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Stras 08-31-2013 02:32

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Originally Posted by mike-munich (Post 520646)
Stras, I think it was Eichmann on Marktstrasse who made the sterling silver unit crests. As for the coins, I think there was another Juwelier/Goldschmied involved...

Mike,

Eichmann made the unit crests.. The other store that was across the Isar made the coins. It is now an Antique Shop, if I have the location right. Or it is the place next door with really fancy jewelry (and over priced), which is fairly new (last 10 years).

mike-munich 09-02-2013 00:23

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Originally Posted by Stras (Post 520985)
Mike,

Eichmann made the unit crests.. The other store that was across the Isar made the coins. It is now an Antique Shop, if I have the location right. Or it is the place next door with really fancy jewelry (and over priced), which is fairly new (last 10 years).

Stras,

then I recalled it correctly. The other store was across the bridge, on the left hand side I think. All is overprices in Tölz now, the Euro screwed everything up.

v/r
Mike

Utah Bob 09-14-2013 16:58

Glad you located the original.
I recall when they came out with them in Devens in 69. I still have 2.

jon1481 09-25-2013 18:14

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what does it look like?

swpa19 11-08-2013 05:09

With the early coins, weren't there two variations. One had just the Trojan Horse (like on Stras' avatar). And the other had the Trojan Horse DUI with the three lightning bolts?

orko 11-23-2013 20:03

I have done extensive research on this topic..

Robbins company of Massachusetts is accredited for minting the first 10th group coin circa 1967-1968. They are now merged with another company. It is said that 10th group has exclusive rights to the mold, however I contacted them a few years back with interest of having a couple made and after two weeks of searching the representative said they could no longer locate the mold. The gal did offer to make an impression mold if I sent in an original coin though.

The 10th group secretary has been using another company for the coins now for several years. I have seen the ones SFA has had for sale through the quartermaster in the past and there are many differences between them and known originals members have and carry. But If the original mold is found, And it can be authenticated I would be interested in having a current copy.

this day and age with all the fakes out there.... Just can't be too sure

longrange1947 11-24-2013 09:03

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Originally Posted by swpa19 (Post 529423)
With the early coins, weren't there two variations. One had just the Trojan Horse (like on Stras' avatar). And the other had the Trojan Horse DUI with the three lightning bolts?

When I got my coin in 68, there was but one design. Now I was at Devens when Col Greene did the coins, but do not know if another coin was made by Company A (later 1st Bn) in Germany. I left for 1st Group a few months later.

Stras 11-24-2013 11:01

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Originally Posted by swpa19 (Post 529423)
With the early coins, weren't there two variations. One had just the Trojan Horse (like on Stras' avatar). And the other had the Trojan Horse DUI with the three lightning bolts?

The only one that I've seen for 1-10th, has been the Trojan Horse with the 3 lightning bolts..

I have an SF DET EUR coin that has a replica of the Wooden Indian on it.

longrange1947 11-24-2013 12:26

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Stras, this is the coin I got in 1968 at Devens, it has only 1 lightning bolt.

Yes, that is my wife's, mine was "acquired" by another, but has my name on the back, waiting to have someone drop it on me.

Snaquebite 11-24-2013 12:42

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Originally Posted by longrange1947 (Post 531188)
Stras, this is the coin I got in 1968 at Devens, it has only 1 lightning bolt.

Yes, that is my wife's, mine was "acquired" by another, but has my name on the back, waiting to have someone drop it on me.

Mine's the same...

Stras 11-24-2013 12:54

1-10, 10th and SF DET EUR coins
 
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Here's a replica of the 1-10 coin, and original 10th and SF DET EUR coins

The 1-10 coin reads.

1ST Special Forces BN
10th SFG(A)


Below the Trojan Horse reads Bad Tölz

Looking back at this.. I think split with the two coins would have coincided with the return of 10th SFG(A) (minus Company A (later re-designated 1-10 in 1972)) to CONUS in 1968..

Does anyone have a 10th SFG(A) coin that reads Bad Tölz below the Trojan Horse?

Does anyone have a Company A coin of the 1968 - 1971 time period?

Stras 11-24-2013 13:03

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Originally Posted by orko (Post 531144)
I have done extensive research on this topic..

Robbins company of Massachusetts is accredited for minting the first 10th group coin circa 1967-1968. They are now merged with another company. It is said that 10th group has exclusive rights to the mold, however I contacted them a few years back with interest of having a couple made and after two weeks of searching the representative said they could no longer locate the mold. The gal did offer to make an impression mold if I sent in an original coin though,

That could tie in with the Group having the original mold story that I had heard back in the late 90's...

Interesting on your dates of 1967-68 for Massachusetts. 10th SFG(A) moved from Bad Tölz to Ft Devens in 1968.

longrange1947 11-24-2013 13:05

The split to Devens minus Company A, was before there were Battalions in Special Forces. Tolz had Company A, and Devens had Companies B, C, and D as far as line companies, there was also a Headquarters Company for support if I remember correctly. The companies were broken down into B Teams and A teams, now ODAs. That split began in 67 and finished in 68.

Stras 11-24-2013 13:09

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Originally Posted by longrange1947 (Post 531194)
The split to Devens minus Company A, was before there were Battalions in Special Forces. Tolz had Company A, and Devens had Companies B, C, and D as far as line companies, there was also a Headquarters Company for support if I remember correctly. The companies were broken down into B Teams and A teams, now ODAs.

you're correct. We have the photos on the wall that show circa 1972 the switch from Company A to 1st Battalion.

But I have found that it is easier to avoid confusion with some of the newer guys in explaining the history. then ease them into the part of Companies being Battalion size with an LTC for a Cdr, and team numbers that were single or two digit numbers, then evolved to three, and are now four digit numbers.

Still trying to get people to realize that the line companies were stationed at Prinz Heinrich Kaserne in Lenggries and not at Flint Kaserne.. Company A moved to Flint in 1968, after the Group moved to Ft. Devens.

Stras 11-24-2013 13:18

Wasn't one of the organization using the one pfennig coin (1931-1945) as a "coin"?


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