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WarriorDiplomat 01-24-2021 19:22

Military purge coming
 
"Lawmakers move to oust extremists from military | TheHill" https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5...m-military?amp

PRB 01-24-2021 19:33

Political thunder not lightning..... another one hour mandatory tng event.... feel good crap.

Joker 01-24-2021 19:57

All training can be conducted via computers or virtually. All troops should be mandated to live in the barracks so we can do away with the team rooms, company areas, Bn HQs. All work will be done online. Modern congressional thinking...

Razor 01-25-2021 09:16

I want to believe it's nothing more than additional training and purging the workspace of anything personal, but knowing what info is currently collected to feed the semi-automated continuous evaluation process for security clearances, combined with the recent social media scraping campaign on ARNG troops in DC, I'm not so sure this new focus on finding 'extremists' will be mostly benign.

TOMAHAWK9521 01-25-2021 09:40

I’m trying to figure out how there are no howler monkeys from the media or congress calling for her head after hearing about this? I imagine there would have been a “Trump Impeachment Trigger-‘Level 1 Event’” if he had even been shown a machine gun while visiting the troops, let alone said something as stupid as Pelosi.

https://dailycaller.com/2021/01/19/k...-machine-guns/

Flagg 01-25-2021 23:55

A political reliability purge to consolidate power, pushing lower down the org, seems like a possibility to match the growing politicisation of senior leadership in recent decades.

I never would have expected to see mutated variants of communist party political commissars in western forces.

What is completely absent from the recent conversation about overstated right wing extremism risk in the US military is the very high public trust ratings earned by the US military and to a slightly lesser extent the 14k mostly local law enforcement agencies in the US.

The target of the Left in 2020 was ‘racist law enforcement’.

The target of the Left in 2021 is ‘insurrectionist right wing military’.

Meanwhile, public trust in Congress and Mass Media is only 1/4 to 1/6 that of the military and most local law enforcement.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/1597/co...titutions.aspx

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...most/39663793/

Penn 01-26-2021 00:18

To institute a new social system, socialist based, you must have the total support of the military. If they are able to accomplish that, the next step is the 2A, and we are toast.
Thinking about the speed in which they react to secure their advantage, it would be of little surprise to see them rapidly rolled out authority of the military. Agency is to have a plan, the SDP has always been in a fall forward failure position, while those who believe in a fair turn and the belief that we are all Americans is viewed from the SDP position as a competitive advantage.

Ooh, a storm is threatening
My very life today
If I don't get some shelter
Ooh yeah I'm gonna fade away
War, children
It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
War, children
It's just a shot away

Edit to add: They monitor this site daily.

Badger52 01-26-2021 05:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penn (Post 666521)
Ooh, a storm is threatening
My very life today
If I don't get some shelter
Ooh yeah I'm gonna fade away
War, children
It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
War, children
It's just a shot away

Edit to add: They monitor this site daily.

Thanks for that. Now I'll have Keith's ES-355 intro to that in my head all day. Much better than gas-station island music.
;)

7624U 01-26-2021 06:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat (Post 666479)
"Lawmakers move to oust extremists from military | TheHill" https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5...m-military?amp

Won't do anything about street gangs.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/...ort-shows.html

Old Dog New Trick 01-26-2021 07:38

It’s not too amazing to have seen this yesterday in the news but, they managed to take an old sentence or maybe it was a small paragraph from a study done in the late ‘90s during initial assessments and background checks to justify what they are attempting to do now. I’m paraphrasing from memory here:

The old sentence read: Extremist groups and Cartels and those with ties to Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs (OMG) and Ethnic Gangs (Bloods, Crips and MS13) attempt to join the military to acquire specialized military training and weapons training to advance their skills.

Yesterday’s read: Extremist groups and those with ties to white supremacy groups, and militias attempt to join the military to acquire specialized military training and weapons training to advance their skills.


It’s a good thing we don’t have to worry about drug cartels, OMG’s and MS13 in the ranks anymore...that’s a relief. Just those pesky white people and those that have a dislike for sharing their shower with someone who doesn’t know if he’s a she or she’s a he.

I heard the new SecDef last night...he sounds like a real company man!

Remington Raidr 01-26-2021 07:53

According to a lesson of history . . .
 
Uncle Joe Stalin EXECUTED those he considered disloyal in the 1930's. Now, there is no way the democrats will KILL those servicemen . . . right?:eek:

Penn 01-26-2021 08:02

You'll forgot about Janet Napolitano? Soldiers, Veterans, they want to feel safer, having corrupted the entire political system. That purge, just may backfire on them.

JasonB 01-26-2021 22:26

I'm just a civilian so I rarely run my piehole here because I don't have much of anything to contribute, but I just wanted to note I feel like we've lost our republic and we're literally one step away from being just like the Soviet Union and worse maybe. I had hoped that if all things went to absolute shit and the government turned on us the military would save us, but it looks like DOD is gearing up to have the military be the ones that are going to stomp us into the ground. I don't know what to do.

Old Dog New Trick 01-26-2021 22:54

JasonB, it’s unlikely the U.S. military will ever be the force to “stomp us into the ground.” I wouldn’t over think this current issue, but being prepared for anything is also prudent. Just saying.

JasonB 01-27-2021 10:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick (Post 666555)
JasonB, it’s unlikely the U.S. military will ever be the force to “stomp us into the ground.” I wouldn’t over think this current issue, but being prepared for anything is also prudent. Just saying.

I honestly hope not, I wouldn't imagine that they would go along with anything crazy. Seems like going after the ones in the military that support one political mindset over another trying to create a one sided military loyal to the state and not the constitution can only lead to bad things though. Same thing happened in every growing dictatorship through history if I'm remembering my history correctly. I apologize if I come off as insulting to our service members, that certainly isn't the intent.

EricV 01-27-2021 11:52

The military would be divided if it came to that I think...

https://www.$$$tube.com/watch?v=_xmSYk_dOlA&feature=youtu.be

cbtengr 01-27-2021 17:48

Where was all this concern about extremism when Spenser Rapone came out of the closet and was commissioned ? It took two years to flush that turd.

WarriorDiplomat 01-27-2021 19:21

I have news for everyone that forgot....the military was being purged under Obama....over 200high ranking officers and an unkown amount of enlisted through trickle down military recruiting, visibility and media and focus started it....I am unsure how many pro swamp people left under Trump but I was shocked at how dumb otherwise smart GBs were when it came to politics.....far too many were pro Clinton over Trump....and bought into the disinformation campaign of the media hook, line and sinker...the big Army? forget it

So the purge is going to be relatively easy this time....a few Command climate surveys a few sensing sessions and briefs and those people are identified

Old Dog New Trick 01-28-2021 06:13

And if you didn’t think it was coming...

Army’s AG to begin probe into whether or not the military, SOCOM, in connection with CIA committed war crimes while down range fighting the wars they’ve fought.

https://taskandpurpose.com/story/new...crimes-review/

JimP 01-28-2021 08:20

ODNT - saw that this morning. You just KNOW they are going to "find" something requiring a drastic revision of how we do business. But hey, guys can now wear clear nail polish under the new AR 670-1 so we've got that going for us.

Box 01-28-2021 09:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimP (Post 666604)
But hey, guys can now wear clear nail polish under the new AR 670-1 so we've got that going for us.


True Story

tom kelly 01-28-2021 15:01

PERMISSION:
 
Did Zing Chow Ping & The CCP give their O K on the clear nail polish; If it's made in China, sure it's APPROVED.....Still waiting for the Tulsi Gabbard bikini photos............I am focusing on what's important !!!!

Penn 01-28-2021 21:12

ODNT
Quote:

JasonB, it’s unlikely the U.S. military will ever be the force to “stomp us into the ground.” I wouldn’t over think this current issue, but being prepared for anything is also prudent. Just saying.
Obama house cleaned the combatant commands, no one resigned in protest. Obama and Clintons killed a US Ambassador and four American (Veteran) Contractors, no one resigned, and all knew he ABANDON THEM IN THE FIELD!

I loved my service time, my fellow veterans, but I do not trust human nature when a seat at the power table is up for auction

Edit to add: America's Ceasar: General Mac Arthur had little moral issues with removing non violent WW1 Veteran from DC, Ruthlessly, crushing his fellow Veterans. It was not a problem, it was a career choice.

abc_123 01-28-2021 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRB (Post 666480)
Political thunder not lightning..... another one hour mandatory tng event.... feel good crap.

And I remember when I was a lowly company XO in the 1st Cav... reading verbatim a presentation about, "don't ask don't tell" that my company commander was required to give, but made me do it. I had to put the whole company in the front leaning rest to get them to stop effing around. I gave them breaks by making them elevate their feet. All fun and games. To all of us.

Not crap now.

sfshooter 01-28-2021 23:37

For those that aren't aware of the new changes to AR 670-1, go to this link and about halfway down the page is a full explanation, to include men's nail polish.
https://soldiersystems.net/


Quote: Army senior leaders approved several upcoming grooming and appearance modifications, said Sgt. Maj. Brian Sanders, senior enlisted leader of Army G-1’s uniform policy branch.

The announcement will be followed by an all-Army activities message that will take effect late February and will supersede the standards outlined in the grooming and appearance chapter of Army Regulation 670-1 until the next scheduled revision.

“This is one of the many facets of putting our people first and recognizing who they are as human beings,” he said. “Their identity and diverse backgrounds are what makes the Army an ultimate fighting force.”


It's quite clear the mission doesn't come first anymore!

Badger52 01-29-2021 07:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by sfshooter (Post 666638)
The announcement will be followed by an all-Army activities message that will take effect late February and will supersede the standards outlined in the grooming and appearance chapter of Army Regulation 670-1 until the next scheduled revision.

So when this ALARACT comes out presumably it'll also cover the female buzz-cuts & long pony tails & Chantilly lace as well. Will we go back to seeing Kaepernick 'fros with picks stuck out the side and a patrol cap tenuously perched atop the shining coif? That was an era I'd rather forget, with just one symptom being a line unit TOWING as many of its vehicles to the field as driving them.

[/curmudgeon]

PSM 01-29-2021 10:30

2 Attachment(s)
:D They tweeted this out yesterday:

tom kelly 01-29-2021 13:27

GROOMING:
 
Hair & Nails ! Does the CCP's Army have these problems ? How about the Speznetz do they have grooming regulations ? Good Thing the U S Military has the "Pentagon" to solve these problems....

7624U 01-30-2021 06:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by sfshooter (Post 666638)
For those that aren't aware of the new changes to AR 670-1, go to this link and about halfway down the page is a full explanation, to include men's nail polish.
https://soldiersystems.net/


Quote: Army senior leaders approved several upcoming grooming and appearance modifications, said Sgt. Maj. Brian Sanders, senior enlisted leader of Army G-1’s uniform policy branch.

The announcement will be followed by an all-Army activities message that will take effect late February and will supersede the standards outlined in the grooming and appearance chapter of Army Regulation 670-1 until the next scheduled revision.

“This is one of the many facets of putting our people first and recognizing who they are as human beings,” he said. “Their identity and diverse backgrounds are what makes the Army an ultimate fighting force.”


It's quite clear the mission doesn't come first anymore!

How can you focus on mission when your stressed about putting up you hair.

Swoop 01-30-2021 06:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7624U (Post 666682)
How can you focus on mission when your stressed about putting up you hair.

Or if you might chip a nail.....Frigging unbelievable!!!

Badger52 01-30-2021 12:41

Know what they call a pony tail when 'grappling' as part of physical training?

A handle.
:rolleyes:

Swoop 01-31-2021 06:40

“Grappling”......is that what they’re calling it these days. :cool:

Badger52 01-31-2021 11:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 666692)
“Grappling”......is that what they’re calling it these days. :cool:

To tell you the truth I actually have no idea but I get the sense that "combatives" or "hand-to-hand combat" are terms that are too... well, not "aligned" with the "feelings of the entire force."

(Yeah, just threw up a little typing that.)

tom kelly 01-31-2021 16:23

Hand to Hand Combat:
 
RICK'S LOUNGE, corner of Hay & Winslow, Fayetteville, NC. @1963 was the site of the Tng. Center for this activity... HAY Street AKA "Combat Alley".

Box 02-01-2021 07:57

A few years ago - tattoos were a sign of the devil because of the severe and devastating degree of unprofessional behavior associated with it...
...now Soldiers that gender identify as "male" can wear nail polish



Its a brave new world

JimP 02-01-2021 08:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Box (Post 666705)
A few years ago - tattoos were a sign of the devil because of the severe and devastating degree of unprofessional behavior associated with it...
...now Soldiers that gender identify as "male" can wear nail polish



Its a brave new world

Stop it you Silly!! I'll scratch your eyes out.....(walks off in a snit).

Razor 02-01-2021 15:37

I wonder why the 15 woman/2 (obviously) metro advisory panel didn't think it was important to address the issue of beards? :rolleyes:

Badger52 02-01-2021 15:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimP (Post 666707)
Stop it you Silly!! I'll scratch your eyes out.....(walks off in a snit).

But you looked fabulous.
:D

CloseDanger 02-01-2021 16:30

HEH @ Ricks Lounge

bblhead672 02-01-2021 17:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor (Post 666720)
I wonder why the 15 woman/2 (obviously) metro advisory panel didn't think it was important to address the issue of beards? :rolleyes:

Because the 15 women wanted to keep their beards? :D


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