority in the last electoral contest, held in December 2015. Polls show the poor would hand the government a drubbing in any vote held this year.

Yet that growing disillusionment hasn’t translated into organized protest, said pollster Luis Vicente León. Part of the reason, he added, is the opposition itself, whose predominantly upper-middle-class leaders have ignored the slums for years, believing they can oust Mr. Maduro or his predecessor Hugo Chávez by marching in opposition strongholds or triggering a coup.

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Without support in the shantytowns, many opposition supporters fear the current protests will end like the previous wave of unrest in 2014, when three months of demonstrations in middle-class neighborhoods left 43 people dead—without achieving any political change. The failure of those protestshas demoralized and fractured the opposition alliance for years.

“For the masses to come out, they need to feel that they are at a point of no return,” said Félix Seijas Jr., director of pollster Delphos. “We’re still some ways away from that.”

It sounds like the people most badly hurt by the current state of affairs are apathetic toward any solution that involves working within Venezuela's political system, because even the organized opposition doesn't offer them any help. The only remaining options are to rebel, leave, or starve, and this article is leaning toward "starve."

Meanwhile, the protests continue, seemingly unabated....


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