Black militia group wants to arrest Trayvon Martin shooter
 

I am amazed with all the time and effort spent in the past few years conjuring up the Militia Demons that this group got missed.

http://www.thegrio.com/specials/tray...in-shooter.php


Base on the picture:

A New Black Panther Party member stands guard with "700 NBPP" tattooed on his face.. (credit: Sara D. Davis/Getty Images)

A New Black Panther Party member stands guard with “700 NBPP” tattooed on his face.., looks like King Samir Shabazz may be in it as well

http://tampa.cbslocal.com/2012/03/15...-watch-leader/


I wonder where Eric Holder stands on Vigilante Groups?

Dude, face it. If you're a Euro-American Judeo-Christian male, you're surrounded.

From what I've gathered about this incident so far, the shooter violated a cardinal rule; it's for the Courts to decide, of course.

Certainly you know that a "member of a traditionally disadvantaged class" can't be found guilty of stepping on a crack in the sidewalk.

Typical grandstanding move for media attention. :rolleyes:

FWIW, that statement was 'news' from last week before the DOJ dusted off their Marshal's badges, strapped on their six-shooters, woke up Festus to watch the jail, and sashayed on out into the fray.

We'll be hearing about it all for a long time to come as it plays out in the MSM, the blogosphere, talk radio, and the justice system.

Richard :munchin

Interesting, but I could have sworn George Zimmerman was Hispanic... :rolleyes:

Neighborhood Watch
 

When the Cops came to our Neighborhood Watch meetings they stressed we were not LEO's.

I was not there but he was doing neighborhood watch and he had a weapon and a phone.

From what I gather - the neighborhood was fairly nice - similar to mine - which has some less than nice areas within a couple of blocks.

Most unknown "visitors" will pick up the pace and stop looking left and right if you give them that little head nod "I see you" look.

We did have some teenagers a few years back who went through the neighborhood looking for unlocked cars - and they would take anything not nailed down. Spare change and CD's were hot items. They got caught in the act more than once but them buggers were fast and could hop fences with the best of them.

Oh, and I've heard the "kid" was 6'3".

This reminds of Tawana Brawley and the Duke lacrosse cases in that you have Rev. Al and Shabazz grabbing attention, coming to the aid of the 'victim', jumping to conclusions and condemning the fairer skinned person(s) involved without a day in court.

All good comments, all are on the mark.........but damn the hypocrisy really gets me!

Interesting as well that CBS would only put the left cheek of King Shabazz on their story....probably for fear that Homie Shabazz might be recognized as the 2008 NBBP Poll Thug.

Even more amazing the SPLC found tons of information on the Hutaree Group, enough to garner them name specific attention on the MIAC report......but they don't have any information on the NBLM.

Wow!

Al Sharpton was all over it too, big surprise .:cool:

According to his neighbor there have been 7 B&Es over the last year the whole neighborhood is fed up with it.

This is another of those things that the internet is good for; convicting someone before they are even charged with a crime. No one knows the circumstances involved here. How about waiting until all the facts are properly gathered. You know, that little thing called evidence?

But that tattoo on the face...
really makes life easy on law enforcement
officers.
Can't wait to see it on a mug shot.

Like the Duke rape case? Those guys never got an apology from the media, or the so called civil rights leaders.

My bet is two guys with attitudes butting heads and playing my dick is bigger got out of hand and Zimmerman panicked.

However, that is a wild a**ed guess and means nothing until, as has been mentioned, the evidence is in and sorted, cataloged, and EVALUATED.

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Who thinks the shooter was "white"?
 

Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin

Continue reading on Examiner.com Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin - Charleston Charleston Conservative | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/charleston-c...#ixzz1pqYqloFm

"..............Literally thousands of articles contain at least one false statement in the first couple of lines. They usually read "George ZImmerman, a white man," or "shoot by a white man." Zimmerman is described by family as a multiracial Hispanic. His appearance is clearly that of a Latino/Mestizo individual. However, the media wants him to be white because that better fits the political narrative they are trying to artificially create. Many news articles have also claimed the neighborhood is "mostly white." This is also a lie. The neighborhood is only 49% white. It is over half non-white.................."

No need for a court system...


http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/n...,4163905.story


And from MSNBC's Judge Lawrence O'Donnell

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1369414.html


And of course this happened because of lax gun laws.......at least according to Bloomberg


But there is this contrary opinion to the Bloomberg opinion back with some data about the decline Florida crime

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=203672

Ah yes, the MSM version of "shoot first, ask questions later", of course when they do it, it's all good :mad:


MSM whoring for Bloomberg's MAIG, what a surprise.

Stand your ground law or not. Your life needs to be threatened in order to use deadly force. The Kid had a Soda Pop bottle, the other guy had a Gun.
It might answer a lot of questions knowing if it was a contact shot or not. Unless they were fighting for the gun. I can't see this as a good shoot.
Imagine if that were your kid that was shot by some over zealous neighborhood watch guy. He didn't stand his ground. He followed the kid after being told not to by the 911 dispatch.

Chasing down the kid after being told to not pursue is the key here, IMHO. He was not in danger, he chose to hunt the kid down and escalate the situation. This is a tragic killing and the media is taking a sad situation and making it worse. The shooter does need to be arrested and given due process, but I don't see how he can be found innocent given the fact that he chased down a kid who was actively trying to avoid him.

Conflicting news accounts
 

There appear to be conflicting news accounts floating around out there.

The stated timeline - Z's story - appears to be along the lines of Z was following the "kid" - 6'3" football player - while he talked with 911. He was told to break it off and return to his car, which he did. The "kid" followed him back to his car where the contact occured. One witness states Z was on his back and being pummeled by the victim. Z had grass stains on his back and bruising to his face.

Did both have the right to be walking around the neighborhood? Yes. Does one person have the right to be walking in the same direction as another while talking on a cell phone? Yes.

Also there is a story reporting the "kid" was serving a 5 day suspension from school. Wonder what that was for? Just wondering because Z appears to have had a run in with the law way back in his past.

"........but I don't see how he can be found innocent given the fact that he chased down a kid who was actively trying to avoid him..........."

Doc where did you get "chased down"? Some other sites are claiming Z was stalking the kid. Both had just as much right to be walking down the street as the other. If you're walking down a residential street what do you think if you turn around and see somebody walking the same way while talking on a cell phone? Do you start running, dodging or just keep walking?

And by the way, people in my neighborhood have tried to chase down the little punks who were sneaking around stealing from cars and garages in our neighborhood - they were just too fast.
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Pete - I was not aware of the report that Martin was pummelling Z. My statement was with regards to the report that Z called 911 and was told to break off pursuit and later confronted the kid. If the kid did in fact tell his girlfriend on the phone he was trying to lose Z (as was stated in the original reports), I had assumed (I acknowledge this is a flaw with my argument) that Martin would take a route that made a second chance meeting with Z highly unlikely. Since a second meeting did occur despite Martin's attempt to evade Z per the reports I had read, I concluded that Z must have been stalking/pursuing Martin.

Hopefully the facts will come into the open to give a clearer picture of what actually happened.

Other than there was a confrontation, someone was shot and killed.....there are too many If's, Ands & Buts for anyone speculate or judge who was in the wrong.

Forensics should tell a good portion of the story of what the shooter did.

I am hoping the shooter followed proper CCH ROE so Sharpton and the Liberal media can eat crow once again.

Your all right, even in your humor & sarcasm you provide wealth of information. :D

And why evade?
 

Why would an innocent person walking down a street turn, see someone walking behind them talking on the phone need to lose them? This is not a walking while black situation - the neighborhood was only 49% white and Z was Hispanic.

Would not a person on neighborhood watch see somebody walking through their neighborhood start ducking & weaving think something suspicious was going on? Z did talk with 911 and was told to break off which he said he did.

The reports state the "Kid" was 6'2" or 6'3" depending on source and a football player. Z is reported to be 5'2". Hmmmmmm.

No lie.

I thought Shephard Smith was trying to re-ignite the Rodney King riots in Orlando today.

All the time, I was wondering if I had slept through the trial somehow.

Way too much agitation and speculation here, setting the scene for post-trial violence if Zimmerman is tried and acquitted.

Plenty of time for punishment after the facts have been gathered. I recommend stopping with the assumptions and gathering facts from the media.

TR

On another note. Even if this guy did everything right in shooting the kid. He is so Fu#%cked

Another lib double standard. That's like two in ten days that have been blown all out of proportion, right?

Nailed it.

Even the conservative media has been blasting this guy all week. Daytime talk radio, nightly news, opinion shows etc.

Even if this turns out to be justifiable shoot, this guys days are numbered. The public has predominately already made up their minds so if police declare it a good shoot it will just be racism and cover ups.


I bet now he realizes that if you go around looking for trouble eventually you will find it.

That was DIFFERENT!

TR

I know exactly what you mean. But a private Citizen can not detain another private Citizen for doing any of this. Sounds like he tried to do a Terry Stop. The guy who authored the Stand your Ground Law was talking last night. He said it clearly states "you can not approach someone, challenge someone creating a situation, then use the Stand Your Ground Law as a defense. He said the stand your ground law do's not even apply here.

If he broke off and returned to his vehicle like he stated, and the kid then followed and assaulted him. Then the stand your ground law would then apply wouldn't it? Since the kid would then be the aggressor.

That's hilarious, but it's also the lynch pin (NPI) of one of the primary drastic problems we face in this Country.

Was the "kid" ever detained?
 

Was the "kid" ever detained?

Is it against the law to walk up to somebody you don't know and ask what they are doing in the neighborhood? Damn, I've done the "Can I help you find where you're going" in my neighborhood just to get a closer look at somebody. Reason being we had a guy come home for lunch and find a stranger in his house - bad shot, he missed the perp and the cops never found him. Other than the kids at night checking cars around here the usual MO is to walk through the neighborhood during working hours, kick in somebody's front door and make off with what you can.

Is asking someone a question detaining them? If you try and ask a question and the person takes off wouldn't that be a little strange?

A lot of "facts" are being thrown around right now and the - if true - time line and locations are getting merged and folded in a lot of the stories out there right now.

Obama is now pumping it up....;)

Obama: 'If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon'

"When I think about this boy, I think about my own kids," Obama said in Rose Garden remarks. "I think every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this. And that everybody pull together."

"But my main message is to the parents of Trayvon Martin. You know, if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon," Obama said. "All of us as Americans are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves."

"Obviously this is a tragedy. I can only imagine what these parents are going through," Obama said. "All of us have to do some soul searching to figure out how something like this has happened."

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2...on-118439.html

Yeah. :rolleyes: Somebody needs to do some serious soul searching to determine honestly whether he'd even be commenting on the crime if the victim were Euro-American.

He did not comment to my knowledge, on the white boy set on fire by two black boys.

However, he did refrain from leaping to make an accusation of guilt.

Guess someone learned something from the teachable beer moment.

lololol Case Closed: Limbaugh, Gingrich and Santorum Guilty
 

The comment by Bled2003 makes ya wonder....good point..

Most "african-American" killings are done by other "african-Americans"....where's the rally for that????

The last chart in the quoted link is quite interesting given the topic of conversation. Black on white crimes committed by strangers occur ~15% more frequently than white on black crimes.