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alelks 05-30-2011 14:39

Butter (What do you use?)
 
Betty Crocker I'm not but over the years I've never really found a decent butter I like until today.

I was at Food Lion and decided to try some Plugra, European Style butter. It comes in one flat piece wrapped in a aluminum colored wrapper. This is the closest thing I have found that tastes like butter when I was a kid. I grilled some corn on the cob (in the husks) on the grill today and used this butter and man was it delicious. It tasted great on the Barbeque Bread as well. So far this is the best I've found.

I've tried churning my own from heavy cream but it just doesn't taste the same.

I was wondering what most use.

Snaquebite 05-30-2011 14:56

Actually I've use Land o Lakes forever, for different flavors I use it as a base an then blend.

I will say you've got me thinking about experimenting now. I grew up on home churned then Land
O Lakes.

alelks 05-30-2011 15:00

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Originally Posted by Snaquebite (Post 396573)
Actually I've use Land o Lakes forever, for different flavors I use it as a base an then blend.

I will say you've got me thinking about experimenting now. I grew up on home churned then Land
O Lakes.

I churned some last year in my food processor that came out pretty good but still didn't taste the same. Of course my memory may be failing me also but we won't go there. :) Churned butter sure gets hard in the refrigerator.

longrange1947 05-30-2011 15:02

I too, like Lands O Lakes butter. I use various styles depending on what I want to falvor. I have grown a fondness for the Olive Oil based butter by them though. :)

Dusty 05-30-2011 15:18

Same here; LOL (salted)

longrange1947 05-30-2011 15:20

Butter w/o salt is just not natural!!! :D

Dusty 05-30-2011 15:27

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Originally Posted by longrange1947 (Post 396581)
Butter w/o salt is just not natural!!! :D

Nor is "butter" that didn't originate in a cow...

longrange1947 05-30-2011 15:31

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Originally Posted by Dusty (Post 396584)
Nor is "butter" that didn't originate in a cow...

TRUE THAT!!! :D

Roguish Lawyer 05-30-2011 15:43

I've always viewed butter as a fungible commodity and don't care what brand it is. Usually buy Land O Lakes or Challenge, but only because that's what the stores around me carry.

I use Country Crock instead of butter for most things.

Would be interested in what Penn and TS have to say on this topic.

wet dog 05-30-2011 16:06

Can't say I know much about cooking, but we still make butter at home.

Secret is, there is no secret, just make sure the kids do all the churning. But do start with room temp cream, don't just go at it after removing the cream from the refrig.

Salt to flavor, ask grandma, said amount is somewhere betweeen a "pinch" or a "dab".

As for hardness, you gotta plan ahead. We make butter in 5 lb. blocks, we freeze most, but go through it rather quickly so a 5 lb. block does not last long. You've got to manage the freezer, to frig., to cubbard scenario. It sucks having to use frozen butter on perfectly toasted bread.

-----------BT-------------

I did witness TS prepare dinner by reducing butter before a grill session, perfect. It was the same night I cut my finger slicing tomatoes.

Blue SpongBob bandages are gay, it was quite embarrassing.

Roguish Lawyer 05-30-2011 16:14

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Originally Posted by wet dog (Post 396591)
Blue SpongBob bandages are gay

Don't say that in front of my boys, they'll beat your ass. ;)

Penn 05-30-2011 17:01

Plugra is high end gourmet butter with a butterfat content in the 82% range. I've never bought it. It was to expensive for a product of marginal utility. Instead, I purchased churn sweet a product produced in upper New York state.
Lately I've been using butter produced by the Amish in Lanchester Pa, it has a deep yellow color and a butterfat content in the 89-92% range. It's perfect for pastry work, I've only tasted it once due to CV issues. Olive oil is my mantra.

wet dog 05-30-2011 17:31

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer (Post 396593)
Don't say that in front of my boys, they'll beat your ass. ;)

Too funny.

A thought just occured to me, 2/3 of the worlds population drinks raw milk. I read recently, that in CA, (and several others states), it is illegal to sell raw milk to your neighbors, in fact, it is illegal to sell farm fresh eggs, but you can give them away, the milk also.

How sad, looking for an explanation, anyone care to enlighted me.

I understand that pastuerization made it possible to transport milk further distances for larger population bases to offer milk, but why make it illegal?

Think of it. Raw milk only forces one to have land, raise livestock, perhaps chickens, raise a hog, vegatable garden. One might attempt making butter, cheese and canning produce. Some might even call that independance.

Roguish Lawyer 05-30-2011 17:38

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Originally Posted by wet dog (Post 396602)
Too funny.

A thought just occured to me, 2/3 of the worlds population drinks raw milk. I read recently, that in CA, (and several others states), it is illegal to sell raw milk to your neighbors, in fact, it is illegal to sell farm fresh eggs, but you can give them away, the milk also.

How sad, looking for an explanation, anyone care to enlighted me.

I understand that pastuerization made it possible to transport milk further distances for larger population bases to offer milk, but why make it illegal?

Think of it. Raw milk only forces one to have land, raise livestock, perhaps chickens, raise a hog, vegatable garden. One might attempt making butter, cheese and canning produce. Some might even call that independance.

It's because no one is capable of deciding what to eat or drink without the government signing off on it first.

Dusty 05-30-2011 18:24

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer (Post 396605)
It's because no one is capable of deciding what to eat or drink without the government signing off on it first.

:D:D:D

wet dog 05-30-2011 18:34

Starting a new trend???
 
Drinking raw milk can only lead to independance.

Ret10Echo 05-30-2011 19:04

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Originally Posted by wet dog (Post 396610)
Drinking raw milk can only lead to independance.

So very true.

Watch "Food Inc"

BTW: In the fridge "Hillendale Farms" butter. Ingredients: Cream, salt.

(It does have the line "Contains milk" following the ingredients list...which I find hilarious)

longrange1947 05-30-2011 19:18

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Originally Posted by wet dog (Post 396602)
Too funny.

A thought just occured to me, 2/3 of the worlds population drinks raw milk. I read recently, that in CA, (and several others states), it is illegal to sell raw milk to your neighbors, in fact, it is illegal to sell farm fresh eggs, but you can give them away, the milk also.

How sad, looking for an explanation, anyone care to enlighted me.

I understand that pastuerization made it possible to transport milk further distances for larger population bases to offer milk, but why make it illegal?

Think of it. Raw milk only forces one to have land, raise livestock, perhaps chickens, raise a hog, vegatable garden. One might attempt making butter, cheese and canning produce. Some might even call that independance.

Pasturization, I believe ended bovine TB spread as well as other milk borne diseases. TB of the eyeball is ugly. Homogenization, I believe made it easier to ship all over, as it stopped seperation of butter fat from the skim.

I'm probably wrong but it sounded good. :D

The liberals probably are thinking they are preventing a resurgence of TB. :D

Actually they are only confused fools.

wet dog 05-30-2011 19:34

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Originally Posted by Ret10Echo (Post 396614)
So very true.

Watch "Food Inc"

BTW: In the fridge "Hillendale Farms" butter. Ingredients: Cream, salt.

(It does have the line "Contains milk" following the ingredients list...which I find hilarious)

Trailer looks interesting, I'll be sure to watch it, thanks.

Content label reminds me of the beach sign that read, "Sign has sharp edges".

mark46th 05-30-2011 19:43

R.L.- Over the last 20 years, there have been breakouts of Listeria here in So Cal. The most common sources for Listeria are raw dairy products. Listeria is fatal about 20% of the time. It is especially hard on pregnant women and their babies.

219seminole 05-30-2011 20:42

I have a French butter keeper to keep the butter on the counter and just right for spreading. Lots of potters make these things, but here's the one I bought:

http://classiclinespottery.com/store...=index&cPath=1

x SF med 05-30-2011 21:45

My doctor made me switch to Smart Balance... I still use butter for baking and sauteeing.

mojaveman 05-30-2011 22:13

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Originally Posted by mark46th (Post 396621)
R.L.- Over the last 20 years, there have been breakouts of Listeria here in So Cal. The most common sources for Listeria are raw dairy products.

Correct, some of it started in the illegal immigrant communities. A friend from high school is a dairy inspector for the state and works side by side with code enforcement officials. Their is mucho illegal food trade going on in California between the Julios.

When I was younger I used to buy tamales from the street vendors but not anymore. The state has cracked down on all of that.

wet dog 05-30-2011 23:04

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Originally Posted by mojaveman (Post 396637)
Correct, it started in the illegal immigrant communities. My friend from high school is a dairy inspector for the state and works side by side with code enforcement officials. Their is mucho illegal food trade going on in California between the Julios. (Hoolios)

When I was younger I used to buy tamales from the street vendors but not anymore. The state has cracked down on all of that.

Food vendors across the world is a dangerous game, got sick once in Cario, Egypt.

I think education has alot to do with it. But to make all food transfers illegal is well, un-American, why can't I obtain food from my neighbor?

mojaveman 05-30-2011 23:13

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Originally Posted by wet dog (Post 396641)
Food vendors across the world is a dangerous game, got sick once in Cario, Egypt.

I think education has alot to do with it. But to make all food transfers illegal is well, un-American, why can't I obtain food from my neighbor?

After getting tired of eating MREs for several weeks while on Operation Bright Star in Alexandria, Egypt in '85 I became violently ill after eating a pita sandwich that I ate in an Egyptian Army kitchen. It hit me while we were traveling in a convoy to Cairo West Airbase. I was in the back of a two and a half and while moving had to drop my pants and hang my rear off the back of the truck and let fly. I had diarrhea so bad that I had to go to the field hospital for a few days. I learned a valuable lesson after that experience.

The problem with the immigrants and illegal transfer of food here also involves meat.

wet dog 05-30-2011 23:35

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Originally Posted by mojaveman (Post 396642)
After becoming tired of eating MREs for several weeks while on Operation Bright Star in Alexandria Egypt in '85 I became violently ill after eating a pita sandwich that I bought in an Egyptian Navy messhall. It hit me as we were traveling in a convoy to Cairo West Airbase. I was in the back of a Deuce and a half and had to drop my pants and hang my rear off the back of the truck and let it go. I had diarrhea so bad that I had to go to the field hospital for a few days. I learned a valuable lesson after that experience.

The problem with the illegals and illegal transfer of food here also involves meats.

Do you think it was the food from the messhall or the water from your canteen? For me, food that is bad, comes up quickly. With the diarrhea thing, I'm betting it was the water.

Sorry to hear the story, makes my stomach ache thinking about it. I've never gotten sick when I was able to vet a vendor by asking a local woman with small children, "...if this place is safe?"

In Lima, Peru - I ate a cooked seafood salad with dinner. The fish was ok., but it was washed in bad water, (i.e., the lettuce). I got the runs 12-18 hours later on my return flight home.

Painful and inconvenient for those sitting beside me. Lima to Miami was fine, the connecting flight stateside sucked. Once I landed, I checked into a hotel for 3 days before I made it home.

VVVV 05-31-2011 05:50

Five Star Butter....

http://www.fivestarbutter.com/Five_S..../Welcome.html

VVVV 05-31-2011 06:10

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Originally Posted by wet dog (Post 396644)
Do you think it was the food from the messhall or the water from your canteen? For me, food that is bad, comes up quickly. With the diarrhea thing, I'm betting it was the water. .


Years ago while traveling down I-75 to Miami, I stopped at a McDonalds near Bradenton, and had a burger and fries. After driving south for about 30 minutes, I began suffering from extremely painful cramps and sweating like a race horse. I had to quickly pull over, drop my pants, and fire for effect while cars were whizzing by at 75 mph six feet away. I was so wet that I had to towel off, and change my shirt before continuing on my way to South Beach.

Dusty 05-31-2011 06:24

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Originally Posted by mark46th (Post 396621)
R.L.- Over the last 20 years, there have been breakouts of Listeria here in So Cal. The most common sources for Listeria are raw dairy products. Listeria is fatal about 20% of the time. It is especially hard on pregnant women and their babies.

Soak your butter in Listerine for 30 minutes prior to use. :D

mugwump 05-31-2011 08:21

Land O Lakes, so I can show future generations of boys the "cut the knees out and put them behind the flapped package" trick. Bewbies.

ETA: Link

Cynic 05-31-2011 12:47

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Originally Posted by mugwump (Post 396702)
Land O Lakes, so I can show future generations of boys the "cut the knees out and put them behind the flapped package" trick. Bewbies.

ETA: Link

LOL! Wow, the things I don't know. :D

longrange1947 05-31-2011 14:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by 219seminole (Post 396626)
I have a French butter keeper to keep the butter on the counter and just right for spreading. Lots of potters make these things, but here's the one I bought:

http://classiclinespottery.com/store...=index&cPath=1

Just bought one in a little pottery shop in Kennebunkport, ME. She said that they were very popular. I can now spread butter on perfectly toasted bread without, a, waitingnfor it to soften, or b, destroying perfectly good toast. Thank you for the info! :)

Cut out the butter box so that it makes doors. Then fold the lid so the knees can be seen in the cut out when the little doors are opened. Cripes, learned that one in the 60s?? :D

delta6 05-31-2011 16:58

Amish butter made in Ohio by legal workers.

Team Sergeant 05-31-2011 17:16

European butter has a higher fat content, fat = flavor.

I'm sure there are butter purists out there that insist on certain types of butter.

If you want to try something cool learn to make clarified butter. Great for sauting.

PSM 05-31-2011 18:01

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 396786)
...learn to make clarified butter. Great for sauting.

Good for camping/RVing/sailing, also, since it won't go rancid if not refrigerated. ;)

Pat

longrange1947 05-31-2011 19:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 396786)
European butter has a higher fat content, fat = flavor.

I'm sure there are butter purists out there that insist on certain types of butter.

If you want to try something cool learn to make clarified butter. Great for sauting.

Hazelnut butter? :D

ZonieDiver 05-31-2011 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 396786)
European butter has a higher fat content, fat = flavor.

I'm sure there are butter purists out there that insist on certain types of butter.

If you want to try something cool learn to make clarified butter. Great for sauting.




Hey! I used to watch Graham Kerr, "The Galloping Gourmet"! I know about clarified butter... I'm just too lazy to use it!

mark46th 06-01-2011 15:46

I use unsalted for baking and popcorn, salted for toast, etc. I have been buying the 4# bulk pack at Sam's or Costco. No complaints so far.

Sigaba 06-01-2011 15:52

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Originally Posted by ZonieDiver (Post 396807)
Hey! I used to watch Graham Kerr, "The Galloping Gourmet"! I know about clarified butter... I'm just too lazy to use it!

He was recently on The Rachel Ray Show (air date 2 March 2011) <<LINK>>. To my disappointment, he said that he now cooks as healthily as possible.

Um. Er.:o I was watching the show to see Zoe Saldana.:)

LibraryLady 06-01-2011 16:38

Unsalted Darigold is my general preference for baking, unless I'm doing something especially decadent, then I'll lay my hands on a European style.

I'm experimenting with Smart Balance 50/50 nowadays, for a little more healthy cooking, though Chocolate Chip Cookies for cookie boxes OCONUS should not by definition be any way construed as nothing less than decadent. ;)

Just an FYI, don't use salted butter for baking, recipes are generally designed for butter without salt. The added salt in the butter can affect the rising properties of what you're making. Chemistry can be fun... :lifter

LL


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