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tonyz 02-18-2014 22:32

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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004 (Post 542287)
Not an expert on Thomas Jefferson, but I would interpret it that what he was referring to were countries without representative systems of government for the most part. Remember, the United States was the first republic since Rome. And the idea of representative government that the U.S. pioneered was viewed by the European elites at the time as an experiment that would end in grand failure. The beauty with representative government is that if enough people to stage an armed resistance become severely displeased with the government, that likely is enough people to just vote the politicians out of office.

Ever hear of the 3% ?

PSM 02-18-2014 22:47

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Broadsword2004
To quote Josh Waitzkin in Searching for Bobby Fischer, "You've lost; you just don't know it yet." ;)

Pat

tonyz 02-18-2014 22:54

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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004 (Post 542290)
Not familiar with that term.

Goggle it - simple to find info but basically refers to the fact that the American Revolution was fought (by about 3% of the population) against the King with a number of patriots - far less than a number sufficient to "vote" him out of office...the phrase has taken on a modern life of its own - alluding to the perhaps small number of firearms owners not willing to ever surrender to oppressive governmental regulation of what many consider a God-given right.

The state of CT and the Hartford Courant are forcing a confrontation with a percent, perhaps even a small percent, of otherwise law abiding people willing to fight in defense of the Constitution.

I do hope that the State of CT does the right thing and repeals the registration requirement and that the Hartford Courant retracts their call for registration and prosecution of ordinary, law abiding citizens.

tonyz 02-18-2014 23:51

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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004 (Post 542294)
Ahhh, well in any resistance, you will probably have a fraction of the population that is doing the actual war fighting, at least due to logistical issues. But that doesn't mean it's only 3% that would support the resistance. 3% of the American population would be about nine million people, that would be a pretty sizeable force. And it could be larger in terms of people who carry out things like sabotage and so forth but don't engage in direct fighting.

Anyway, don't drill too deep or you may miss the forest for the trees.

This thread is basically about protecting a right - long revered - and enshrined in the Constitution.

The most recent flurry of posting activity has been in relation to CT's hastily passed and ill-advised legislation requiring the registration of arms currently in everyday use.

The people of CT (or most of the people, who own such weapons - reportedly not an insubstantial number) in an act of defiance have spoken - peacefully - in a widespread act of civil disobedience.

In response, the "big" newspaper in town has essentially called for prosecution of otherwise law abiding folks who basically just wanted to be left alone.

The lines of conflict have been drawn. The sides are clear - and history has shown that registration leads to confiscation.

The state of CT and the Hartford Courant are forcing a confrontation with respect to supporters of the Second Amendment...otherwise law abiding citizens who became "criminals" overnight...can't you see the relationship between this situation, the current political environment and the quotes provided to you?

The state, the media and other enablers are poking the people in the eye...not to mention running afoul of the Consitution.

Tempers gonna run hot.

ddoering 02-19-2014 06:46

It comes down to whether you believe the Constitution is the supreme document that established and continues to be a guide for our country or if it is an old, outdated document written by and for old white men and is not relevent in the modern world. I know at least one of the SC justices thinks the later.

Stiletto11 02-19-2014 08:42

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Originally Posted by ddoering (Post 542307)
It comes down to whether you believe the Constitution is the supreme document that established and continues to be a guide for our country or if it is an old, outdated document written by and for old white men and is not relevent in the modern world. I know at least one of the SC justices thinks the later.

Read The Tempting of America by Judge Robert Bork and you will understand why the SC Justices believes the later.

TFA303 02-19-2014 09:51

As this thread's initial subject was the "Protecting the Second Amendment" letter, that letter and this discussion raise a question that I've been pondering here.

1,100 "current or former Army Reserve, National Guard, and active duty US Army Special Forces soldiers " signed that letter, and more certainly would have. Are the principles stated in the letter representative of the majority of currently serving SF personnel?

I think that SF soldiers would be more likely to make a career-ending stand on principle than the average troop, particularly in the officer and senior NCO ranks. But I don't know y'all intimately, and I do know human nature makes it much harder to make a decision like that.

pcfixer 03-06-2014 23:02

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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004 (Post 542290)
Not familiar with that term.

3%'s "Mike Vanderboegh The alleged leader of a merry band of Three Percenters"

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogsp...-women-of.html

Supposedly this email was sent out to all the Connecticut State Police

Max_Tab 03-07-2014 08:47

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Originally Posted by pcfixer (Post 544344)
3%'s "Mike Vanderboegh The alleged leader of a merry band of Three Percenters"

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogsp...-women-of.html

Supposedly this email was sent out to all the Connecticut State Police

This guy is very articulate.

Dusty 03-07-2014 11:57

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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004 (Post 542295)
We will just have to agree to disagree :)

Loser. ;)


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