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Badger52 12-19-2018 15:18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete (Post 648413)
The Marxist regimes that have controlled Venezuela for the last 20 years have finally run out of other people’s money, and now those other people want it back....."
I'm thinking (laughing, actually) of a really good soliloquy from "The Goodfellas"...
:D

cbtengr 12-19-2018 17:21
I guess to big to fail is not in their vernacular.

tom kelly 12-19-2018 17:43
SOLUTIONS to the PROBLEM ??????
 
I think that the "problems " in Venezuela are self-correcting they will have an all-out civil war and the winner is ????? Not Socialism. tom kelly

CSB 12-19-2018 21:52
Oh wait, that was post #88, in 2017
 
I suspect that the advice "find the socialists and kill them" would be discarded as being simplistic.
Maybe next year.
If there are any free citizens of the country alive.

Badger52 12-19-2018 22:38
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSB (Post 648425)
I suspect that the advice "find the socialists and kill them" would be discarded as being simplistic.
Maybe next year.
If there are any free citizens of the country alive.
Such a good idea I'm stunned that someone hasn't thought of it before.
Triple intra-thread points on your Player's Club Card.
:D

Badger52 01-18-2019 13:03
Ahh, the old Article 233 trick...
 
Sportier times, and with many countries regarding the recent elections as illegitimate and recognizing the Venezuelan Nat'l Assembly as the only legitimate auth in Venezuela; we'll see how far Maduro wants to take this.

Quote:
It may be Venezuela’s last chance to oust Maduro — if Trump and others act fast

For the first time in many months, Venezuela’s dictator Nicolás Maduro finds himself on the defensive as a newly invigorated opposition mounts an internationally backed effort to restore democracy. It may be Venezuela’s last chance to avoid becoming another Cuba.

President Trump, alongside the leaders of Brazil, Colombia, and other Latin American democracies, could help expedite Maduro’s ouster if they move fast and declare Juan Guaidó — president of the country’s opposition-controlled National Assembly — as the acting president of Venezuela.

That could set off a series of potentially devastating events for the Maduro regime.
Full article at the Miami Herald HERE.

Flagg 01-18-2019 23:32
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete (Post 648413)
Five of Maduro’s Big Lenders Want Their Money Back. Good Luck.

https://www.thenewamerican.com/world...2563&vcid=8714

Get in there first before it's all gone. Well, it is all gone so they're going to be fighting over scraps.

"Five investment firms holding $380 million of one of Venezuela’s bonds demanded payment of both the principal and unpaid interest on Monday. This could be the trigger that unleashes an avalanche of claims by more than 40 creditors holding $150 billion of Venezuela’s debt.

The Marxist regimes that have controlled Venezuela for the last 20 years have finally run out of other people’s money, and now those other people want it back....."
A classmate of mine from grad school is a very experienced lawyer specialising in international recovery of assets/debts including debt owed by sovereign nations.

Some pretty interesting stuff.

She’s had all kinds of assets seized.

Maybe Venezuela has identifiable foreign assets worth seizing.

Flagg 01-18-2019 23:42
I recently finished an outstanding book called Covert Action:

https://www.amazon.com/Covert-Action.../dp/0393247007

A great read on President Reagan’s CIA backed non kinetic effort to support Solidarity and implode Communism in Poland, the Warsaw Pact, and eventually the Soviet Union.

What I took from it was the simplistic “good versus evil” capitalism versus communism battle of ideologies was successful when partnered with and supporting an indigenous freedom movement.

Hopefully the sme result is achieved in Venezuela.

However, with how long Zimbabwe was kept on life support under Mugabe and drip fed by China.....perhaps it may take much longer with subsidy from China.

My concern would be China looking at Venezuela like the US/UK did in 1953.

Monroe Doctrine be damned.

Ret10Echo 01-21-2019 14:03
National Guard soldiers "revolt" put down
 
Things continuing to spiral:

Quote:
CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — Venezuela plunged deeper into turmoil on Monday as security forces put down a pre-dawn uprising by national guardsmen that triggered violent street protests and the Supreme Court outlawed the opposition-controlled congress’ defiant new leadership
Story here

Look through the photos associated I noted two things:

1. A disarmed populace throwing rocks.
2. A well armed national police force.

Just an observation

Badger52 01-21-2019 14:06
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ret10Echo (Post 649147)
1. A disarmed populace throwing rocks.
2. A well armed national police force.

Just an observation
Democrat Socialists' wet dream.

tonyz 01-22-2019 08:53
Always remember, you can’t have a so called “socialist paradise” with a truly free and well armed citizenry.

Ret10Echo 01-22-2019 14:33
Meanwhile in neighboring Brazil:

Quote:
SAO GONCALO, Brazil (AP) — Fearing for his safety amid rising crime in Latin America’s largest nation, Paulo Alberto joined a gun club three years ago and learned to shoot. But he says Brazil’s tight carry laws that mean he can’t take his gun anywhere but to the club limit his ability to protect himself outside his home.

“The current laws are very strict and end up helping out the thugs,” Alberto said between rounds at the Calibre 12 gun club in this city across Guanabara Bay from Rio de Janeiro. “We need laws to make it easier to both possess and carry guns.”

It’s a view held by many, including Brazil’s new President Jair Bolsonaro. On Tuesday, Bolsonaro, a former army captain who waves to supporters with his hands in the shape of pistols, took a first step toward dramatically increasing the number of guns in Brazil, the nation that leads the world in total homicides.

By decree, Bolsonaro eliminated the requirement that aspiring gun owners justify to federal police officials why they need a firearm, creating instead a wide range of qualifying circumstances. The categories are so broad — citizens living in rural areas, those in urban areas with high levels of homicide, business owners, gun collectors and hunters — that just about any citizen age 25 or older wanting a firearm could effectively get one.

Old Dog New Trick 01-22-2019 14:47
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ret10Echo (Post 649163)
Meanwhile in neighboring Brazil:
How long before the homicide rate plummets and crime drops to historic levels?

Box 01-22-2019 15:26
How many times has it been said - "gun control has nothing to do with guns"

Central America - South America - North America - North Pole - south Pole - South Bronx - Bucking Broncs....

We might as well blame spoons for obesity.
If we controlled the size of spoons - fat people wouldn't be able to eat as much.
If we ban spoons, well - we'll all get skinny.

I mean for fuck sake - if you want to see a success story that correctly illustrates what a successful socialist society looks like - go no further than Venezuela.

Venezuela is NOT a failing state - at least not in the context of socialism - it is a socialist success story.

Ret10Echo 01-22-2019 15:50
Meh.... Who cares. According to O-C the LIKE world is going to LIKE end in LIKE 12 years due to LIKE climate change.....


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