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frostfire 12-06-2013 22:36

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Originally Posted by MtnGoat (Post 532565)
FOCA is great at "looking" at and within file. Metadata if you don't know what that is, google it. Pictures too, I saw one where they went onto three dating sites, LinkedIn and FB; all free accounts and every picture got all kinds of user information. The Metadata. The other funny thing, was all the pictures that picture block faces, "painted" over rooms, backgrounds and other things. Well FOCA "unpainted" all the pictures. It opened my eyes bigger than $&!#.

Thank you so very much for all these posts, MtnGoat. Yes, I was all wide-eyed too. Considering all the implications, that's scary *****.

When I perused those softwares, I didn't see much noise suppression though. Information is only as good as the knowledge one can extract from it.

I genuinely felt smarter going through and rereading this thread. As I delve further in the IC, I'd be grand to meet you and pick your brain barring OPSEC/PERSEC of course.

Ditto with Brush Okie on disinformation. Misdirection works well from the hand-to-hand level all the way to strategic.

Trapper John 12-07-2013 13:03

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Originally Posted by Brush Okie (Post 532594)
A thought here. Besides the ideas you have above (all good) how about SM web for information support for resources etc. For instance on the CA side how to build a sand filter for water and videos of your success and or information with links to gather intel. An example is the FBI most wanted but have a website dedicated with links, videos etc. Even a tip line of sorts ie email address to send intel from anyone that might have some.

You could have plans for building basic community projects, how to videos, etc etc. and even a forum section for people to post etc. This would be a type of collection point, PR, CA, MISO cyber point. It would also be a great big target for the bad guys and that in its self can be an asset when you give them a "target" their attacks can be traced. Also if the anti American folks want to come on we can even have some dialogue with them in a safe manner much like my earlier example with the SAS on Oman did.

I am far from an electronics guy but the server etc would be independent from government servers etc so if it did go down it will not affect the rest of the govt web sites.

Just kicking around some ideas that may sound nuts or be impractical but sometimes kicking around crazy ideas brings out a good workable solution. This coud even be done at team, company or Bn. level for a specific region, country or population within a country.

Once again, BO, we are thinking alike. (This is getting scary weird, so stop it. :D)
I was thinking almost exactly the same thing, but more in reference to Twitter.

I signed up for a Twitter account several months ago as an experiment to pulse attitudes, etc. particularly the 20-30 yo age group. One of the things that I noticed (or think that I noticed) is that as you post and develop a posting history, select folks to follow, and accrue followers, that Twitter segregates you into groups of of like minded users and isolated from the rest of the Twitterverse.

I doubt that SM can be used to mobilize protests or revolutions as was the original question of this thread. However, it would appear that SM could be useful in mapping groups that are potential assets or potential targets.

Might be interesting to try this as a little experiment.

MtnGoat 12-07-2013 17:44

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Originally Posted by MtnGoat (Post 532397)
Collection. The second step in the intel cycle is collection, includes both acquiring information and provisioning that information to processing and production elements. The collection process encompasses the management of various activities, including developing collection guidelines that ensure optimal use of available intelligence resources. Intelligence collection requirements are developed to meet the needs of potential consumers. Based upon identified intelligence, requirements collection activities are given specific taskings to collect information. These taskings are generally redundant and may use a number of different intelligence disciplines for collection activities. Tasking redundancy compensates for the potential loss or failure of a collection asset. It ensures that the failure of a collection asset is compensated for by duplicate or different assets capable of answering the collection need. The use of different types of collection systems contributes to redundancy. It also allows the collection of different types of information that can be used to confirm or disprove potential assessments. Collection operations depend on secure, rapid, redundant, and reliable communications to allow for data exchange and to provide opportunities for cross-cueing of assets and tip-off exchanges between assets. Once collected, information is correlated and forwarded for processing and production. (http://www.fas.org/irp/nsa/ioss/threat96/part02.htm)

So within SNA, how does the Intelligence collection requirement relates to mapping, understanding, analyzing and measuring interactions across a network of people? Social Networks, both formal and informal can foster a knowledge sharing among individual, groups, participants, and organizations. SNA collection of SM information lays emphasis on large scale distributed information of participants in SM networks over a period of time. Using SNA software ability to relate one message to another, one post on a SM platform to other posts, and capture data from identities, personalities, locations, content, DTG of postings and messages to chronology logs of all actions in a “community.” Yet we can’t just use one system like we have been doing with the fall back AnB or Palantir just because it is easy to use. We have to be able to use of different types of collection systems contributes to redundancy in analyzing what our specific taskings to collect information from SM. You should be asking, why do I need to be looking at SM for information? Just as with any collection process, for SNA you are encompasses the management of various activities in cyber, including developing the same things you would be looking for in different intelligence disciplines for collection activities. Just because we are cyber it doesn’t change the way we operate. Just as in HUMINT you would be doing the same things are you would on a street corner, now your café is online. SM is OSINT at the heart of it; but still must be balanced with other disciplines when possible.


Freely available Social Network Analysis (SNA) Software

(Keep in mind that most of these use and/or produce a EXCELL spread sheet, so it can be used in other software we have now)
Netdraw: http://www.analytictech.com/downloadnd.htm
NodeXL: http://www.connectedaction.net/nodexl/ (NodeXL at this time can collect data from your Facebook, Flickr, Twitter, or Youtube accounts and graph them.)
+++ YouTube Video: http://youtu.be/39yXz72qdow
Gephi: www.gephi.org (Can collect data from your Facebook, Flickr, and Twitter accounts and graph them.)
***Understanding Gephi: http://www.martingrandjean.ch/introd...ization-gephi/
+++ YouTube Video: http://youtu.be/bXCBh6QH5W0
ORA: http://www.casos.cs.cmu.edu/projects/ora/index.php (Go to the software tab to download)
UCINET: downloads | ucinetsoftware but you need NetDraw to network visualization.
Visible Path
FOCA 3.2: (great for Metadata obtaining/analysis) http://www.informatica64.com/foca.aspx. +++YouTube Videos: http://youtu.be/XVjZEijbekw

This is a good list breaking down of different softwares for your viewing pleasures. http://www.casos.cs.cmu.edu/tools/tools.php

Purchase available Social Network Analysis (SNA) Software. Just the better ones I've seem employed.

Maltego: http://www.paterva.com/web6/products/maltego.php. (I really like this software)
+++ YouTube Video: http://youtu.be/e33NSUkyEg0
NetMinwe4: http://www.netminer.com/index.php#! (Can collect data from your Facebook, Flickr, Twitter, or Youtube accounts and visualization them.)
+++ YouTube Video: http://youtu.be/9GZVhmZou_c

Examples of SNA Collection. http://s4rsa.wikispaces.com/Social+Network+Analysis

Okay this is going off something that a Trapper John posted.

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Originally Posted by Trapper John (Post 532651)
I signed up for a Twitter account several months ago as an experiment to pulse attitudes, etc. particularly the 20-30 yo age group. One of the things that I noticed (or think that I noticed) is that as you post and develop a posting history, select folks to follow, and accrue followers, that Twitter segregates you into groups of of like minded users and isolated from the rest of the Twitterverse.

Most of these software, websites and a lot of the other places you can go onto to play around use your account to log onto. IMHO do not use your real account and if you doing it from a mobile device make sure you have your GSP location turned off or go into your sets and change your location to another location manually.

MtnGoat 12-07-2013 18:32

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Originally Posted by Trapper John (Post 532651)
Once again, BO, we are thinking alike. (This is getting scary weird, so stop it. :D)
I was thinking almost exactly the same thing, but more in reference to Twitter.

I signed up for a Twitter account several months ago as an experiment to pulse attitudes, etc. particularly the 20-30 yo age group. One of the things that I noticed (or think that I noticed) is that as you post and develop a posting history, select folks to follow, and accrue followers, that Twitter segregates you into groups of of like minded users and isolated from the rest of the Twitterverse.

I doubt that SM can be used to mobilize protests or revolutions as was the original question of this thread. However, it would appear that SM could be useful in mapping groups that are potential assets or potential targets.

Might be interesting to try this as a little experiment.

As far as the Twitter, just go to BING.com and on the main page look for MAPS, then on the left side look for MAP APPS.. then scroll down and look for and click at TWITTER MAPS box. This typically will not work on mobile devices, not on my IPad. You can download the "app" but I wouldn't. Also, don't click this if your a daily twitter user unless you want everyone to see you. I say make a new account to look around in detail. You can just click on the bing twitter map, this will let you see every in your vicinity is tweeting about. If you are a FB person and leave yourself log on, didn't with BING (IMO) it will absorb your FB Account, so log out of FB before using BING IMO.

BING TWITTER MAP

Bing twitter map is more of a business "interface" app or feature. It is for business' to load it (link on their URL) onto their website for viewers to see what is being Talked about. I.E.: a resort loading into there web page you visit online.

So far as twitter there is a lot of business applications that can be used that will make you say wow!!

Look for a Imagery Metadata, people and posting photos. Got to love them. Especially people that do it from there work place. You just tweeted a pic of your computer desktop.. WTH?!?? There's more for this subject, Metadata later too.

[QUOTE=Trapper John;532651I doubt that SM can be used to mobilize protests or revolutions as was the original question of this thread. However, it would appear that SM could be useful in mapping groups that are potential assets or potential targets. [/QUOTE]

TRAPPER JOHN.. I'm think of doing a video to show somethings someone can do just with business apps or websites to see what people are "talking" about or posting there pictures. Which is nothing more that what many business are doing to drive up sales, bring in clients, or spread the word or to "hash tag" something they want pushed. If a business can get people talking about something, or get people following their "hash tags" or discussions. Do you think with your background and training think you could direct someone with the knowledge, and/or expertise in using trending "hash tags" for other means?

One thing to keep in mind, I guess this isn't just about the thread subject. But how you, IMNSHO, is/are being looked at by businesses in many ways. It's not all about your VIP Grocery key chain card, they can do it if you're big into SM platforms.

So with that, I'm a believer that we, SOF, and the military can use SNA in many ways.

Trapper John 12-08-2013 06:57

Holy Snoop n' Poop Batman!
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Do you think with your background and training think you could direct someone with the knowledge, and/or expertise in using trending "hash tags" for other means?
You have just opened my eyes to a whole new world of possibilities.;)

I've got some homework to do - really, really good thread Bro :lifter

MtnGoat 12-08-2013 09:10

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Originally Posted by Trapper John (Post 532738)
Holy Snoop n' Poop Batman!

You have just opened my eyes to a whole new world of possibilities.;)

I've got some homework to do - really, really good thread Bro :lifter

Business does it why no others, is my thinking.

MtnGoat 12-08-2013 13:51

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Originally Posted by frostfire (Post 532592)
Thank you so very much for all these posts, MtnGoat. Yes, I was all wide-eyed too. Considering all the implications, that's scary *****.

When I perused those softwares, I didn't see much noise suppression though. Information is only as good as the knowledge one can extract from it.

I genuinely felt smarter going through and rereading this thread. As I delve further in the IC, I'd be grand to meet you and pick your brain barring OPSEC/PERSEC of course.

Ditto with Brush Okie on disinformation. Misdirection works well from the hand-to-hand level all the way to strategic.

As far as the noise of the information, are asking if anyone uses the software and that the data is pulled in is so much and then you visualize it, you will see so much that it will be a bunch of dots and lines? So much that you really wouldn't be able to find any information out there. Is this what your saying?

Yes, to a point, but most software user can set the parameters. Also just for anyone that uses AnB or Palantir, you can control where, what and how you "pull" the data. So for me it is learning the software you are using and the user knowledge of that system. 18Fs don't use the ASK Kits we have with AnB. Then you have Palantir, where many 18Fs and MID people don't really know it we'll enough to use it effectively. This plays into one of the biggest issues with a lot of this.. User knowledge. This is where many say other people can do all of this. For me the people saying this aren't down at the tactical level, on the ODAs, CATs or MIST. So sending up a RFS to come MACOM or Nation level Agency takes time, typically over a week. Think about those CIOC RFS you submit online. How long do they take? This goes back to my thinking of adding the new cyber MOSs at the Battalion MIDs and even at some Company levels. Remove a ASAP or HUMINT position and add a heckler or cyber MOS there. We don't have this capability currently. Remember most of what SM is and doing SMA is a big form of OSINT. So your not losing a ASAP, we are gaining another INTEL assist position and can also be very Operational in means. Goes back to the BCT / FSC methodology, keep it internal for better and fast support.

Or you say that is data is bad you get bad visualization? Shit in equals shit out thinking?

If this is your thinking? This has always been an issue with all disciplines of INTEL. You get what others put into the system. Analysis job is to shift through the data to find what you have and can use. Visualization software don't always make is easier, but IMO it really helps. This is where a good Commanders Intent plays in with a solid collection plans come in too.

If these are not what your looking at please fill in. Expand on what your thinking too. THANKs

MtnGoat 12-08-2013 22:07

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Originally Posted by Brush Okie (Post 532867)
Going along with a specific target audience I was thinking of this.

As most of you know AQ has schools they call madrases that they "sponsor" poor kids and put them in their boarding school then brain wash them into their belief and strapping on a suicide vest.

As a counter to this we could set up web pages, twitter accounts etc etc specifically targeting this age group in Muslim countries countering this belief system, spreading what really happens there ie man on boy rape etc. and general intrest to this generation. Part of the problem is we are not looking past the next election and they are looking and the next generation and beyond for their recruitment and spreading their revolution.

Part of the problem will be these kids will not have access to the internet, so we set up an internet cafe type thing for kids in those countries. When I was a kid long long ago we didn't have home video games so we went to the Arcade. Set something like that up in local villages with internet access and even sell cheap computers or notebooks so that the kids can access the SM sights we set up. It is better to sell them for next to noting than for free because if AQ confiscates it or destroys it they are making an enemy of that person by destroying something of theirs instead of something that was free. It might take a few free ones to get started or occasionally. The site we set up would of course have free internet access and computers to access the internet.

IMPO this would be VERY hard to do. You can make people use the internet when they never have used it before. Most countries where AQ set up madrases, the kids are already uneducated and never even seen a book let alone a computer or laptop. Even with mobile cell phones, you have to have 3/4G coverage.

A lot of factors in what you're talking about here. I see this more as you are looking for a sect of population that is currently engaged on some kind of SM platform. From those people you can study, analysis and social engineer them through your SM post, Tweets, etc.

Did anyone go to the CTTSO/TSWG end of the year Conference? Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, spoke during the conference over the impact SM has today.

MtnGoat 12-09-2013 06:20

Okay keeping with the INTEL CYCLE and the Collection Phase of the cycle. I had to go back and look through my history and search YouTube, got to love YouTube, but I think these explain a lot of what I'm saying.

YouTube. OSINT - SM Footprinting

So looking at what is going on within Twitter Tweets, you can start seeing what individuals, people and groups are interested in. Can they be apart of some kind of movement within the community or country? From this to can start building how you want to "market" these individuals, people and groups based off what they are interested in. Most people call this Social Engineering.

Looking at 9:99 to 10:00 and how Ray talks about username and the ID is very interesting. For everyone thinking you change your username on SM platforms is enough, need to go here and listen closely.

Elisatation, can it be done via SM? Can you motivate people based off their interests from what they are Tweeting, posting or talking about? Something to think about.

The "Echo Chamber" part at 13:00-15:00 is interesting bit of informations. The WORDLE.NET is just in example of . Resume machines have this feature for looking at text and seeming which word are used more. But goes back to trending and what one person is "talking" about. Then how Ray ties it into a kind of linkage analysis software. He used CaseFile, but you can really use any analysis software that imports Excel files then visualize the Excel data.

One thing to take away from this is the fact that at 38:00+ He talks about some interesting tools. All of these are tools that someone made, most are free and online. Yes this is something that is outside of SOF, for now. Yet, can be made for a propose. Only left up to your mind. It's like the AOL client (app) BRIZZLY being used and was developed for end users needs, yet dropped by AOL a year or so later. Can someone build a client based off users trending and operating systems or devices? Needs to user to results? Just like the Bing Twitter Map, if you click on a Tweet location, you get the username, tweet information or text and what the are using (device) along with operating system. You have many different information here to use for many different means.

If you look at the statistics and how many are there, this is where I was talking about Lean 6 Sigma for people that know how that works for business. Taking that model for fixing a "problem" and turning it into an another.. Hummmm format?!?? Possibilities??

Now this second video is about 50 mins long.

Using Social Networks To Profile, Find and 0wn Your Victims

It discussions basically different of free software, but mainly websites that someone can use to find someone or how a businesses uses it to drive up foot traffic, sales, and reTweets. The speaker discussions how SM is used to target people and how you can use many different SM platforms for this.

After watching it, think about what he is talking about and how it can be used to "follow" people. Great on the different websites and use of social engineering techniques. Goes back to the question I posed, with our training can you influence people? All of what you do face to face is being done online right now by some many different people.

I'm not breaking down this video, I'll leave that up to the discussion. But after watching it, think about what your using; your wife, friends, etc. Do you change you user name for some reason? Do you have a linkage even if you change it? Now think about that and discuss it. Discuss how to "reverse engineer" that whole process and what you can do. Like I said, this is open to non- 18 series guys. I know there is likely people with a AI background.

I would ask that if you are making comments on one of the videos, please list the video in the comments subject box at the top. This would make it easier to know which one you're talking about. Hopefully you enjoy the videos.

frostfire 12-09-2013 23:06

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Originally Posted by MtnGoat (Post 532918)
IMPO this would be VERY hard to do. You can make people use the internet when they never have used it before. Most countries where AQ set up madrases, the kids are already uneducated and never even seen a book let alone a computer or laptop. Even with mobile cell phones, you have to have 3/4G coverage.

A lot of factors in what you're talking about here. I see this more as you are looking for a sect of population that is currently engaged on some kind of SM platform. From those people you can study, analysis and social engineer them through your SM post, Tweets, etc.

Did anyone go to the CTTSO/TSWG end of the year Conference? Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, spoke during the conference over the impact SM has today.

This might be over-enthusiastic optimism, but is it not probable the tech-savvy population segment can be polarized (shaped) to trickle down the message to the non-tech one?

We just have to put a convincing non-western narrative, appealing with "be good" Koran verses, and throw a massive tweet/retweet along with it. It's like Greg Mortenson reasoning to educate girls when in the culture, the boy needs to get blessing from the mothers to wage jihad.

MtnGoat 12-11-2013 06:18

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Originally Posted by frostfire (Post 533112)
This might be over-enthusiastic optimism, but is it not probable the tech-savvy population segment can be polarized (shaped) to trickle down the message to the non-tech one?

We just have to put a convincing non-western narrative, appealing with "be good" Koran verses, and throw a massive tweet/retweet along with it. It's like Greg Mortenson reasoning to educate girls when in the culture, the boy needs to get blessing from the mothers to wage jihad.

A bit off subject, but I think the key to the whole Madrassas issues with brainwashing and radicalization that goes on. One of the biggest boat we lost was the whole education of Afganistan. If NATO/US had built or set up more school is rural areas things would have been different after 10 years.


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