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Pete 09-21-2013 08:03

Gunmen storm Nairobi Mall, 15 killed: Red Cross
 
Gunmen storm Nairobi Mall, 15 killed: Red Cross

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...98K03V20130921

"(Reuters) - Gunmen stormed a shopping mall in Nairobi on Saturday killing at least 15 people in what Kenya's government said might be a terrorist attack, and sending scores fleeing into shops, a cinema and onto the streets in search of safety...."

The story has a slide show that shows mostly the police is action.

When I first glanced at them it was hard to tell they were the police.

Pete 09-21-2013 08:05

Witness: Kenya mall attackers target non-Muslims
 
Witness: Kenya mall attackers target non-Muslims

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...09-21-08-48-19

"Elijah Kamau, who was at the mall at the time of the midday attack, said that the gunmen made a declaration that non-Muslims would be targeted.

"The gunmen told Muslims to stand up and leave. They were safe, and non-Muslims would be targeted," he said........"

Wiseman 09-21-2013 18:22

http://news.yahoo.com/39-dead-kenya-...212623649.html

39 confirmed dead....RIP

PRB 09-21-2013 18:27

Somalia would make a great replacement target for naval gunfire practice....and Dearborn Mi...samo samo

The Reaper 09-21-2013 18:37

Its okay, don't worry, they were just Christians.

TR

PRB 09-21-2013 18:41

The insight here is obvious....even tho they were assumed to be all Kenyan's and then equally resp. for the troops in Somalis the divider is Islam....did the Muslim Kenyan's breathe a sigh of relief as they walked out?
Would they stand by while non Muslim Kenyan's were slaughtered as most Muslims do in every other pred. Islamic State?
Yes, if recent history is a teaching tool.

Dusty 09-21-2013 18:52

If the victims were Muslim, there'd be another squiggly red line drawn by King Obam-me.

Wiseman 09-21-2013 19:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xah2FoAxg8c

footage of the evacuation from RT

JHD 09-22-2013 04:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRB (Post 523600)
The insight here is obvious....even tho they were assumed to be all Kenyan's and then equally resp. for the troops in Somalis the divider is Islam....did the Muslim Kenyan's breathe a sigh of relief as they walked out?
Would they stand by while non Muslim Kenyan's were slaughtered as most Muslims do in every other pred. Islamic State?
Yes, if recent history is a teaching tool.

Sadly, I think you have it right. Rest in peace to the victims.

Pete 09-22-2013 08:05

Israeli forces join Kenya battle to end deadly mall siege
 
Israeli forces join Kenya battle to end deadly mall siege

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...d4f2.621&hl=en

"NAIROBI — Kenyan troops backed by Israeli forces battled Sunday to end a siege in an upmarket shopping mall and free hostages held by Somali militants in an attack that has so far killed 59 people.

Sporadic gunfire could be heard as Kenyan security officials said they were attempting to kill or capture the remaining attackers and end the 26-hour-long bloodbath at the Westgate mall.

"The Israelis have just entered and they are rescuing the hostages and the injured," a Kenyan security source told AFP. The Israeli foreign ministry refused to confirm or deny its forces were involved......."

Pete 09-22-2013 15:50

Interesting
 
Interesting

PJ media is reporting that 3 of the terrorists are from America. 2 from the Minneapolis-St Paul area and 1 from the Kansas City area by way of Washington State.

Nothing I could find on regular news. Something about this is based on tweeter links coming up and being taken down.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/09/22...-mall/?print=1

The names from the Somali forum

ahmed mohamed isse 22 y.o native, from saint paul minnesota,
abdifatah osman keenadiid. 24 y.o from minneapolis
gen mustafe noorudiin. 27 y.o from kansas city. MO

The Reaper 09-22-2013 15:52

Brought to you again, by the religion of peace.

Where is the moral outrage?

TR

PRB 09-22-2013 16:18

The names from the Somali forum

ahmed mohamed isse 22 y.o native, from saint paul minnesota,
abdifatah osman keenadiid. 24 y.o from minneapolis
gen mustafe noorudiin. 27 y.o from kansas city. MO[/QUOTE]

If this is valid information, and US citizens of Somali extract are known to go 'home' and carry out Jihad, then what is the reaction of the community in the US?
An outpouring of dissent against Jihad focused on non combatants? A serious effort to instruct the Muslim US Somali youth?
No, the mothers/fathers of the slain jihadi's will quietly take comfort in the fact that their dead sons are now Shaheed's....Holy Warriors promised heaven.
Local Imam's will offer comments at Friday prayer where the dead will be cast in a positive light thru reading verses that support becoming a Shaheed.
There will be no effort to either curb this type of expat activity or privately admonish it.
The 'moderate' Muslims will go about their business neither supporting nor decrying these acts.
Moderate Muslims are the petri dish that Jihadi's live within to rest, hide, and prosper in non Muslim countries.

Pete 09-22-2013 16:40

Well
 
Well if this is true then the non-media "journalist" sources scooped the Lame Stream again.

Edited to add - just checked CNN and they have the story.

mugwump 09-22-2013 17:16

It's only a matter of time before we see this here.
In February 2010, a Virginia man named Anthony Joseph Tracy was arrested because of his close links to Al-Shabaab. By then, he had smuggled over 270 Somalis into the country through Mexico. The identities and locations of very few were known.

The Mexican government has also confirmed that al-Shabaab is taking advantage of the border. Its police have arrested and released members of al-Shabaab on their way to the U.S. before.

Another Somali jihadist group doing this same thing is Al-Ittihad Al-Islami. A Somali in San Antonio, Texas was arrested in March 2008 on immigration charges. From June 2006 to March 2008, he earned at least $3,000 for every single person he snuck across the border, making up to $75,000 in a single day.

He confirmed that he knew exactly what he was doing when he brought Al-Ittihad Al-Islami members into the U.S. His sentencing memo said “he believed they would fight against the U.S. if the jihad moved from overseas locations to the U.S. mainland.”
Can't grab a link via my iPad for some reason, but the source is Clarionproject.org "Al-Shabaab's State Sponsors Make Attacks Like Nairobi Possible".

tonyz 09-22-2013 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by mugwump (Post 523743)
It's only a matter of time before we see this here.
In February 2010, a Virginia man named Anthony Joseph Tracy was arrested because of his close links to Al-Shabaab. By then, he had smuggled over 270 Somalis into the country through Mexico. The identities and locations of very few were known.

The Mexican government has also confirmed that al-Shabaab is taking advantage of the border. Its police have arrested and released members of al-Shabaab on their way to the U.S. before.

Another Somali jihadist group doing this same thing is Al-Ittihad Al-Islami. A Somali in San Antonio, Texas was arrested in March 2008 on immigration charges. From June 2006 to March 2008, he earned at least $3,000 for every single person he snuck across the border, making up to $75,000 in a single day.

He confirmed that he knew exactly what he was doing when he brought Al-Ittihad Al-Islami members into the U.S. His sentencing memo said “he believed they would fight against the U.S. if the jihad moved from overseas locations to the U.S. mainland.”
Can't grab a link via my iPad for some reason, but the source is Clarionproject.org "Al-Shabaab's State Sponsors Make Attacks Like Nairobi Possible".

see link below (based on your post above - thanks):

http://www.clarionproject.org/analys...irobi-possible

Pete 09-23-2013 05:12

'Five of the Kenyan mall massacre gunmen are American':
 
'Five of the Kenyan mall massacre gunmen are American':

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2fiHAntRo
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"The FBI is investigating claims that up to five of the terrorists who killed 68 people in a despicable attack on an upmarket Kenyan shopping mall are Americans, as the the siege moved into its third day with fresh gunfire and explosions reported coming from the center on Monday morning in Nairobi......"

HH6 only follows the local news followed by the national news. I'll wait until after tonight's evening news and ask her "Did you know..." Bet it's "No".

Pete 09-23-2013 10:52

British 'white widow' linked to Nairobi mall siege
 
British 'white widow' linked to Nairobi mall siege

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/w...w/22947495.cms

"LONDON: The wife of one of the 2005 London bombings prime suspects, dubbed the "white widow", was on Monday linked to the ongoing siege at a shopping centre in Kenya.

Samantha Lewthwaite, the widow of bomber Jermaine Lindsay, was reportedly spotted shouting orders to gunmen in Arabic during the attack on the Westgate complex in the Kenyan capital, according to a media report......"

Another convert ........

tonyz 09-23-2013 11:09

Who is Samantha Lewthwaite?

CSM
By David Clark Scott, Staff writer / September 23, 2013

She is the wife of Germaine Lindsay, a man who blew himself up on July 7, 2005, at London's King’s Cross subway station killing 26 people. At the time, Lewthwaite, denied having any prior knowledge of the attack. Shortly thereafter, she became a fugitive.

Lewthwaite, the 29-year-old daughter of a soldier, hails from Banbridge, County Down, Ireland. She converted to Islam as a teenager, and according to British rmedia reports, has three children with whom she has been on the run.

In December of 2011, Kenyan police raided a two-room apartment in Mombasa, Kenya. They found chemicals similar to those used in the July 7, 2005 bombing in London. Lewthwaite was identified as the person who rented the apartment but she wasn't captured.

However, Jermaine Grant, who is British, was captured at the Mombasa apartment. He faces charges of conspiring to explode devices to hurt civilians, according to Kenyan police. Grant told police that he was working for Lewthwaite. She faces the same charges as Grant and another man later arrested trying to flee the country.

In March, the London Daily Telegraph reported that Lewthwaite and Fouad Manswab were plotting to free Grant, who's trial was set to begin Sept. 23 (today) in Mombasa. "We know that Fouad is in touch with Samantha Lewthwaite, and they were planning to rescue their accomplice," said Jacob Ondari, the deputy public prosecutor, at the time.

<snip>

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Secur...ya-mall-attack

medic&commo 09-23-2013 11:48

Been stated elsewhere, but two things came to mind, after R.I.P.
1. POTUS recent speech to again push for 'common sense gun control'.
and
2. Administration is sending arms to the allies of our enemies.

I fear "Coming to a mall near you", won't simply be about a movie attraction.

m&c

Ghost_Team 09-23-2013 11:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by medic&commo (Post 523846)
Been stated elsewhere, but two things came to mind, after R.I.P.
1. POTUS recent speech to again push for 'common sense gun control'.
and
2. Administration is sending arms to the allies of our enemies.

I fear "Coming to a mall near you", won't simply be about a movie attraction.

m&c

But just think, stronger gun laws ALWAYS stop violent crime. Especially if the criminals have guns supplied by the U.S. That's why Mexico is such a peaceful place.


:mad:

Guymullins 09-23-2013 13:11

Islamification is growing down south too.
 
We in South Africa have for a long time had a significant indigenous Muslim population. They are mainly traders and business people and have historically been very peaceful except in the Cape where they are big into drugs and gangsterism.
In the last three years, three huge mosques have been built in Johannesburg using foreign money. We have so far not had any terrorist incidents but the Muslim invasion is coming south with many Somali's and Ethiopian Muslims being added to our Indian and Dutch East Indian Muslims. In some ways, the thought of Sharia Law is attractive in our out-of-control crime situation, but it will never catch on with our natives.

hoepoe 09-23-2013 13:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guymullins (Post 523855)
?...We have so far not had any terrorist incidents....

The Planet Hollywood bombing and the bombing of a synagogue would be considered terror incidents, these were 20 years ago, but still happened.

H

Paslode 09-23-2013 14:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by mugwump (Post 523743)
The identities and locations of very few were known.

Probably find more than a few working in Tyson's Chicken plants.

Guymullins 09-24-2013 00:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoepoe (Post 523858)
The Planet Hollywood bombing and the bombing of a synagogue would be considered terror incidents, these were 20 years ago, but still happened.

H

Planet Hollywood seemed to be a commercial incident. I don't remember a synagogue being hit? We did of course have many terrorist incidents perpetrated by Nelson Mandela's ANC and MK before they took power, but I was writing of Muslim terrorism.

Stobey 09-24-2013 00:38

msg deleted. Sorry, didn't see Tonyz's post above.

hoepoe 09-24-2013 02:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guymullins (Post 523940)
Planet Hollywood seemed to be a commercial incident. I don't remember a synagogue being hit? We did of course have many terrorist incidents perpetrated by Nelson Mandela's ANC and MK before they took power, but I was writing of Muslim terrorism.

So was I:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/237666.stm
http://www.sahistory.org.za/organisa...rism-and-drugs

H

Mustang Man 09-24-2013 05:59

SAS Soldier with saving 100 lives
 
Who Dares, Wins:cool:

"He went back in 12 times and saved 100 people."

http://bearingarms.com/off-duty-sas-...n-mall-attack/

hoepoe 09-24-2013 07:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang Man (Post 523953)
Who Dares, Wins:cool:

"He went back in 12 times and saved 100 people."

http://bearingarms.com/off-duty-sas-...n-mall-attack/

Kudos to stepping up to the plate!

frostfire 09-24-2013 10:21

how long before it's coming to a mall NEAR you....

Time to peruse all the "be prepared" thread again and put into application

Dusty 09-24-2013 12:26

White Widow's in Hell, Now
 
http://video.foxnews.com/v/268792681...t-kenyan-mall/

PRB 09-24-2013 14:22

So what is the 'payoff' for women Shaheed's? 3 hole qualified?

http://conservativevideos.com/2013/0...omen-paradise/

Pete 09-24-2013 14:44

TALKING
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusty (Post 524011)

Talking fast for 1:06, said a lot of words but I do believe one key word was missing.

Anybody want to take a guess?

Dusty 09-24-2013 15:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete (Post 524032)
Talking fast for 1:06, said a lot of words but I do believe one key word was missing.

Anybody want to take a guess?

muslim

Paslode 09-24-2013 15:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete (Post 524032)
Talking fast for 1:06, said a lot of words but I do believe one key word was missing.

Anybody want to take a guess?

Muslim or Terrorism?

Pete 09-24-2013 17:16

Nairobi attack: Kenya's President Kenyatta says siege over
 
Nairobi attack: Kenya's President Kenyatta says siege over

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24225319

"Kenya's President Uhuru Kenyatta has declared the end of a bloody four-day siege by Islamist militants at Nairobi's Westgate shopping centre.

Five attackers were shot dead by troops and 11 suspects were in custody, he said in a TV address to the nation........."

11 taken alive? Hm.

PRB 09-24-2013 19:00

Taken alive....not the norm unless wounded.

The Reaper 09-24-2013 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRB (Post 524063)
Taken alive....not the norm unless wounded.

I thought the same thing.

Let their justice be sure and swift, unlike our own.

TR

mugwump 09-24-2013 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRB (Post 524063)
Taken alive....not the norm unless wounded.

Or the Israelis put them to sleep.

Good old BBC. Did you notice the quotes? You just know someone there wanted to substitute "anti-Zionist freedom fighters."
Several bodies - including those of "terrorists" - are thought to be trapped under rubble after three floors of the building collapsed following a blaze on Monday, officials said.


MR2 09-25-2013 18:37

I didn't do it.


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