Rename Bases
 

There can be no surprise here, PC is way out of control as far as I am concerned. What shall we rename Ft. Bragg?


The Army secretary is open to changing the names of 10 Army bases that were named for Confederate leaders, Military.com has confirmed.

Secretary Ryan McCarthy will consider the changes if he has bipartisan cooperation from leaders at the local and congressional level an Army official told Military.com. Politico first reported the news about renaming the bases Monday.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/...C=eb_200609.nl

Let the names begin.... some suggestions:

Ft. Diversity
Ft. Inclusion
Ft. Unisex

Hell let's just de-fund the military too. Think of the cash we can move to dis-advantaged groups! :rolleyes:

Why stop at the military bases?

George Washington had slaves.

Let's erase the word Washington?

:munchin

I have mixed feelings about this. Irony abounds. For starters, Fort Hood, named after John Bell Hood is kind of a chuckle. Hood was a good example of someone rising to his level of Incompetence.

As far as I know, there is no base named after Longstreet who probably deserves it more then any of the others since he really did reconcile with the outcome after the war. Course the Confeds never forgave him for that. Yes, Irony abounds...

"His reputation in the South further suffered when he led African-American militia against the anti-Reconstruction White League at the Battle of Liberty Place in 1874. Authors of the Lost Cause movement focused on Longstreet's actions at Gettysburg as a primary reason for the Confederacy's loss of the war. Since the late 20th century, his reputation has undergone a slow reassessment. Many Civil War historians now consider him among the war's most gifted tactical commanders."

BTW, we should remember that the Union Vets at the time didn't exactly cotton to some of the reconciliation ideas...

“It Should Never Float Over American Soil”

Nick Sacco

During my master’s thesis research on the Grand Army of the Republic in Indiana I relied heavily on a Union Civil War veterans’ newspaper called The American Tribune. The paper was printed out of Indianapolis from roughly 1888 to 1906 and was edited by active members of the Indiana GAR during the postwar years. The paper is extremely hard to find on microfilm today and I was really lucky to have the Indiana State Library–one of the only places in the country where you can find it–within walking distance of my house to aid my research. Just for the fun of it I’ve been going back through some of my files and came across some interesting commentaries from the paper’s editorial page on the Confederate flag. Here are a few samples:

On May 29, 1890, a statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee was unveiled in Richmond, Virginia, along what is now called “Monument Avenue.” When reports suggested that Confederate flags were waved during the ceremonies, the John A. Logan Post No. 199 of the Indiana GAR issued an angry resolution condemning these actions as “disloyal and treasonable.” The Tribune gleefully republished the Logan Post’s resolution in full on June 27:

WHEREAS: The rebel flag was unfurled and displayed on housetops and in line of march, and used for the purposes of decorating in remembrance of the same principles that it represented during the years of 1861 to 1865, and

WHEREAS, The principles taught the rising generation by such acts are as wrong as that principle taught by anarchists and communists in carrying the red flag, which this government forbids. Therefore be it

RESOLVED, That we heartily endorse the sentiment of Gen [Daniel] Sickles on last Memorial Day unmoved by any rancor or spirit of hatred, God forbid, but we say as Union soldiers and the love that we bear for the stars and stripes that there is but one flag for the Americans, the flag of Bunker Hill, of Saratoga, of Yorktown, of Lundy’s Lane, of New Orleans, the flag of Washington, Scott, Perry, Jackson, Lincoln, Hancock, Grant, Hooker, and the flag carried victorious by Billy Sherman to the sea. The only flag that represents the right, and in charity we will not forget the difference between right and wrong.

RESOLVED, That in this country there is but one flag which represents the fundamental principles of a free government known and acknowledged by all nations of the earth, and while we respect the pride that animates the hearts of ex-confederate soldiers in historic valor displayed on many battlefields of the war and the sentiment which endears them to each other, and keeps alive in their memories the many scenes of hardships which they shared together, we sincerely condemn any attempt to resurrect from the buried past the emblem which represents a bad and lost cause.

RESOLVED, That the stars and stripes represent loyalty and the stars and bars represent treason, the same to-day as they did from ’61 to ’65, and we deem it the duty of the authorities at Washington, irrespective of political parties, to forbid the display of the stars and bars on any occasion, and this we do in memory of those who so heroically gave their lives that the Nation might live.

From an editorial entitled “Our Flag is There” on January 7, 1892:

When Gen. Lee surrendered to Gen. Grant at Appomattox, the latter would not accept Gen. Lee’s sword, and he included within that surrender a provision that all the Rebel officers should retain their side-arms. That courtesy of Gen. Grant expressed exactly the feeling of the great generous heart of the North toward the defeated and conquered South. Southern poets have written ballads and Southern women have sung of the sword of Robert Lee. This is all as it should be. But when Gen. Lee surrendered to Gen. Grant there was no provision made that the flag of slavery and secession should ever be retained, either as a souvenir or standard. It represented something that cost this country a million of men and many millions of money, and at Appomattox its bloody folds should have been furled forever. War relic or no war relic, it should never float over American soil.

A month later the paper lamented how many Northerners (and Democrats in particular) embraced what the paper called a “forgive and forget” sentiment that accepted the continued flying of the Confederate flag (“Still Pandering to Rebels,” February 4, 1892):

The Northern Dough-faces and the “forgive and forget” sentimentalists are largely responsible for the manner in which the “relics of the lost cause” are nursing emblems of their treason and are still laboring to make the same respectable. In poor old Missouri they have societies called “Daughters of the Confederacy” whose invitations to their balls and receptions have a Confederate flag printed in colors on one corner; and the principal of the leading military school in that State [Alexander Frederick Fleet, Sr. of the Missouri Military Academy]…advertises the advantages of his school with the picture of a late major-general of the Rebel army in the uniform of a rebel, and this officer was a graduate of West Point, resigned from U.S. Army in 1861 and fought for the Confederacy.

This sort of thing is becoming too common and the President should call a halt and order the officer now on duty there to his regiment, and require the arms to be turned over to the ordnance officer at Jefferson Barracks. It is high time there was a law forbidding the Government of the United States from furnishing teachers’ ordnance, or in any way aiding any institution of learning which seeks to perpetuate the principles of or honor the so-called Confederate Government.

All these comments make you wonder what these guys would think about our debate over the Confederate flag 120 years later.

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Bottom line is you can not rewrite history. The left is hell bent on trying to rewrite everything. This is a stupid idea.

Well, since there is no "The" Confederate flag you would have to first explain to them (modern people) all the different flags that were in use.

You could fly more Confederate flags than you could shake a stick at and most folks wouldn't know what they were.

But when talking about "THE" flag we know they are talking about the ANV Battle Flag.

It includes eradication of anyone who can pass history along via stories & writings as well.

Some day the old folks are going to have to sit around a fire while someone is banging a drum in the background telling stories to a young child about how one time before them the United States was a divided states and then they were re-United States after a really big war that left many dead and many homeless - not homeless by poor choices but because some white dudes burned their houses to the ground to set their employees free.

But, before the nights over with they are going to have to explain again how the United States got divided by inclusive woke folks that had everything to live for except freedom to choose which schools to go to and decided to burn to the ground the very cities and houses the white folks had provided to them for free. Again many homeless peoples and former employees now without a job because this time it only took non-violent protest and not a war to change how people think.

You see lad, that’s what 150 years of racial equality gets you - Peaceful protest, not war can divide a nation that was once United twice before.

Left will never be happy until the rope is around the neck of everyone and everything is destroyed.

CD

I feel oppressed.....The Liberals just want to rewrite history and shove it down our throats. No wonder the young today are so ass backward; they are taught BS. It's history, it happened so learn from it. Rename bases, it'll confuse the F out of everyone.

Virginia Taxpayers are going to be paying a fortune to expunge reference to confederate officers from schools, public buildings, streets, parks...etc....etc...

Anybody remember when the Army went to the standardized two-tone brown for buildings and signs and painted over the massive murals on the Division barracks?

Let's just roll it way back. Let's see how many people celebrate Independence Day this year. If the colonies had not rebelled and won then slavery would have been abolished and gone by 1843...

Perhaps D.C. should be bulldozed into the Potomac as it perpetuates the memory.

Stalin and Mao had good success rewriting history...

Lets not say "it doesn't work" just because it wont work in "our" favor.

The left is a treasonous movement. They have had treason in their heart for close to two centuries now.

9 out of 10 of today's youths would say "we have bases?"

Rename all the bases - tear down all the non PC statues - and after a feel good moment nothing will change.

Those who remain chained to a past they never lived will never be able to move forward.

"It has been suggested that we should rename as many as 10 of our Legendary Military Bases, such as Fort Bragg in North Carolina, Fort Hood in Texas, Fort Benning in Georgia, etc. These Monumental and very Powerful Bases have become part of a Great American Heritage, and a history of Winning, Victory, and Freedom. The United States of America trained and deployed our HEROES on these Hallowed Grounds, and won two World Wars. Therefore, my Administration will not even consider the renaming of these Magnificent and Fabled Military Installations. Our history as the Greatest Nation in the World will not be tampered with. Respect our Military!"
-Donald Trump