HK P2000
 

Anyone here had a chance to use a P2000 yet?:munchin

TR

We have one at the shop, it is the S model I believe, rather than the SK subcompact.

It feels good and shoots pretty well. The LEM trigger is a bit long, but very smooth and rather light for a DAO setup. The sights they use are different from the USP models if that matters to you, and they use a conventional "Univerasal" type rail rather than the proprietary HK rail found on the USP (But you already knew that). I have seen these pistols with a traditional DA trigger and a Decocker mounted on the rear of the slide also, if the LEM trigger is not your preference.

Not much more info than you could find in the HK Catalog, but HTH.

YMMV

Good times,
Blake

Good info, Air.

You mentioned that while they do not advertise it, you can get the P2000 with the DA/SA trigger and a quite cleverly concealed decocker, for those that require it. The SA is one of the best I have ever felt on a non-match HK.

I agree, it feels very nice in your hand and points very well, especially after you install the correct backstrap for your hand size. It also has a nifty built-in lanyard loop.

As you noted, it will accept accessory lights, like the SureFire without requiring an adaptor. In fact, I have it on excellent authority that it will take the same DG switch as the SIG, requiring only a little extra effort to depress the mag release. It takes the same mags as the USP Compact.

It does need night sights, and is not available (yet) in .45 ACP.

It is entirely possible that some recent pictures of such a set-up may be in my possession.:D

TR

OK - Quit fishing for comments/compliments. :p Those of us who were paying attention saw the "background" for the flashlight photos on Crips thread. (I would have commented then except Eagle had already laid down the law and I wasn't up to my usual "Bull in a China Shop" best.) It is a nice piece - we need to go to the range and see what it'll do - probably even take the wife to see what she thinks. (For those of you who are wondering at the previous statement - finding a pistol the wife will actually carry is a real bitch - and the P2000 has some ergonomics concessions to fit it to the shooter that might actually interest her.) Like I said - nice piece. And the trigger was surprisingly good out of the box. Makes me wonder how it'll feel when it's broken in. Put the night sights on it and get some good leather while you're at it. Peregrino

Sean:

I was wondering why nobody mentioned the appearance of the mystery pistol.

Among the ergonomics are completely ambidexterous controls and a set of backstraps to fit the user's hand. It has a built in trigger lock which is very unobtrusive, should you need one.

I am dry firing it 100 times per day, the trigger should be broken in pretty quickly. Rumor has it that Santa is bringing more .40S&W plinking ammo, since I burned up my last with the SIG 229.

The Trijicon night sights and Kramer MSP in Horsehide are already on order. Ho ho ho! :D

TR

Nice Setup TR.

Perhaps If I get to feeling Froggy, I'll post some pics of My latest shiny thing(s)

Take care all

Blake

Well, if you want shiny, I think I'll show these before you get yours out.

I call these, "Not the budget, just the best".

TR

You keep digging further into that "can of worms". :rolleyes: Now you have to explain what's wrong with the ammo that's so prominently displayed. (Just keeping you honest :p ) Peregrino

P.S. - And I know where to go the next time I need some quick studio shots of "playtoys".

The ammo is the LeMas .40 S&W LEO rounds, why do you ask?

I think that I am doing pretty well with a 3.2 MP point and shoot camera that is over a year old.

TR

Where the hell is Team Sergeant? We all know what's coming! :munchin :D

WHAT????

There is a great review of the HK P2000 in this months Shooter's Test by Guns and Ammo.

BTW:
Bollocks on all you geezers with me layin down the law...someone has to keep you rabble rousers from showin off in EVERY thread :D

And nice snaps there Sir...as always

Eagle

Bollocks
Do you need a refresher in Cussing 101 ???
I'll be dropping "Cussing for Dummies" for you in the mail.

Nice piece TR, you're on your way to moth-balling your 20th Century collection......:D

Nice piece TR, I shot one in a course just over a month ago. I liked it enough to think that .40 wasn't so bad and that I could adjust to the polymer frame. As you may have guessed from my previous thread, attaching a light is also gaining in appeal.


Yes, Team Sargent, I am well behing the technology curve in handguns. My favorites were designed a long time ago in Utah.

Not till it has several thousand rounds through it.

But I am thinking about using it as my first non-1911 carry gun, if it runs right and shoots straight.

It is about the same overall size as my Para P-12, and holds the same number of rounds, but I do not like trading 13 .45 rounds for 13 .40s.

Maybe they could make a .45 GAP version with the same capacity, but I doubt it for engineering and for marketing reasons.

Can you see the ad for an HK pistol chambered for the .45 Glock cartridge?:D

Mumbleypeg, I am with you.

TR

I know it is not a H&K but Springfiled just released a XD chambered in 45ACP. Holds 13+1, has the 1911 grip angle and the grip is smaller than the USP and G21.

//hijack

TR Sir (and others too),

I know you've probably thought of this, but it might be a good idea to put disclaimer on your pics. Random losers might steal those photo to sell gun accessories depicted in the picture, or put them on militaryphotos and claim "SF weapons" etc. etc.

It's been discussed before and I'm not the sharpest tool in the box on this one, but perhaps some html working can have posted pics automatically stamped "propery of PS.com..." This, of course, may generate a complain from a certain member who sometime post her anatomy:)

//end hijack

Tried modifying picture in powerpoint, copy to paint, and save as jpeg. Unfortunately, the result is cr*p

Seems adobe photoshop layering is still the easiest (but need photoshop:()
(copy and paste)bellaonline.com/articles/art33862.asp

All we need is a watermark, and I do not know how to do that.

Besides, I'm not doing this commercially, so all marking the pics does is to let us know that we have someone here who needs to be banished.

Hey, Eagle, here are spare 10 round mags (fine for plinking) for 14.99 each.

http://www.cdnninvestments.com/hk2.html

TR

Plinking is fun :D

Eagle

Not to hijack the thread but, that wouldn't happen to be an Eagle Maritime CIRAS as the backdrop in your photos would it Sir? Just curious... Nice pics as usual. Nice weapon as well. I really need to get something to "plink" with.

Crip

Good eye, young Jedi.

Do you have any questions about the MAR CIRAS?

TR

In an effort not to hijack this thread anymore than I have already, I moved my response and created another thread in the Professional Gear Forum here.

Crip

I bought the HK P2000 for my wife!
 

TR,
Its a pretty good pistol, fairly accurate.... my wife has shot almost 1000 rounds through it and not one malfunction.... very easy to field strip.

Nice pistol TR! I am looking at getting one of those for my gf. It fits her hand well and she likes the trigger.

My question is about caliber. I know there is nothing wrong with 9mm (especially with good ammo), but I'd prefer she have a 40. She has gone shooting with me a few times and while she can handle my P12-45 very well, she wasn't digging the G23 we rented. She shoots 9mm well too, but I was wondering if anyone has shot the P2000 in both calibers side by side? How sharp is the 40 recoil?

We have looked high and low for a P2000 to rent, but no joy. She is also interested in the Para LDA guns, but likes the feel of the HK better.

Thanks,
Kev

I've shot both, side-by-side. Muzzle flip more noticeable in .40 cal.

Since your girlfriend doesn't much like the G23's impulse, she'll may find the 40 cal. P2000 similar -- I did. She may end up using the 'small' grip back-strap, which would also alter the "felt impulse". P2000 is a 25 oz. (empty) polymer frame handgun, and bears a higher bore axis than the G23.

I choose the 9mmP, because my shooting was better in placement and time with the P2000 in 9, compared directly with the .40 cal P2000

My basic handgun philosophy is that defensive pistol calibers are all underpowered, and placement is the prime determinate. I always practice more with the 9mm, due to economical ammo. ( just so you know my bias )

-Seth

That also depends on the ammo..... but I would assume the same conclusion that Seth came to just based on caliber.


El Cid,
If she shoots 9mm well, get her a 9mm. I doubt she's intending to go toe to toe with terrorists and accuracy is much more important than caliber.

TS

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LOL! Thanks guys. She also shoots 45ACP really well which is why I was looking at the .40. I didn't know if the recoil reduction (plastic tubular thingy) on the HK made it feel better than the G23 or not. :)

Glad you posted the link TR! I purchased my first 9mm last night.....USP Elite. :D

I've looked around for a while trying to find the 18rd magazines. I placed the jet funnel kit on it and it's pretty damn nice. Only problem, it doesn't take the standard 15rd mags with the jet funnel on it and I only have two 18 rounders.

My third USP and the most fun so far. Plus it's cheaper to shoot.

So far the best grand I've spent this year. :p

Now if I could just pay off the Rock River AR I have on hold at the gun shop. My job there lets me get everything at cost and seeing as it's my part time job it all goes back into the store. I keep telling myself (and the frau) it's all worth it.

Did you notice the "specials" section of CDNN? They have the white 18rd mags for $59. Up through last night you got a free 10rd mag with any HK hi-cap mag purchase.

Damn....Damn....payday can't come quick enough!!!!!

I caught that. Good prices too. I'll see what the store can get'em for first. :cool:

How's this? I added a watermark image for ProfessionalSoldiers to the converter I use on the site I am in the process of building.

http://www.us-mil.com/watermark/resu...2206_p2000.jpg

Everyone can run them through the converter on my site, and get a fairly decent watermarked image for use here. Remember to bookmark it so you can find it easily.

This one was done with settings of: LEFT, TOP, 50%.

After you have uploaded the image,
check the watermarked images page,
click on the 'thumbnail' to get the full size watermarked version to open in a new window,
and copy the url from the new window to use to upload it here through message attachments.
Don't use the image as a link to drive up my bandwidth (thank you),
Do try to remember to delete it after you are done with your project.
Don't mess with other's images if they leave them there a little while.
If you want a new or different watermark for here or a different site, let me know.

I hope this will work as an interim solution for you. I will keep an eye out for a more automatic solution for you.

Enjoy...

TR,

Is it possible to get a P2000 in Variant 1 so that it can be carried cocked and locked, or is the first round always going to be double action?

Thanks.

There is no manual safety, so while you can carry cocked, it would not really be safe.

I miss that as well, but like the SA/DA much better than the LEM. I suppose that you could thumb cock it, should you wish to.

As most shooters will tell you, a good consistent trigger pull is one of the most important factors for mechanical accuracy.

TR

P2000..............?????
 

I purchased mine about 2 years ago, and still haven't got used to the trigger, so it sits in it's case in the safe! I opted for an H&K USPc in 9mmx19. I would sell the P2000, but no one seems to want it! Another design that has gone overlooked or just another design? :)

You are surely correct, you don't need that hunk of junk. How much do you want for me to take it off your hands and dispose of it. :munchin

PM me.

I find the DA/SA trigger on mine among the best I have tried, but what do I know.:rolleyes:

TR

P2000 & Kramers
 

T Too bad I didn't know, I would have HAPPILY taken it off your hands. Her in the PACNW, gun stores have them on backorder because they can't keep them on the shelves for more than 1-2 shifts of the counter.

I, in fact have just returned from the range with my launchers and found the P2K trigger to be both smooth and easily controlled. The recoil was easily handled (shooting 185gr) and was much more comfortable than either my Sig 229 or my S&W 99 (Walther P99). I put 500rds through it, shot 3-4 inches left of center for the first 150-200 rounds, then found my mark, and was well grouped center mass for the remainder.

The ergonomics were perfect for me. Comfortable and non tireing. I will say though that I was hit in the nose by brass twice. Perhaps it has more to do with the size of my snotlocker:D .

I am also sold on Kramer holsters-thanks gents for all the input and advice. The IWB #3 is comfortable to the point that I forget it is there and the MSP Paddle hugs nicely as well as haveing a short below the belt profile. The paddle is deep and stiff enough that the belt loop accessory is truly and option and a belt is not entirely necessary to unholster the weapon. I purchased the USPc (.40) for my P2K and it fits as well as my IWB #3, which was purchased (and is stamped) specifically for my P2K.
The workmanship is outstanding. These holsters are not as pretty as Milt Sparks' products, nor are they as flashy as the "Alessi Hand Rubbed" leather line-but they are well made, comfortable to wear and I believe they will be functional long after the luster rubs from the others and the Alessi begins to scuff.

In short-I very mush enjoyed my first session with this HK offering-the Kramer holsters are an excellent pairing for a complete carry package.

Eagle

Got my new Kramer MSP for the P2000 this week as well.

So far, I love it! Great carry rig.

Now I need a QD flashlight/spare mag rig that matches.

TR

Ummmm..QD???

If you would like, I can check the local gun store where I picked up my gear. All I need are the specifics of what you are looking for.

I paid $77 for my IWB (Horse) and $92 for my MSP (Cow). Both new in package.

Eagle