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Pete 02-28-2018 04:56

‘The time for reconciliation is over’: South Africa votes to confiscate white-owned l
 
‘The time for reconciliation is over’: South Africa votes to confiscate white-owned land without compensation

http://www.news.com.au/finance/econo...399d3576c4c0bc

"SOUTH Africa’s parliament has voted in favour of a motion that will begin the process of amending the country’s Constitution to allow for the confiscation of white-owned land without compensation.

The motion was brought by Julius Malema, leader of the radical Marxist opposition party the Economic Freedom Fighters, and passed overwhelmingly by 241 votes to 83 against. The only parties who did not support the motion were the Democratic Alliance, Freedom Front Plus, Cope and the African Christian Democratic Party.

It was amended but supported by the ruling African National Congress and new president Cyril Ramaphosa, who made land expropriation a key pillar of his policy platform after taking over from ousted PM Jacob Zuma earlier this month.

“The time for reconciliation is over. Now is the time for justice,” Mr Malema was quoted by News24 as telling parliament. “We must ensure that we restore the dignity of our people without compensating the criminals who stole our land.”..."

And awaaaay we go. Here we come Zimbabwe.........

Guymullins 02-28-2018 05:42

This may be the declaration of the Third Boer War.

Pete 02-28-2018 06:19

I thought the bush people "owned" South Africa, followed by the Dutch/Germans and then the Bantu peoples moving south.

TrapperFrank 02-28-2018 10:31

I predicted this was going to happen when apartheid ended. Africans are incapable of running Africa. The same thing happened in Rhodesia. In time, South Africa will morph into some version of what Rhodesia became.

Streck-Fu 02-28-2018 10:39

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Badger52 02-28-2018 17:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete (Post 640696)
And awaaaay we go. Here we come Zimbabwe.........

Egg-zackery. Thanks Pete for the link.

Well, it's too chilly outside for this FOG to throw one back around the campfire, so I'll just fill the DOL mug, glance at my Ruark collection on the bookshelf & toss Wild Geese into the DVD player. Away we go indeed.

Scimitar 02-28-2018 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guymullins (Post 640697)
This may be the declaration of the Third Boer War.

Guy, perhaps you could give us a run down as someone on the ground.
What is the likely outcomes here, both specifically and from a broader point of view.

S

lindy 02-28-2018 17:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scimitar (Post 640727)
Guy, perhaps you could give us a run down as someone on the ground.
What is the likely outcomes here, both specifically and from a broader point of view.

S

C’mon Scimitar, brush up on your Afrikaans!..and Guy ain’t that old! ;)

Scimitar 02-28-2018 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by lindy (Post 640728)
C’mon Scimitar, brush up on your Afrikaans!..and Guy ain’t that old! ;)

LOL, I didn't realize I had quoted him there.

I was referring to the situation in general, not the history of British aggression. ;)

S

Chucko 03-02-2018 19:11

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz58VXEVgp7

"Mr Malema said the time for 'reconciliation is over'. 'Now is the time for justice,' News24 reported.

'We must ensure that we restore the dignity of our people without compensating the criminals who stole our land."

"Mr Malema has a long-standing commitment to land confiscation without compensation. In 2016 he told his supporters he was 'not calling for the slaughter of white people - at least for now'."


I can see this will turn this country to crap very quickly. How to turn 1000 acres of productive land to 1 acre of arid land.

SF_BHT 03-02-2018 19:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chucko (Post 640813)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz58VXEVgp7

"Mr Malema said the time for 'reconciliation is over'. 'Now is the time for justice,' News24 reported.

'We must ensure that we restore the dignity of our people without compensating the criminals who stole our land."

"Mr Malema has a long-standing commitment to land confiscation without compensation. In 2016 he told his supporters he was 'not calling for the slaughter of white people - at least for now'."


I can see this will turn this country to crap very quickly. How to turn 1000 acres of productive land to 1 acre of arid land.

They are running out of water so sit back and watch.

PSM 03-02-2018 20:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guymullins (Post 640697)
This may be the declaration of the Third Boer War.

Got a plan, Mike?

Guymullins 03-03-2018 09:42

There is no need to go into what happens when an African government seizes land. All ex-colonies(apart from Botswana and Namibia) had this happen and they all collapsed into ruin.
This is in fact not only about land, but it is all property. That means land, shares, companies everything is liable to nationalisation.

It is also not only the whites who will be subject to this Constitutional Amendment but everyone. Of course, the whites are the primary target, but the die-hard Communists who still hold sway in the ANC have always had this as their aim and now the opportunity seems ripe for them.

For many years now, farms have been raided on a daily basis and white farmers and their whole families have been raped, tortured and murdered in horrible ways. Often nothing is stolen but a vehicle for getaway purposes and firearms.

There has been almost no publicity of this because the media that isn't government owned is filled with left-wing writers and editors who are as anti-white as the ANC.

White South Africans have until now, found it impossible to really fight back, mainly because they had been branded as Apartheid criminals and there was no sympathy from the rest of the world.

The feeling is that this antipathy to whites by western nations is slowly draining away. This is for two reasons.
Firstly, for the first time, they are experiencing what it is like to live with radically different cultures as they try to cope with their own refugee influx.

Secondly, many western nations are finding that Apartheid type living is the only way to co-exist in a single state with such differing cultures.

Returning to the present problem: The white man is being forced into a corner and the government knows that a vigorous backlash can be expected. The numbers are not good as far as hostilities are concerned. The whites are a tiny 8% of the population. However, the statistics from the 30-year bush war show that the casualty rate of about 110:1 of a white civilian force against black professional armies is by no means a hindrance.

Not too long ago, when the British also wanted to seize all the land for the Empire, a tiny handful of Boers eventually rose up and gave the greatest Empire the world had ever known a long and costly war. The Boers only finally being defeated when all their families were confined to concentration camps where the wives and kids died like flies from disease and malnutrition.

This was the Second Boer War and the British knew that, as soon as the Boers had recovered, there would be a Third War so they shortly afterwards gave the Boers the self-determination they asked for in a Union with the British Empire.

The present Black government are vaguely aware of this history and know that the best way to deal with the whites is a death by a thousand cuts.

Whites have accepted Black Economic Empowerment laws that have made it almost impossible for young whites to get employment. White companies have had to give away large parts of their companies to Blacks who have no clue as to how to run them.
White reaction to this is to start their own companies and somehow do quite well by keeping things small and profitable.

So this is the environment that this latest assault is launched. If it isn't watered down to ineffectuality and passes in its proposed form, it may well be the last straw for whites. Most whites have nowhere to go. Those with foreign passports have left long ago and those remaining are the real die-hards.
Personally, both my wife and I have British citizenship and could have left long ago but our sons could not get British passports. We are here for the duration.

Watch this space, things could become exciting.

Guymullins 03-03-2018 09:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSM (Post 640816)
Got a plan, Mike?

Of course. I may be African, but I am not entirely brain dead.

sfshooter 03-03-2018 13:36

Hold strong down there. I worked with and became good friends with some of your countrymen while in Iraq. Extremely professional! I expect they will be in the mix with you if it comes down to it.

lindy 03-03-2018 13:42

There is some coverage in the States but one seriously has search for it.

Wors in die hondestal soek.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...th_africa.html

mojaveman 03-03-2018 15:21

Quote:

I expect they will be in the mix with you if it comes down to it.
Yes.

Every South African I have met and have been friends with are well armed. This isn't going to go down easy. ;)

PRB 03-03-2018 17:16

http://www.newsweek.com/thousands-si...migrate-826126

Scimitar 03-03-2018 18:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guymullins (Post 640827)
There is no need to go into what happens when an African government seizes land. All ex-colonies(apart from Botswana and Namibia) had this happen and they all collapsed into ruin.
This is in fact not only about land, but it is all property. That means land, shares, companies everything is liable to nationalisation.

It is also not only the whites who will be subject to this Constitutional Amendment but everyone. Of course, the whites are the primary target, but the die-hard Communists who still hold sway in the ANC have always had this as their aim and now the opportunity seems ripe for them.

For many years now, farms have been raided on a daily basis and white farmers and their whole families have been raped, tortured and murdered in horrible ways. Often nothing is stolen but a vehicle for getaway purposes and firearms.

There has been almost no publicity of this because the media that isn't government owned is filled with left-wing writers and editors who are as anti-white as the ANC.

White South Africans have until now, found it impossible to really fight back, mainly because they had been branded as Apartheid criminals and there was no sympathy from the rest of the world.

The feeling is that this antipathy to whites by western nations is slowly draining away. This is for two reasons.
Firstly, for the first time, they are experiencing what it is like to live with radically different cultures as they try to cope with their own refugee influx.

Secondly, many western nations are finding that Apartheid type living is the only way to co-exist in a single state with such differing cultures.

Returning to the present problem: The white man is being forced into a corner and the government knows that a vigorous backlash can be expected. The numbers are not good as far as hostilities are concerned. The whites are a tiny 8% of the population. However, the statistics from the 30-year bush war show that the casualty rate of about 110:1 of a white civilian force against black professional armies is by no means a hindrance.

Not too long ago, when the British also wanted to seize all the land for the Empire, a tiny handful of Boers eventually rose up and gave the greatest Empire the world had ever known a long and costly war. The Boers only finally being defeated when all their families were confined to concentration camps where the wives and kids died like flies from disease and malnutrition.

This was the Second Boer War and the British knew that, as soon as the Boers had recovered, there would be a Third War so they shortly afterwards gave the Boers the self-determination they asked for in a Union with the British Empire.

The present Black government are vaguely aware of this history and know that the best way to deal with the whites is a death by a thousand cuts.

Whites have accepted Black Economic Empowerment laws that have made it almost impossible for young whites to get employment. White companies have had to give away large parts of their companies to Blacks who have no clue as to how to run them.
White reaction to this is to start their own companies and somehow do quite well by keeping things small and profitable.

So this is the environment that this latest assault is launched. If it isn't watered down to ineffectuality and passes in its proposed form, it may well be the last straw for whites. Most whites have nowhere to go. Those with foreign passports have left long ago and those remaining are the real die-hards.
Personally, both my wife and I have British citizenship and could have left long ago but our sons could not get British passports. We are here for the duration.

Watch this space, things could become exciting.

Thanks for the sitrep Guy

S

Joker 03-03-2018 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guymullins (Post 640828)
Of course. I may be African, but I am not entirely brain dead.

That's some funny sh...

I would say you've kept your sense of humor but they will find a away to take that too.

Be safe.

Guymullins 03-06-2018 02:27

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One of our Para Vets was attacked on his farm by four black male assailants at 2am three days ago. Robbie killed one with its own gun, broke the neck of another. The remaining two fled the scene.

Joker 03-06-2018 05:10

Not bad for an old man! :lifter

Give him our best.

Pete 03-06-2018 09:30

“Go After the White Man… We Are Cutting the Throat of Whiteness”
 
“Go After the White Man… We Are Cutting the Throat of Whiteness”

Looks like some folks listened and went after Guy's Friend


Racist South African Political Leader Julius Malema: “Go After the White Man… We Are Cutting the Throat of Whiteness”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018...oat-whiteness/

Guy 03-06-2018 10:24

^^^Operation Wrath of God...:munchin

JJ_BPK 03-06-2018 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guy (Post 640975)
^^^Operation Wrath of God...:munchin

Stay safe
Prayers out

bblhead672 03-06-2018 10:39

Other than the obvious reasons, why aren't leaders worldwide condemning this hate speech?

If this is allowed to proceed without intervention by civilized people, it won't be long before the barely restrained black nationalists in the United States take up the same cry.

Guy 03-06-2018 10:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by bblhead672 (Post 640977)
Other than the obvious reasons, why aren't leaders worldwide condemning this hate speech?

If this is allowed to proceed without intervention by civilized people, it won't be long before the barely restrained black nationalists in the United States take up the same cry.

DO NOT! Compare "South African (SA)" blacks to "American" blacks; they're NOT synonymous.:cool::p

Team Sergeant 03-06-2018 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guy (Post 640980)
DO NOT! Compare "South African (SA)" blacks to "American" blacks; they're NOT synonymous.:cool::p

Excuse me??????? ;)

http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/05/ma...ack-americans/





I love this congresscrazybitch, she's the "black" nancy pelosi. Both bat-shit crazy.

PSM 03-06-2018 11:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 640983)
Excuse me??????? ;)

http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/05/ma...ack-americans/





I love this congresscrazybitch, she's the "black" nancy pelosi. Both bat-shit crazy.

Easy for her to say, she lives in Hancock Park (where the mayor's mansion is) about 20 miles from her district.

rsdengler 03-06-2018 11:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 640983)
Excuse me??????? ;)

http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/05/ma...ack-americans/





I love this congresscrazybitch, she's the "black" nancy pelosi. Both bat-shit crazy.

Maxine Waters is a Stupid Racist Cow...Oh...and why does she look like she's wearing James Brown's Wig?:D

RomanCandle 03-07-2018 14:01

South African born and bred. Irish citizenship/ passport - won't be making use of it.
Who knows, something might just happen.

glebo 03-07-2018 16:25

Wow, thanks (I guess, not good), for the knowledge of the happenings.

As mentions earlier...water, septic/sewer, disabled, leave them nothing.

How about the 'ol "scorched Earth" policy??

I think we've had no news here is ...well, because of you know, not the agenda...BLM and such. Africans are the "down trodden" people...

If the world only knew... damn

I pray your family members fair well...

PRB 03-07-2018 18:42

Guy,
I have some SA's telling me this is all overblown and not representative of the real SA today....putting a happy face on it.
This is on a website I hang out on...Porsche Pelican in Politics and Religion.....its not like what one hears in the news etc....

I posted your comment without your name and some of your other stuff....

Whistling past the grave I suspect.

Guymullins 03-08-2018 01:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRB (Post 641062)
Guy,
I have some SA's telling me this is all overblown and not representative of the real SA today....putting a happy face on it.
This is on a website I hang out on...Porsche Pelican in Politics and Religion.....its not like what one hears in the news etc....

I posted your comment without your name and some of your other stuff....

Whistling past the grave I suspect.

PRB, If the US government made it their policy to take all property without compensation, you would maybe have a big portion of liberals telling everyone not to panic. The rest of the country would be reaching for their rifles I imagine. In SA there are those who will go to any lengths to appease the crocodile in the vain hope that they will be eaten last.


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