I met one of your bros on a contract in the FLA panhandle last month. He had visited you at WR and gave you major props when speaking to me. Your attitude speaks volumes for you personally and for the brotherhood writ large.

Good one.;)

cacti joe
 

great letter on the 2nd. during the looting during several of the hurricanes here in florida i confronted looters in my hood with my m-16 with 30 rd mag. they got the message. well regulated militia me thinks. don,t think muzzle loader would have gotten the job done.

Looks as if Chuck Norris is going to start checking under HIS bed for Crip. :eek: :D

When Chuck Norris wants to kill something he asks Surgicalcric if he is ready to step up.

Add my name to the petition
 

In the Peoples Republic of New York we're further along the rest of the country. Confiscation starts in earnest in April 2014. If you have PTSD or almost anyother psych label, your guns are gone. Walmart already has software programs in place to record every bullet you buy. You won't get pistol ammo without a pistol permit. My grandaughter's Remington .22 Viper is illegal in NY! She can register it now. Just makes it easier for them to conficate it next year. This is not hearsay. I have a copy of the law sitting on my desk. It's pretty ugly and it's going to get worse.

Well done
 

We need to get this signed by as many as we can.

I went from laughing to tears.

Somebody picked on the wrong girl...GLOCK advertisement.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=l6Ik8...%3Dl6Ik8qDR1SI

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Poor guy, he was probably just abused as a child. She should have just tried to talk it through with him. A hug really helps in a situation like this.
</sarc>

"To limit the Second Amendment to muskets would be the equivalent of limiting the First Amendment to writing with quill pens. " Anonymous web poster

A link below to an organization (and links to reportedly 800 Mayors) that might benefit from reading the letter in the OP.

http://www.mayorsagainstillegalguns..../members.shtml

I like this post...
 

One of the comments on our letter on NY firearms.com.


"The Green Berets are good people to have on your side."

Everyone is on your side during the hurricane...
 

It's surprising how much safer our neighbors feel when we who govern ourselves and maintain our weapons are around during those times of emergency, yet have no idea "what possible reason" there might be for us to own them when the media hype begins. Perhaps this letter will bring some of them back to reason.

Outstanding letter gentlemen; it has been further disseminated.

-SD

I felt almost a sense of obligation to include this letter in a reply to my Congressman whom I've been in contact with recently. So I did :D. I'm not as well versed as you all are in these matters, and my writing style needs some polishing, but here is the reply to my Congressman I just sent out:

Congressman Hoyer,

I want to thank you for your response to my email. I would also like to present a few counter-arguments to some of your statements. Let me start with your initial statement of, and I quote, “The shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut have compelled the nation to reexamine how we can avoid such a senseless tragedy from occurring again.” I will try to be brief.

To me, as a constituent, I fail to see why it took a mass shooting to spark the outcry of an Administration who prior to this event, did not seem to attend to the plethora of communities and victims lost to gang violence, stabbings, rape, drugs, people being struck and killed by drunk/drugged drivers, people killed by distracted drivers, etcetera. I understand everyone wants the senselessness to end, but being realistic, none of the proposed resolutions regarding firearms themselves will curb any of the aforementioned crimes to include crimes where a firearm is used.

I agree with more thorough background checks; however I disagree with [quote] “banning assault weapons and high-capacity magazines”. The term ‘assault weapon’ itself is very misleading. Just because a firearm in its appearance, looks like a military or law enforcement issued firearm, it is not. Anyone can dress like a duck, but that does not make them a duck. A determined assailant can do just as much damage with 3 ten-round magazines as they could with a thirty-round magazine with little to no training. Even if firearms were abolished altogether, that would not stop criminals who are committed to do harm from illegally obtaining firearms to completing that goal. There are several examples around the globe that echo this statement.

I believe, as do many others, that the problem lies with so-called ‘gun control’ itself. Obstructing law-biding citizens from their inalienable right to possess arms just empowers criminals that much more to commit crimes. Most of the crimes which involve firearms occur in heavily legislated, gun-free metropolitan areas, and outlying areas. There are statistics from various sources which verify this. There are also other statistics that can be interpreted in either direction; be it in favor of further gun control, or against gun control in its entirety. My question to you Congressman Hoyer, is how are you interpreting these statistics, and how are you representing your constituents who have the common-sense approach of further gun control not being a viable solution?

I would like to propose solutions, however a more eloquent proposal has already been written by, and signed by, over one thousand active duty and retired members of the elite military organization, the United States Army Special Forces; also known as ‘Green Berets’. I have attached their open letter titled “Protecting the Second Amendment” to this email. I challenge you to read this letter, and to ponder the facts and solutions suggested therein.

In conclusion, I want to thank you again for your taking the time to read my correspondence, and I look forward to your reply. This is a very turbulent time in our Nation, and any decisions regarding the Rights granted to us by the U.S. Constitution should not be acted upon forthwith without due diligence and considerations of all the facts. Have a great day.

Sincerely,

XXXXXX

Well said!

The FBI UCR shows 12,644 murders took place in 2011. 323 of those were committed with rifles. That's only 2.5% of all murders and those were committed with every type and caliber of rifle. (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...e-data-table-8) Some states collect more detailed information on semi vs. bolt vs. lever/pump rifles that would identify the number of semiauto rifles used in murders. In my state, less than a quarter of the rifles used in murders were semiauto (no information on what type of semi was collected). If we assume that 1/4 of the 323 rifles used in murders in 2011 were semis, there were less than 80 of these rifles used in murders, or 0.6%. Six tenths of a percent??!? This tiny number can't rationally be the basis for national policy or legislation.

The UCR Five Year Trend graph (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...offense-figure) shows that violent crimes dropped by 220,000 since 2007. This drop has occurred while the very firearms proposed for banning have become more and more popular for recreation, competition, hunting, personal defense. More importantly, both have occurred while the rates of murder have dropped since the expiration of the AWB. These out of date and out of touch politicians with their out of date and out of touch proposals want want to reinstate the failed AWB of '94 regardless of the data showing their solutions will not reduce violent crime rates. This can’t rationally be the basis for national policy or legislation.

The murder rate is at the lowest point in a generation, this has occurred since the failed AWB expired, the firearms to be banned and their magazines have become more popular for law abiding citizens and politicians can’t come up with any new ideas for identifying the root cause of violent crime and murder or for identifying real meaningful changes that will reduce the rates of murder or violent crime. There's no risk basis for trying to prohibit law abiding citizens owning, purchasing, or selling these firearms and their magazines.

Once again you gentlemen have done a service to the nation.

It's about natural rights...
 

One man's thoughts on the subject at hand in a 2 minute YouTube video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4n8e...layer_embedded

Great video.

I agree, it's about natural rights.

Some people "get it".

Looks like we are not the only ones with a letter.

I like the way this is headed.

Grassroots!

TR

Great letter...my favorite line (amongst so many great ones):

How tasty was that $44 million dollar turd? :eek::rolleyes:

Agree, fine letter. I don't think they ever intended to get any push-back from someone who can be articulate, given their view of the peasantry they want to control. Such assumptions can be a critical mistake.

Geez. They're still using typewriters in Saratoga County? :eek:

Pat

Nothing like NY polecats :rolleyes: :mad:

- Gov. Cuomo

- State Sen. Eric Adams when finding out that NYSAFE does not explicitly exclude LEO

Hmm, if this has nothing to do legitimate gun ownership, and a state senator admits that criminals don't follow laws(duh!) even though the entire intent of the bill was to prevent criminals from doing just that, then who does NYSAFE apply to?

New York Serfs Against Feudal Empires - we all know it's about control.

Well said
 

I have been sending this letter on to others who need to read these well written lines regarding the rights that are ours. The challenges to the Constitution are more fierce than ever, and we have sworn an oath to protect and defend this Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. I did not cease believing the oath when I took off the uniform and never will. Thank you.

To the QP's who drafted and signed the letter, thank you! I have sent a copy to all of my representatives (UT) in DC and I've encouraged many others to do the same. I also sent a "thank you" letter to my county Sheriff (for drafting and signing the letter from the Utah Sheriff's Association, and a link to the letter from the QP's.


"Honorable Senator Hatch,

Regarding the attack on the 2nd Amendment and the American people, I urge you to read this letter (below)from a group of over 1100 U.S. Army Special Forces soldiers (Green Berets, who's 19th SFG(A)is HQ'd in Utah). It is the one of the clearest explanations and most compelling statements in favor of protecting our natural right to keep and bear arms that I have read. I agree with it completely and ask you to fight for this cause against President Obama, Vice President Biden, Senator Feinstein and all those who seek to attack this right. I thank you for reading my email and the attached letter.

Earnestly,
Michael Hayter"

(letter copied and link attached)

I've had one or two folks (out of hundreds) question the authenticity the 1100 signers.
Ladies and gent's the signers were not SOF (Special Operations) personnel, they were Special Forces soldiers. There is only one unit in the United States military called Special Forces and they are also known as the "Green Berets". This letter was signed by over 1100 "Green Berets". More have asked to sign it but we took down the website.

Currently there are hundreds of former, retired and active duty "Green Berets" on this website. But please don't take my word on the subject, if anyone doubts we didn't have over 1100 please speak up and allow the hundreds of Green Berets on this website to answer. Everyone that has a "Quiet Professional" title on this website is a verified Special Forces soldier, aka a "Green Beret". Feel free to send any of them a message and ask about the letter.



Also hundreds of you have joined in the last 72 hours and are about to post for the first time. Before you do go to our rules section and read it again.

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...ead.php?t=3452

If you wish to post on this board your first post should go into the "Introductions" thread. This allows the other members to get an idea of whom they're speaking with.

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...ad.php?t=36757

If you take a look around this website you'll notice a few things, there's no advertising and we don't sell anything. This website is dedicated to the Special Forces soldier, it's a website for us to discuss and catch up with old friends. As a courtesy we opened up the forums to the general public to interact and ask questions. That said we have very little tolerance for trolls or trouble makers. You don't need to agree with us, in fact we enjoy a spirited debate, all we ask is that you keep it civil.
Team Sergeant

I proudly signed it!

Signed it.

A proud signer!

Yep...Signed it :lifter

I signed it!

Another proud signer


CD

TS, I caught a blogsphere post covering this and the owner remarked, with some perception I thought, that one ought not to necessarily take the number of signators as the sole benchmark. Rather, aspiring despots ought to consider those still out there who didn't get to sign it at the time for whatever reason. Most of the glacier is under the surface kinda thing.

That was worth a :cool:

Also, it's gratifying to see that some are starting to focus on the balanced nature of what was actually suggested - words matter. A position with substance & suggestions as well. That is a good thing.

Over 1,100 signatures were collected in about 60 hours. There are MANY more who if given the opportunity would have gladly signed it. This was done in VERY short notice and we did very well. :lifter

It's a shame that some of the more radical sites are using it to promote their agenda and it is to be noted that we do not support those agendas.

signed it.

Excellent - thanks to all involved.

Yep...Signed it :D:lifter

Would have signed it, given the opportunity and guarantee all of my SFA chapter (79) would have signed. Our most popular scholarship fund raiser was an M-4 carbine raffle. That being said, as you may recall, Homeland Security sent out a memo a few years ago listing potential domestic terrorist groups to monitor. Military veterans and groups were prominently listed. With quite a bit of backlash and little to no apology. I believe this was done based on our obviously vocal willingness to uphold our oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Signed it.

One of my favorite comments about the statement so far was:

Those Green Berets don't just have our six, they have our 360!

As I'm reading through this thread I cannot help but think how proud the Colonel and Big Teddy would be.

This was my letter to my Congressman. I'm still working on the letter to the Lt Gov of IL who wrote about how she comes from a hunting family. :rolleyes: