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What do you carry in your second line?
When I was in, I used the regular old web gear with 4 mag pouches, 2 canteens, and 2 compass pouches.
In mine I carried: 6 mags, 1 canteen cup, 1 stove r. handside compass pouch-compass r. handside ammo pouch-minimag, motrin/meds l. handside ammo pouch-leatherman, BFA, small bottle of CLP, lighter, small medic scissors, tripwire, heat tab, cammie stick, electrical tape, l. handside compass pouch-2 field dressings, eng. tape, vs-17 piece and a s. mirror. I had the earplugs in my r. canteen pocket and my water pur tabs in my left canteen pocket. I'm sure I'm forgetting something. :rolleyes: These days for my gear I carry all the above in a RACK or other chest rig, plus small e-trex gps surefire 6z (replaces minimag) strobe radio sometimes also a talkabout flares chemlights additional med gear 550 cord misc e&e gear-space blanket,trashbags,etc. spare batteries folding saw I add or subtract med gear/survival gear depending on what I am doing. I have my pistol in a dropleg and my SRK on my belt. Sometimes I'll add my leatherman and my surefire to my belt depending on what I am doing. Just wanted to hear what some of the other folks carry in their second line. Always looking for new ideas. |
I'm currently using a HSGI Watsach in it I carry.
On the back Camelback 100oz Emergency Blanket Poncho 100 ft 550 cord 4 inch Elishewitz Benchmade 1 MRE On the front and sides Compass Surefire 6z or M-2 Extra batteries Garmin E-trex Flagging tape Ranger Love beads Leatherman Leather Gloves Smatchet Lighter, Matches, Magnesium (sp) stick steel wool, fire starter sticks (I can't IIRC proper name) 100 mile tape small bottle CLP Large Game Bag Trash bags Motrin 8's Strobe And I'm looking for a VS-17 panel anybody know where I can pick one up? Ya, I know I should trim it down but I want to be able to sustain several days to a week if I have to survive on it. |
25th ID, late 80s, we all had the same gear and all wore it the same way as per the Division CSM! ;)
Standard LBE w/ 2 mag pouches 2 1 Quart canteens 1 First Aid pouch w/pressure dressing 1 Compass 1 E Tool in Carrier fixed to the center rear of the belt 1 Standard Mil angle head flashlight I think if the CG let him he would have done away with the 60 and Saw gunners so we could all look the same. Weighed 42lbs, w/blanks in the magazines |
Other then to go poop, I never used an etool while I was in the army.
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Neither did we, but thats how it was in legland. Never use it, weighs a lot, but carry it all times anyway cause the CSM said so. In the 24th ID we kept them on our rucks, which stayed on the track. :D
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Tracks, M113s, sometimes we did put them on trains. You never sleep do you? ;)
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Never taken incoming Snea, I mean NDD.....;)
Never dug a hide on Ft. Lewis either. Too many rocks in the ground, ya need a real shovel and a pick. |
LOL - I dug a four man fighting position on a gravel location in about 30 seconds with my barehands the first time I hear them launch one at a drilling rig. There was natural gas leaking all over the place.:D
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Ammo Water Radio Bayonet Poncho E-tool Compass/Map Leave the chow behind, thats what your enemy is for.:D |
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The thread about the Soldier's Load has a link, if you follow that to the list of what soldiers in the Box are carrying (about page 33), it might help with another perspective.
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My lame attempt at humor has gotten me nowhere:D |
Here in Iraq, Im wearing an SDS RACK. I picked that one since it was Govt Issue. Heres what I carry on it:
6 Magazines (I was issued 210 rds basic load) PVS14s with BII 3x attachement for the 14s Mini Mag light ICOM Radio Compass 2 field dressings Sheath Knife 1qt Canteen Case for Oakleys Drop leg pouch for expended mags Camelbak We where issued the MOLLE FLC, but I think that piece of kit sucks. We are kinda limited on what we can wear in the 82nd, but so far the CSM either hasnt noticed the RACKs many people are wearing or he doesnt mind. Hopefully, back at Bragg I'll be able to continue wearing the RACK. |
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With 12 mags, radio and smoke grenade it sticks out about a foot on each side of me. With plates in it, its absolutly unbearable with the shoulder straps that come with it. Anyone have any ideas on how to make it padded? As far as pouches I have a strobe and 2 grenade pouches on the bib, and 2 paraclete GP pouches on the sides plus a TT 3 mag pouch for my pistol mags. |
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The reason why it sticks out so far on either side is B/C it was designed to go over IIIA body Armor. Thats why there are no shoulder pads. Talk to Gene the owner (IIRC) at HSGI he is a great guy, he'll talk your ear off but he is a great guy. I ordered mine when he first started production of the Watsach, back then he was talking about adding removable shoulder pads. I don't know if he has started making them or not. On another note did you get my last PM about (3 weeks ago) |
Got the PM, thought I replied. Bottom line is that asking the Gringos for help is keeping the issue dead in the water. As far as padding I have an old set of BQM alice pack add on strap pads that Im going to try and see if it helps out.
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a configuration front and back http://www.geardo.com/images/EGL/eggwas2.JPG http://www.geardo.com/images/EGL/eggwas3.JPG |
Egg have you carried that config?
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What have you guys done with your excess shoulder strap material?
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taped it, did not cut it off - want to make sure that I can wear it over an OTV.
GAP - nope, just on a weekend jaunt, that was the before pic - folks wanted to see a wasatch bashed out - for carry, it sucked, had a 3L storm in the back pocket as a counterweight, worked fine, but I am going to be building some foam padded strap covers for the rig. EGG |
Sign me up for a set!
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PBR-I know you from mil.com, right?
What is.... with BII..what is BII? ICOM Radio Compass.... Not familiar with that...a compass and a radio? Drop leg pouch for expended mags..... I use my rack leg pouch for that too..... Camelbak...... small one in your rack? Or a big one on your back? |
BII - Basic Issue Item, all the extra stuff that comes along with something that has parts, i.e. the sling, magazines, cleaning kit and BFA for a rifle. -10s usually have this list in the back (note to self: convince CSA that Rangers should learn to read ;)).
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What's a -10?
;) Why do I need to learn how to read? There will always be some college boy ossifer around somewhere. Razor, you familiar with the ICOM radio compass? |
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Where did this "first line" "second line" come from? Seems to be all the rage.
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First line is your Bowie and Walker, and the stuff in your pockets 2d line is your Cartrige box, bayonet belt and cap pouch 3d line is your haversack and blanket roll. That clear things up for you? :D |
I know what they supposedly are. What I want to know is when did they get to be called that and where it came from.
You really do want an avatar don't you? |
I smell a Johnny Depp, Gay Pirate avatar being readied!
Avast there, ye' landlubbers! Har!! TR |
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Did GAP's post hit a little close to home NDD? I thought it was funny. :D
Here ya go GAP.... |
Now your going to make me go find a TV and VCR, go thru a credit check to rent the movie to see if Im offended.
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Let's see......Johnny Depp.....Gringo Butt Pirate... Psywar.....Gringo Air Pirate...... Close enough? You make the call! ;) |
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Second Line/L2 Gear
What do you carry in your second line?
Here is what I carry in my second line, suitable for an old FOG living and fighting for a brief period with the gear. HTH TR 2nd Line Gear MLCS w/ SAPI Insert and the following pouches: 3x3 M-4 mags 4x M-9 mags Radio Pouch w/ Radio 1st Aid Pouch with 1st Aid supplies Loppy 2x Frag Grenades 100 oz. Hydration Bladder w/ Ziplocs and trash bags in sleeve Medium Paraclete Zippered Pouch and Fugly for Misc. Items Below: (Need an insert/organizer for the Paraclete pouch) Silva Ranger Mini-Vise Grips, Pointed 550 cord 20’ Trip Wire on spool Snare wire DMT Diafold sharpener Otis Cleaning Kit Small tube Graphite Lube Mini Snap Links Survival Saw ½ Hacksaw Blade wrapped in 100 mph tape Surefire 6P with High Output bulb and IR Filter Spare batteries Camo Stick with 100mph tape wrap 6’ Bug Juice Survival mosquito headnet Signal mirror Aviator’s Signal Panel Pen Flares Chem-lites MRE Spoon with electrical tape wrap 1’ Butane Lighter with 100mph tape wrap 1’ Magnesium stick with flint striker Platypus 500ml bladder Water Purification Tabs Lickies and Chewies Toothbrush Emergency fishing kit Space Blanket Hand Wipes Cravat Toilet paper from MRE Pack Permanent alcohol pens Attached to MLCS: Pace count beads Strobe Mini-Binos GPS Smoke Grenade Survival Kit Gloves Snap Links, 2 12’ 1” Tubular Nylon Webbing |
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I hear ya KTEK....
Reaper, Damn Sir, I have seen pics of your MLCS elsewhere on the site, but I didn't know you carried all that in it! That was the kind of info I was looking for when I started this thread. Thank you. After reading that, I have to ask, what are you carrying on your person/1st line? Do you use a multi-tool? |
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