NREMT-P for 18D?
 

I keep hearing rumblings that the schoolhouse may get back the ability to grant NREMT-P certification to 18D's (just read it again in the other paramedic thread in this forum)... Does anyone on here have any first-hand knowledge of this? If this rumor is true, how would this affect guys who have already gone through the course but did not have the chance to get NREMT-P certified? Would we be grandfathered in and given the chance to test?

Thanks in advance!

I am currently in the course now. When we first arrived we were told that anyone past or present who is 18D certified will be given the equivilant associates degree, sometime within this comming year, in an unspecified area... Come next monday I can have the details on what that is, and also a direct answer to your question about emt-p.

Thanks for the help! I'll look forward to finding out more.

-Ender

Associates degree??? In what? "Special Operations Medicine?" From what accredited college?
Please do shed the light.
I would find this most interesting...

Eagle

I had the oprotunity to talk to Col. Olivito today, who is basicly the big cheese when it comes to the socm portion of the course. As it stands right now EMT-P is currently not being sponsered by the school. But the school house is expecting promising results sometime next year to be allowed to give that certification out. (not set in stone)

Concerning the college education. Tentativly next year you can be awarded an associates in an undetermined medical feild, what it will be is still under negotiation (Some kind of medical technologies degree as the rumor goes.... Not sure what that would actually entail) Cambell University is who the school house is working the issue through.

What the schoolhouse is actually trying to do, in addition, is get certified as a junior college, which leads me to beilve that we will actually be the ones to award the degree, worth 64 credit hours. Also stated though was that when you have completed the course you can attend classes at Cambell University to work towards your bachlors. This basicly sums up everything he told me, but i also have a contact number for the man in charge of some of the programs run through the school that i will send you via pm. Any other 18D who are interested i would be more then happy to send you as well. I just hope the guy doesn't get a train load of phone calls...

Also don't get the impression that the college credits are set in stone eaither. But I was reasured that it will be more likly then not.

"Allied Health," is what our class was told.

Hey D9, I'll try and catchup with you about this as we haven't been told anything and I would like to know, as would a few class mates I'm sure.

I would consider this strictly as RUMOR until someone graduates and has it in hand.

Eagle

Hey ender18d,

I left there this past Aug, I was an instructor with SOCMSSC. This was a common question so I will share what we found out; It all depends if your class was eligible for NREMT-P or the SOCOM Paramedic. I assume by your question that you were awarded the SOCOM Paramedic. If so you may register and take the NREMT-P written/practical exam BUT they will not grade it. The reason is at the time you went through the course it wasn't recognized by the NREMT and it is required to have attended a recognized program.
At the time I left there were negotiations with the Registry so that may happen again. As far as being grandfathered that remains to be seen. If I hear any further I will communicate.

I appreciate the info! Yeah, I got a SOCM Paramedic card... hopefully they will work out a way to grandfather us in at some point!

-E

Hell I am hoping the course atleast will qualify as a refresher so I can get my Registry card back. Mine expired a little over a year ago... dammit.

I tried to get into a SFMSSP class but the 1SG over at SOPC wasnt having it...soooo...

Crip

Well, not everyone takes a year to complete SFAS.:munchin

TR

It actually only took 4 weeks to complete Sir. I did however take 9 months to get there... healing and all... :D

Crip

Not to quibble, but from the Army's perspective, your arrival time at Bragg, till you completed Phase I, was the time it took you to complete SOPC and SFAS, unless you had another assigned school in route.

We have high hopes that you can be a first time go at Phase III.:D

TR

I can barely put a Band-Aid on a small cut correctly, so I'm by no means trying to dispense professional medical advice, but IMO I'd be less worried about civilian certifications and more concerned about learning as much as I could to be an asset to my team and their efforts. Uncle Sugar will underwrite your permission to practice far more medicine at your level than you ever would be allowed out of the Army with your NR card.

Anyone know the record on longest stay as a student at SWCS? I don't, that's why I'm asking.

:munchin

I have seen guys at SWCS as students for as much as 36 months.

I figure a couple of late recycles for young Crip, and he can break that. After all, he has finished Phase 2 of 6 and he is past the one year mark already. As long as he doesn't get injured again:D

TR

Records were made to be broken. :D

:munchin

Glad to know I am thought so highly of around here... lol.

Razor: As to my NR cert... Gotta get it back or I will be out of a civilian job when I do finish training. I am just trying to plan ahead. ;)

Crip

Wait, does that mean you aren't staying on the teams? For shame......:boohoo

Have a good christmas brother.

I am a NG guy. When training is over I am going back to Ft Livingroom until my unit deploys, unless I leave my FD job and pick up something more interesting... I hope I make the 2007 deployment.

Merry Christmas to you as well.

Crip

You don't need to go back to the FD; just keep recycling the phases and time it so you finish the course just in time for a unit deployment. Given your history, no one would be any the wiser. :D

Oh yeah, Merry Christmas. :)

Just a heads up...
 

I'm in the process of trying to get into the University of California. I'm currently attending a community college and have an advisor from Berkeley...

I was only awarded a total of 15 credit hours, for all the training I attended while in the military.

Hopefully this info helps some you guys out.

Take care.

New to the forum but wanted to share my expierience as far as the NREMT-P thing is. I was in Phase III from 2004 to 05 and we recieved the SOCOM card but told us they were working on getting back whatever it was they needed for us to able to take the NREMT-P exam in the soon future along with the associates degree. Long story short, when I graduated the course I filled out the application had to get it filled out at the schoolhouse along with signatures from the EMS director and the Medical Director, sent it in with my money and it got sent back with a letter saying our course was not approved and therefore I could not take the exam! I called NR and they told me to call AMEDD. I called AMEDD down in Ft. Sam in TX and talked to the head of the EMS certification dept. who empathized with our situation and has had numerous calls about this topic but said their hands were tied and that suggestions have been made to the schoolhouse to get them back up to par to be able to test the NREMT-P. He told me I needed to call the EMS dept. of USSOCOM in FL and talk to them to see if this topic is being looked at or changed, which I did but the person I needed to talk to was not in at the time (CPT Briggs). The phone number is on the back of the SOCOM paramedic cards! I also read an interesting article on the internet from the SOCOM medical director just recently that stated they are going away from the National Registry standard and more towards the Combat Medicine Approach, which makes me think they will probably not go back which makes since as we need the medical training on what we will expierience in war more than civilian side of medicine and its protocols. But it does seem a shame that when a 18D gets out of active duty whenever they choose, or have to, that even though they went to an CoAEMSP approved Paramedic course, they will only be able to work as an EMT-B unless they go through a whole new program. So much for making a long story short, sorry! Just wanted to shed some light on the Picture that it has not happened as of yet!

Hi. Welcome aboard. You need to do a couple of things (I'm in a really good mood, some Brothers called the Wrath of God [not allah, God] down on a terrorist asshat today).

First of all you need to fill out your profile. Then read the rules and all the stickies. Then you need to go to the Introductions thread and introduce yourself.

And please, please, please - use paragraphs.

NREMT-P
 

I was reading up on the 18D forums and came across this one that I have some but un-verified information.Realizing that I am a Volunteer firefighter/EMR in Jacksonville,Fl; I come across SOCM students from all branches.

Usally our(civilian) EMT-B through EMT-P are required for "ride a long" and clinical training before they test for NR. We(firefighters) are under the impression that you(18D students) were here for experiance and NR requirements.I come across the instructors every now and then and I will try to confirm my info ASAP.

It isn't much input though it might be some what helpful. By no means am I trying to step out of my lane,understanding that I am only a DEP and not a soldier.

You should have stopped here. Period.

We do not deal in hearsay, rumor mill, scuttlebutt, I heard that she said that her cousin was sleeping with a family member of one of the guys who failed out of the course garbage...

Got it?

Eagle

Understood.No excuse.

Your hopes weren't misplaced Sir; first time go.

Which one of you lost the bet on my recycle? :D

Crip

Holy Necropost, Batman!

What are we at Crip, 31 months to complete the first three phases?:munchin

TR

I arrived here on Bragg for SOPC-1 on 11 October 04. That makes it 28 months Sir.

Damn I have been here entirely too long.

Crip

Crip,

When you graduate, can ALL of us come to help you celebrate ?


;)

RC201

Congrats J!


LOL, better yet...what was the bet? :munchin

Good on you Crip!!

Are you asking me?

I have no clue, but I wouldnt put it past a few to have a pool going, on my odds of recycling something, in the back room. :lifter

Crip

LOL no, I figured you wouldn't be in on that part...just the reason for it. ;)

Since we'll all be retired by then and not have anything else to do... :p

Invitations will be forthcoming.

Crip

Congratulations. Way to persevere!!!

Just talked to the instructors there, and here is the latest "no bull" poop. Just in the last two days, Mr. C said that the national registry is allowing 18D's now to test for the paramedic. This just came down. Couple of rules though

1) you have to pay for it yourself, and study yourself
2) They are backdating it up to two years
3) You have to had graduated SFMS no longer than two years ago.

Since that last one is the "catch" Mr. C is trying to get them to recognize SOCMSSP as paramedic refreshers....when that happens, anyone who is an ATP and stayed current with SOCMSSP will be able to get NREMT-P.