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Patrin 09-11-2016 08:48

Hillary stumbled off the curb, her "knees buckled"
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...urce-says.html

"Hillary Clinton had a “medical episode” that required her to leave a 9/11 commemoration ceremony early, a law enforcement source who witnessed the event told Fox News.

The Democratic presidential nominee appeared to faint on her way into her van and had to be helped by her security, the source said. She was “clearly having some type of medical episode.”

Clinton's stumbled off the curb, her "knees buckled" and she lost a shoe as she was helped into a van during her "unexpected early departure," a witness told Fox News.

A separate law enforcement source told Fox News that Clinton left the event because she wasn't feeling well.

Clinton's campaign did not immediately respond to calls seeking comment."


There's no hiding it now.

Paslode 09-11-2016 09:11

What I find interesting about all this talk about Hillary's health is that a month or two ago a Dem client said he hoped I wasn't a Trumpster. I responded that I thought they all sucked and were all liars.

And the clients responses was 'Tim Kaine is a good guy, you will like him'. And he went on for about the merits of Tim Kaine.

It struck me as odd, because I am not voting for Tim Kaine, my choices are Trump or Clinton.

Patrin 09-11-2016 09:27

Change is coming, that is for sure.

I see Hitlary having two choices now:

1) Disclosing her full medical record and/or the result of a current full medical work-up.

2) Drop out of the race for undisclosed medical reasons.

Either avenue leads to a dead end for her Presidential run.

This late in the game, Trump should now win handily.

EDITED TO ADD:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FfxU3JyNpQ

9:00AM, NYC local weather - 79 degrees, high dew point, slightly breezy.

No matter what cover the MSM puts out, it's not going to be enough.

This is not an isolated incident and you don't leave one of Hitlary's shoes in the parking lot, unless it is an emergency and you're trying to get her the heck out of there.

Paslode 09-11-2016 09:32

Could be. But if she is seriously ill, the Dems have known it for awhile and probably have planned for it.............October is just around the corner.

Trapper John 09-11-2016 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrin (Post 616309)
Change is coming, that is for sure.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FfxU3JyNpQ

9:00AM, NYC local weather - 79 degrees, high dew point, slightly breezy.

No matter what cover the MSM puts out, it's not going to be enough.

This is not an isolated incident and you don't leave one of Hitlary shoes in the parking lot, unless it is an emergency and you're trying to get her the heck out of there.

I was watching MSNBC and it was hilarious to watch the spin that they're trying to put on this. "It's so hot and muggy here I was wearing shorts and she was in full dress suit. I would have fainted too."

I'm in the AO and today is cool and breezy, not hot an humid. The media and her campaign are over correcting to cover her. MSNBC has spent an hour covering this. A lot of time for a non-event. And of course they didn't show the stumble or that she needed assistance.

Oh it was just the horrible weather and she just needed air conditioning. It is so obvious that MSNBC is in full coverup mode. It's the weather, f'n climate change no doubt!

Damn MSNBC is still covering this shit (going on 90 min now) They are raving about how good she looks coming out of Chelsea's apartment. And oh my, the sun is out "beating down" in this horribly hot weather. And look at her in long sleeved jacket and pants and probably a long sleeved blouse. And she is paying attention to a little girl and answering questions. My god she is amazing.

Me thinks thou doth protest too much. ;)

Patrin 09-11-2016 10:49

Quote:

And of course they didn't show the stumble or that she needed assistance.
I've got you covered, TJ.;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBHA7qOyogg

MSNBC can say what they want...the video above seals the deal.

The woman cannot even stand without being held up by three men.

She is toast.

EDITED TO ADD:

Another video...reverse angle I believe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11-EAzsGxgQ

If it wasn't for that post, she wouldn't be able to stand.

Law enforcement eyewitness on Clinton being put in van: “They threw her in like she was a side of beef"


http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-ceremony.html

The Reaper 09-11-2016 12:07

Ouch.

I wish the Secret Service detail could be interviewed.

TR

Patriot007 09-11-2016 13:38

There's another video and angle of this that makes it quite clear she was experiencing symptoms which prompted the evac. A woman can be seen holding her up before she really starts to faulter. If heat was the cause some cool water or losing the coat would have been a logical first attempt before evac.

This looks like pre-syncope vs syncope vs transient ischemic attack (mini stroke) vs less likely partial seizure. The causes of syncope can be benign such as heat syncope, vasovagal and orthostasis (e.g dehydration) or more serious such as severe anemia or cardiac arrhythmia.

Team Sergeant 09-11-2016 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrin (Post 616316)
Law enforcement eyewitness on Clinton being put in van: “They threw her in like she was a side of beef"


I just want o go on record stating that's extremely offensive to "beef".

The cows, bulls, oxen, heifers, steers, bullocks and calves society would prefer that:

“They threw her in like she was a sack of shitte"

Remember, "Bovine lives matter"

cbtengr 09-11-2016 14:02

Meanwhile Joe Biden keeps muttering to himself " why didn't I run why why?"

Patrin 09-11-2016 15:48

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 616322)
I just want o go on record stating that's extremely offensive to "beef".

I couldn't agree more...

Now her doc...per Fox News...is saying it's "pneumonia".

Yeah...that dog won't hunt.

cbtengr 09-11-2016 16:26

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GratefulCitizen 09-11-2016 16:38

Trump should capitalize on this by asking the nation to pray for the opposing candidate's health.
Maybe he could call for a member of the clergy to bless her and sprinkle her with holy water, too...
:D

tonyz 09-11-2016 16:42

In both YouTube videos posted here - for a moment - she actually appears to be out on her feet.

ETA: leaked cell phone footage of the candidate inside Chelsea's apartment before Hillary eventually emerged good as new.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vg6pWv1B9L4

echoes 09-11-2016 17:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrin (Post 616304)
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...urce-says.html

Clinton's stumbled off the curb, her "knees buckled" and she lost a shoe as she was helped into a van during her "unexpected early departure," a witness told Fox News.
There's no hiding it now.



What angered me the most was the fact that this f***in loser actually called the, NYPD," to retrieve her shoe!!!:mad: From the 9/11 Memorial that the NYPD lost fellow Officers, and she has the f***in gall to call them up and tell them to retrieve and deliver a shoe, for cryin out loud!

One can only hope that they cursed it before delivery.:munchin


Holly

tonyz 09-11-2016 17:25

Shoe...I wanna know who retrieved her broom...

GratefulCitizen 09-11-2016 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyz (Post 616333)
In both YouTube videos posted here - for a moment - she actually appears to be out on her feet.

ETA: leaked cell phone footage of the candidate inside Chelsea's apartment before Hillary eventually emerged good as new.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vg6pWv1B9L4

Suspect her reaction might be more like Gollum.
https://youtu.be/Bjywd6ZTMUQ

Come to think of it, she's resembling Gollum more and more as the decades pass.
Her coughing fits are even starting to resemble Gollum.

The pursuit of her "Ring of Power" (her preciousss...) has had consequences.
Hmmm...from now on, gonna refer to her as "Gollum".

tonyz 09-11-2016 17:29

Lol...her facial resemblance to Gollum is more than coincidence.

The Reaper 09-11-2016 19:14

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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen (Post 616332)
Maybe he could call for a member of the clergy to bless her and sprinkle her with holy water, too...
:D

I saw this movie.

When sprinkled with holy water, she would burst into flames and melt.

TR

Patrin 09-11-2016 19:17

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Originally Posted by tonyz (Post 616333)
In both YouTube videos posted here - for a moment - she actually appears to be out on her feet.

ETA: leaked cell phone footage of the candidate inside Chelsea's apartment before Hillary eventually emerged good as new.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vg6pWv1B9L4

That is really funny.:D

Gents...this is getting deep.

Meet Lisa R. Bardack, MD

http://www.caremountmedical.com/dire.../lisa-bardack/

Hildog has to be one sick lady to require the service of a personal MD to walk to and from transport.

She is to the right, holding Hitlary's hand (or taking her pulse).

tonyz 09-11-2016 19:59

Make no mistake - Hillary is in great health - what you saw today was merely the result of a vile YouTube video...
~Joseph Goebbels
~Baghdad Bob
~Jay Carney
~Barry Soetoro

Remington Raidr 09-11-2016 20:47

Hold on now . . .
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brush Okie (Post 616315)
Man oh man the psy-ops campaign is in full swing. They could at least be a little more subtle about it. They are getting as bad as bagdad bob.

Baghdad Bob was more credible.:rolleyes:

Oldrotorhead 09-11-2016 21:33

If it was the heat you would think her Dr (standing behind her just prior to entering the van ) would have recognized the symptoms sooner and told her to take off the jacket, sit down and drink a pint of baby's blood. But noooo! :D

Box 09-11-2016 21:40

Any of you jokers that refuse to accept the decree that this was nothing more than heat exhaustion secondary to pneumonia deserve a trip to room 101...

...to doubt what is declared by Madam Secretary is reason to be placed in the "basket of deplorables"

PSM 09-11-2016 21:42

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Ozzy Clinton or Hillary Osbourne? :confused:

Sdiver 09-11-2016 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patriot007 (Post 616321)
There's another video and angle of this that makes it quite clear she was experiencing symptoms which prompted the evac. A woman can be seen holding her up before she really starts to faulter. If heat was the cause some cool water or losing the coat would have been a logical first attempt before evac.

This looks like pre-syncope vs syncope vs transient ischemic attack (mini stroke) vs less likely partial seizure. The causes of syncope can be benign such as heat syncope, vasovagal and orthostasis (e.g dehydration) or more serious such as severe anemia or cardiac arrhythmia.

Doc,
What do you think, could this also be early onset of Parkinson's ???

I've seen that hypothesis being tossed about.
.

Penn 09-12-2016 00:10

if you open the second video posted by Patrin, pause it immediately. Then advance it one click at a time, by clicking just pass the little red ball, you will see a frame by frame replay of her collapse. Notice also, how the women next to her is holding her up, as her right shoulder seems to be elevated a few inches above her left. Also, of some interest is she remains stationary, does not move until the doors are opened, and when she does, she is unable to do so, a SSA must turn and grab her.

I also noticed how quickly the SSA formed a shield to block the viewpoint as if a threat was about to happen.

That said, to have the "Top" NYC internal Dr by your side 24/7 is a statement of her real condition.

Go Devil 09-12-2016 06:49

I watched and cared for two brothers with brain cancer from the time I was nine until I was twenty-two. Siezures were a daily occurrence.
Based upon my experiences, I believe she's been having seizures for a long time.
I do not know what's causing them, but it is clearly evident that she has a serious physical problem.

PedOncoDoc 09-12-2016 07:55

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Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 616318)
Ouch.

I wish the Secret Service detail could be interviewed.

TR

They cannot be interviewed?

If one of the two major candidates vying for the presidency is extremely ill, wouldn't it be a matter of national security, and thus shouldn't they be able to speak up?

It may be career-ending, but they could, in theory, be protected as "whistle-blowers".

Then again, I'm sure none of them want to catch a bad case of suicide. :munchin

Sohei 09-12-2016 08:15

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Originally Posted by PedOncoDoc (Post 616364)
...but they could, in theory, be protected as "whistle-blowers".

The truth of the matter is that the "protection of whistle-blowers" is a theory in-and-of-itself. There are many whistle-blowers out there that don't feel they were protected.

As to the interviewing of agents...they can be interviewed, but it wouldn't be by the press. That won't happen.

Patrin 09-12-2016 09:36

"Zeiss Z1 lenses for epilepsy/photophobia"...that's a blip of info. I read over on another forum regarding the sunglasses Hitlary is wearing in the previous picture I posted.

Interesting.

Particularly, when you factor in the story line that she is suffering from pneumonia.

How many people have any of us known with pneumonia, that one, collapses uncontrollably, then bounces back...after a visit to her daughter's apartment (with full medical stock I'm sure)...waves at the camera and then hugs a little girl.

All while having pneumonia.

I'm no doctor, but this is a crock of sh*t.

Rather, one would be getting oxygen therapy, perhaps IV meds, inhalers, etc.

The method of, coolly, escorting her back to transport, says to me her handlers and MD knew what to do.

Conversely, you can walk around hours after you experience neurological issues that get treated, you can get close to kids and others, you don't need full walking support after you are treated.

Now she's cancelled major fundraising trips to CA, and Trump has announced he will release the result of a full physical to the press, "with very, very detailed numbers" this week.

I recall a quote from Churchill after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, and he knew, now, that America would enter the war and help would come:

“Being saturated and satiated with emotion and sensation, I went to bed and slept the sleep of the saved and thankful.”

We have all been very worried about the fate of the country that we love, and our own personal freedoms. It may not seem like it now, but I believe her fate is sealed, and that, perhaps, needed change will now come.

Believe me, I am about as cynical as one can get, but I'm seeing a further solidified path to victory in November.

Oldrotorhead 09-12-2016 10:34

Tinfoil? Quite possibly
Parkinson's The sources are suspect and I'm not a Doctor :munchin

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?sh...05?projector=1

bblhead672 09-12-2016 11:08

What kind of medical treatment, spells or witchcraft was used inside Chelsea's apartment to bring about such a turnaround?

I fully expect to wake up one morning soon to the news that the woman has died from her undisclosed illness.

PSM 09-12-2016 11:13

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Originally Posted by bblhead672 (Post 616380)

I fully expect to wake up one morning soon to the news that the woman has died from her undisclosed illness...

...Only to rise again on the third day and emerge from Chelsea's apartment triumphant.

Pat

Patriot007 09-12-2016 15:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sdiver (Post 616354)
Doc,
What do you think, could this also be early onset of Parkinson's ???

I've seen that hypothesis being tossed about.
.

It doesn't scream Parkinson's to me as Parkinson's is usually slowly progressive rather than episodic initially but without getting more history or physical it is a possibility.

In the general population partial seizure would be less likely but given her history of cerebral venous thrombosis I actually think partial seizures are very high on the differential. Cerebral venous thromboses are essentially a type of stroke that can cause seizures. Not all seizures are the tonic clonic classic seizures everyone thinks. Sometimes they can be as subtle as focal weakness or uncontrollable limb. Seizures can begin with an aura that give a warning that they will progress. Perhaps evac was begun when she sensed an aura but was not quick enough.

This is only conjecture and we are without the luxury of a candid history or a physical and vitals. If I had this patient and accompanied video with limited history as we do she would be getting a cardiac and neuro work-up. The alternative is missing a serious diagnosis (arrythmia or seizure) and another event happening while the patient is driving putting herself and innocents at risk. For a 68 year old with her history "overheated" or dehydrated is definitely a diagnosis of exclusion. Any affirmation otherwise without appropriate testing is bad medicine or a blatant lie.

DJ Urbanovsky 09-12-2016 15:58

Remember, this is what a heat injury/pneumonia casualty looks like approximately two hours after being unable to stand or walk. Walking out of her daughter's apartment, not a hospital. Because I know that when I require medical attention, the first place I head is over to my kids house...

http://media.breitbart.com/media/201...-602406230.jpg

Sdiver 09-12-2016 16:44

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It doesn't scream Parkinson's to me as Parkinson's is usually slowly progressive rather than episodic initially but without getting more history or physical it is a possibility.

In the general population partial seizure would be less likely but given her history of cerebral venous thrombosis I actually think partial seizures are very high on the differential. Cerebral venous thromboses are essentially a type of stroke that can cause seizures. Not all seizures are the tonic clonic classic seizures everyone thinks. Sometimes they can be as subtle as focal weakness or uncontrollable limb. Seizures can begin with an aura that give a warning that they will progress. Perhaps evac was begun when she sensed an aura but was not quick enough.

This is only conjecture and we are without the luxury of a candid history or a physical and vitals. If I had this patient and accompanied video with limited history as we do she would be getting a cardiac and neuro work-up. The alternative is missing a serious diagnosis (arrythmia or seizure) and another event happening while the patient is driving putting herself and innocents at risk. For a 68 year old with her history "overheated" or dehydrated is definitely a diagnosis of exclusion. Any affirmation otherwise without appropriate testing is bad medicine or a blatant lie.

Agree, there needs to be a work up as well as a complete Hx completed.

This just flashed up over on FB and I've read that this woman is not just an aid, but Hillary's personal physician, who actually specializes in neurological issues.

I'll see if I can find the reference(s)

tonyz 09-12-2016 17:41

Patrin potentially identified the doctor in an earlier post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrin (Post 616340)

Meet Lisa R. Bardack, MD

http://www.caremountmedical.com/dire.../lisa-bardack/

Hildog has to be one sick lady to require the service of a personal MD to walk to and from transport.

She is to the right, holding Hitlary's hand (or taking her pulse).



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