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BadMuther 09-03-2004 01:05

What do you recommend for the average grunt?
 
What do you recommend for the average grunt to pack in his web gear? (2nd line.)

The soldier with little medical experience, but who wants to carry a little more then 2 traumedics.

Right now I'm carrying 2 traumedics, a roll of kerlix, some med tape, and about 6 4x4 dressings.....then I have some small bandaids, butterflies and some betadine.

I'm going to add a tourniquet and see about getting some of the israeli bandages.

What do you recommend NDD?

BadMuther 09-03-2004 20:37

Bump.....:munchin

Smokin Joe 09-03-2004 21:22

Ah bottle full of Mortrin 800's

BadMuther 09-03-2004 23:20

Does that help with the back pain after sleeping in the Sgt's chair all night? :cool:

Smokin Joe 09-03-2004 23:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadMuther
Does that help with the back pain after sleeping in the Sgt's chair all night? :cool:

In fact I need to shed this duty belt the cuffs keep digging into my back....after sitting all night. :cool:

Footmobile 09-04-2004 00:17

I do like the Isreali battle dressing. Carried two on me at all times in Iraq. Very nice piece of med kit. I also like the tournequet from Tactical Medical Solutions.

Razor 09-04-2004 11:06

Footmobile, have you checked out the Cinch-Tight dressing and PriMed gauze? I believe they are in the new IFAKs you guys were issued. The Cinch-Tight is similar to the Israeli dressing, but more compact and it uses a hook instead of the big, awkward plastic yoke. The PriMeds are just bulky gauze, but they're vacuum packed into a very small package, so you could carry 2-3 in the same space as a package of Kerlix.

Footmobile 09-04-2004 11:11

I've seen 'em, but haven't as yet had a chance to train with them yet. The Corpsman I talked to about them seemed pretty happy with the improvements over the old stuff.

BadMuther 09-04-2004 22:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor
Footmobile, have you checked out the Cinch-Tight dressing and PriMed gauze? I believe they are in the new IFAKs you guys were issued. The Cinch-Tight is similar to the Israeli dressing, but more compact and it uses a hook instead of the big, awkward plastic yoke. The PriMeds are just bulky gauze, but they're vacuum packed into a very small package, so you could carry 2-3 in the same space as a package of Kerlix.

Razor's always got the 411 on the good sit... :)

Where's all the SF medics?????? Anyone else?

What makes for a good, personal 1st aid kit for combat?

brownapple 09-05-2004 06:09

For what it is worth, I used to carry one of those "Jungle First Aid Kits" that the Marines all seemed to have, but I loaded it significantly differently than the issue setup.

Included a wide-range antibiotic (10 day supply), a fungicidal creme, betadine, bandaids, Ibu-profin, Iodine, pre-packaged sterile suture sets, small guaze squares, an eye dressing, a battle dressing and a cravat.

ccrn 09-10-2004 11:12

Ive been watching this post hoping more would reply.

Maybe add a good pair of shears, and a small 500cc bottle of normal saline (and syringe) to irrigate if you have the space and dont mind a little extra weight.

Personaly I like kerlix. You can stuff it into a wound and do other things with it too-

ccrn

BadMuther 09-12-2004 12:44

Thanks for the replies.

I was kinda thinking more on the lines of wound care (dressings, gauze, kerlix, whatnot) then meds. I usually always carry a personal pill kit with me-motrin, immodium, whatnot.

hoepoe 09-13-2004 00:27

I'm certainly no medic, but i always carry 2x Tampons in my webbing in addition to that standard issue kit. they're light and apparently work well when needing to "plug-up" bleeding puncture wounds. Can anyone here confirm or dispute this?

Hoepoe

Razor 09-13-2004 08:14

I believe the consensus is that they're better than nothing, but there are other things out there made specifically to do a better job.

Jgood 09-13-2004 10:22

Ill state the obivous how about some gloves.. I also like the EMT shears work well and dont add much weight. What do you carry your med. supplies in BadMuther.
I was thinking of adding quikclot anybody ever use it pros/cons of it.

Sacamuelas 09-13-2004 10:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jgood
I was thinking of adding quikclot anybody ever use it pros/cons of it.

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...ead.php?t=1321 :cool:

Jgood 09-13-2004 10:48

Thanx for the link very good info now i have alot more to research

BadMuther 09-13-2004 23:32

Razor, I thought you were the one that told me that Tampons were a no-no because they were designed not to stop bleeding, but to still allow a flow of blood......

I dig this kit

http://www.cinchtight.com/Products/C...phic_tkit.html

that Razor mentioned.


Jgood, I keep two traumedics in a TT frag pouch.

My other med gear is carried in a molle canteen cover with some other misc. surv. stuff.

C'mon now, where's the medics???? I'll prolly bleed out before they get here and share some wisdom! :)

BadMuther 09-14-2004 09:51

Thought I'd add this link.

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...read.php?t=191

Razor 09-14-2004 10:37

Sorry bubba, I'm not smart enough to give that kind of advice. Bad Ranger! Bad! :)

BadMuther 09-14-2004 11:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor
Sorry bubba, I'm not smart enough to give that kind of advice. Bad Ranger! Bad! :)


My bad-giving O's credit fo bein smart and sit! ;)


I had heard that one before though-that tampons were NOT recommended....


MEDIC!!!!!

:D

TF Kilo 10-04-2004 14:20

Well, basic load for a hooah was one emergency trauma dressing, a roll of kerlex, and a tourniquet.

I carried 4 kerlex, 3 isralies, 2 nose hoses w/ lube, one J-tube, a couple alcohol pens w/ casualty feeder card, 2 IV starter kits w/ saline locks, 2 10cc srynges, and one of the flat 50cc bags in one of these:

http://www.tacticaltailor.com/produc...ltility_pouch/

It worked extremely well for me. I backfed everything into it according to how I would be treating a casualty... IV stuff on the bottom, ETD's, Kerlex, and the T on top. Airways were on the outer pouch along with the feeder card and pens.

What I carried might have been a bit much for the average "hooah" to pack, but considering I was the squad EMT before I went and crosstrained to RMED, I had more to care for than myself. The hooahs packing the ETD, kerlex and T had enough class 8 to be able to treat themselves off of.

BadMuther 10-05-2004 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by TF Kilo
Well, basic load for a hooah was one emergency trauma dressing, a roll of kerlex, and a tourniquet.

I carried 4 kerlex, 3 isralies, 2 nose hoses w/ lube, one J-tube, a couple alcohol pens w/ casualty feeder card, 2 IV starter kits w/ saline locks, 2 10cc srynges, and one of the flat 50cc bags in one of these:

http://www.tacticaltailor.com/produc...ltility_pouch/

It worked extremely well for me. I backfed everything into it according to how I would be treating a casualty... IV stuff on the bottom, ETD's, Kerlex, and the T on top. Airways were on the outer pouch along with the feeder card and pens.

What I carried might have been a bit much for the average "hooah" to pack, but considering I was the squad EMT before I went and crosstrained to RMED, I had more to care for than myself. The hooahs packing the ETD, kerlex and T had enough class 8 to be able to treat themselves off of.

Thanks.




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Viking 10-13-2004 02:56

I'm not a D, I'm a B. Our TM SOP is the med stuff is on the right side of whatever vest you wear. We all carry a TMS touniquet, two rolls of kerlex, a field dressing, an asherman chest seal, a cravat, and two needles for emergency needle decompression. We each also carry a compete IV set in our go rucks.


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