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Mustang Man 04-04-2011 11:22
Barack Obama Officially Announces He's Running In 2012
 
http://gothamist.com/2011/04/04/bara...nnounces_h.php

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President Barack Obama has kicked off his 2012 effort with a campaign video (see below) posted on his website that encourages people to help get out the vote, in hopes of recapturing the grassroots fervor that helped him get elected in 2008. Obama doesn't appear in the video, but many of his supporters do, and one says, "President Obama is one person...Plus he's got a job. We're paying to do a job so we can't ask him to take some time off to get us all energized so we better figure it out."

Politico reports, "An official filing with the Federal Election Commission is expected to come Monday so that Obama can begin fundraising for his campaign. His first official fundraiser is scheduled for April 14 in his hometown of Chicago. Two more are set for the following week, in San Francisco and Los Angeles, with ticket prices ranging from $25 for young adults — “Gen44” — to $2,500 for VIPs." Politico also notes Obama's email message from this morning to supporters:

“We’re doing this now because the politics we believe in does not start with expensive TV ads or extravaganzas, but with you — with people organizing block-by-block, talking to neighbors, co-workers, and friends,” he says, explaining why the launch is coming more than 19 months before Election Day. “And that kind of campaign takes time to build.”

“So even though I’m focused on the job you elected me to do, and the race may not reach full speed for a year or more, the work of laying the foundation for our campaign must start today,” Obama continues in the written message. That includes fundraising for what could be the first-ever $1 billion campaign.



The Caucus points out that unlike his change message in 2008, "Now, Mr. Obama must defend his own unpopular wars, an economic recovery that remains fragile, fiscal policies that have drawn skeptics and energy policies that have stalled in the face of natural and manmade disasters. And most of all, the president must find a way to explain how he made good on promises to change the way Washington conducts itself in spite of a brutally divisive health care fight and an ongoing budget standoff that appears to have bogged down in the same politics that Mr. Obama decried as a candidate in 2008."

Wiseman 04-04-2011 11:44
This is a change we can definitely believe in. Unemployment is definitely a big change...maybe we'll get more of that.

Box 04-04-2011 13:15
silly me...
...I thought he had started his 2012 campaign on 21 January of 2009

AngelsSix 04-04-2011 15:50
Even scarier is the 56.43% (136 people) that said that will vote for him in 2012. That just astounds me.

Box 04-04-2011 18:27
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Even scarier is the 56.43% (136 people) that said that will vote for him in 2012
...and even MORE scarier is that he only needs 51% to win

Red Flag 1 04-04-2011 18:31
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Originally Posted by Billy L-bach (Post 385130)
...and even MORE scarier is that he only needs 51% to win
No help from Acorn this time:rolleyes:.

RF1

slickman777 04-04-2011 19:05
aha-obama saving us money
 
i think that we are not recognizing progress when we see it. this is possibly the first time our supreme commander has saved we lowly tax payers money.... by not appearing in his own friggin commercial.







-gun control is staying on target.

Tress 04-04-2011 19:35
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Originally posted by Red Flag 1:

No help from Acorn this time.
He might also receive less help from his celebrity friends. They do not seem too happy with him at the moment. It seems they feel that he is not as left-leaning as they thought. :boohoo

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thetic...esident-obamaa

And projections are through the roof when considering how much they are thinking of spending for the upcoming election.

“Former West Wing staffer Jim Messina, Obama’s likely campaign manager, has been holding donor meetings around the country, and the president is scheduled to hold a series of fundraisers in New York and California over the next few weeks,” reports Politico.com. “The campaign is expected to raise $750 million to $1 billion.”

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politic...cost-1-billion

Can they not find something else to do with all of that money?

LarryW 04-04-2011 21:19
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Even scarier is the 56.43% (136 people) that said that will vote for him in 2012. That just astounds me.
The 3 kinds of lies: Lies, damn lies, and statistics.

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No help from Acorn this time
Watch. The pinhead is from Chicago. ACORN will revive itself wearing a Union Label.

wet dog 04-05-2011 00:41
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Originally Posted by Aloysius (Post 385162)
And yet the Right has zero to offer, so I guess we are all hoping and wishing at this point in time.

Obama is on his way for a 2nd term because the GOP cannot look into the future and come up with a plan.

They do know what to tell the American people what to be against, but they cannot lead this nation any better than this POTUS.
While I will do everything I can to toss this guy on his ass by casting my free and independant vote, I am bracing myself for another 4 years.

But do not forget, more can happen in a few hours that changes the course of any pre-conceived agenda.

7 Dec 1941
9-11-2001

(next????)

I can think of 5 people who would be great as president, but none of them would take the job.

o.k., maybe two......

greenberetTFS 04-09-2011 14:23
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Originally Posted by LordReagal (Post 385909)
Question. Is it possible to destroy America in 3 years? A lot of you Obama "haters?" seem to think he destroyed the country. Are you guys blaming him personally? Or just blaming him because he is in charge?

Answers: Yes,Yes and Both!.............:mad::mad::mad:

Big Teddy :munchin

echoes 04-09-2011 14:34
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Originally Posted by LordReagal (Post 385909)
Question. Is it possible to destroy America in 3 years? A lot of you Obama haters seem to think he destroyed the country. Are you guys blaming him personally? Or just blaming him because he is in charge?
And... a lot of us Gals, too. :rolleyes:

Is "He" in charge? Hmmm, makes me wonder. "Who-Sane" seems to be following his agenda very closely:

1. Bring about real change= Destroy the economy first.

2. Bow to Dictators= Destroy the trust second.

3. Enact rediculous laws that bring about communism & Islamic Tolerence=

BANG! We Are Dead.:mad:

And your question was what??? Get a clue man, seriously.

Thankfully, there are still Real Americans who can call a spade a spade.

Holly

wet dog 04-09-2011 14:44
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Originally Posted by LordReagal (Post 385909)
Question. Is it possible to destroy America in 3 years? A lot of you Obama haters seem to think he destroyed the country. Are you guys blaming him personally? Or just blaming him because he is in charge?
Yes.

Don't hate him, I just think he's an ass, an idiot, and could not think his way off of dangerous ground.

No, not personally, we began this sliding slope of falling many years ago, but he keeps greasing the rails.

I blame everyone who put him in office and most importantly, the Hollywood suck heads who supported him and the grassroot, punch drinking, door to door HS kids who thought he would make "Change". Well they got that part right, things have changed. He is in charge, for the moment.

Not that I haven't seen a few governments fall in my time.

Seems Oprah has also recently pulled her support of her favorite president, wow, what commitment!

incarcerated 04-09-2011 15:10
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Originally Posted by LordReagal (Post 385909)
Question. Is it possible to destroy America in 3 years? A lot of you Obama haters seem to think he destroyed the country. Are you guys blaming him personally? Or just blaming him because he is in charge?
Nice stereotype.
Care to be more specific?
Please refer me to the posts in which ‘we’ claimed that Obama destroyed the country.

echoes 04-09-2011 16:26
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Originally Posted by LordReagal (Post 385925)
On the first page someone said he was running the country into the ground. So he is destroying the country.
This must be a joke right? Are you Lord whatthefuckever, honestly saying that? This must be a joke, right?.....:munchin

Back onto the thread topic, Obama must think running for election is more importan t than running America, IMHO. Can we please bring back Regan?

Holly

MtnGoat 04-09-2011 17:10
I like to see what he will try to fix this year??

All of those people in the Military and Veterans that voted for him have be doing some thinking this week.

Gypsy 04-10-2011 14:15
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Originally Posted by Billy L-bach (Post 385082)
silly me...
...I thought he had started his 2012 campaign on 21 January of 2009
Makes two of us.

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Originally Posted by LordReagal (Post 385925)
On the first page someone said he was running the country into the ground. So he is destroying the country.
Every chance he gets. Perhaps you should present your arguments as to why he is not, since there are plenty of posts which reflect the mindset of many folks here when it comes to the current president. Or maybe you just enjoy stirring the pot...

kgoerz 04-10-2011 15:41
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Originally Posted by LordReagal (Post 385909)
Question. Is it possible to destroy America in 3 years? A lot of you Obama haters seem to think he destroyed the country. Are you guys blaming him personally? Or just blaming him because he is in charge?
Don't criticize peoples opinions. Argue with them, fine. Calling everyone a Obama Hater, not an argument.

He is the most inexperienced modern day president we have had. It shows every day. For example. How aloof he is when making a decision

olhamada 04-10-2011 20:04
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Originally Posted by LordReagal (Post 385925)
On the first page someone said he was running the country into the ground. So he is destroying the country.

You mean like a Kenyan born Muslim Manchurian candidate? :eek::D

How much you wanna bet, that in 2012, we'll be calling Trump, "President"?

trvlr 04-11-2011 17:45
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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004 (Post 386081)
On foreign policy, he is too much of a "global" president for me. He acts like America is just one country among many other equals, as opposed to the world leader.
IMO this is one of his best qualities. The thought of conventional "boots on the ground" in Syria, Yemen, Egypt, Libya, and Tunisia simultaneously gives me pause. I think we've dodged quite a few bullets recently thanks to the POTUS' 'indecisiveness.'

I was pleased to see Senator Mitt Romney throw his name into the hat. I am eager to see what kind of reasonable fixes he will campaign for. IMO it's going to be rough going for the elephants if they can't get a united front against the incumbent.

rdret1 04-12-2011 12:33
I don't hate him, I just think he is an idiot and does not need to be re-elected. My reasons are many. A few are:
1. Birthing controversy aside, I don't believe he is qualified by any means.

2. Since he has been POTUS, the number of bureaucrats making over $150K has doubled, most in the D.C. area.

3. Since Jan '09, $670B in tax increases and he is the first to want to bring up new taxes this year.

4. His insitency to keep "Holy Grail" social programs at the expense of defense, law enforcement, infrastructure and other programs that are truly necessary.

5. Kowtowing to foreign dignitaries!

6. Failure to take the border/illegal immigration issue seriously and allowing the Justice Department to actually sue a sovereign state.

7. Obamacare! Nuff said about that.

I could continue but that should be sufficient.

Pete 04-12-2011 12:57
NO
 
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Originally Posted by LordReagal (Post 386204)
I am not criticizing anything. I was just searching for opinions and answers. What makes a good President? And isn't every President in his first term inexperienced?

No. Most presidents have had some executive experience. Even Palin had it. That means making a decision. It also means being able to gather people to your staff who are experienced - so they can give you their opinion - and then you make a decision.

A lot of ex governors become presidents - not too many senators. We are paying for that now. The prez is a politician and has surrounded himself with election campaign type people - yes men for him - an echo chamber so to say.

echoes 04-12-2011 14:04
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Originally Posted by rdret1 (Post 386284)
I don't hate him, I just think he is an idiot and does not need to be re-elected. My reasons are many. A few are:
1. Birthing controversy aside, I don't believe he is qualified by any means.

2. Since he has been POTUS, the number of bureaucrats making over $150K has doubled, most in the D.C. area.

3. Since Jan '09, $670B in tax increases and he is the first to want to bring up new taxes this year.

4. His insitency to keep "Holy Grail" social programs at the expense of defense, law enforcement, infrastructure and other programs that are truly necessary.

5. Kowtowing to foreign dignitaries!

6. Failure to take the border/illegal immigration issue seriously and allowing the Justice Department to actually sue a sovereign state.

7. Obamacare! Nuff said about that.

I could continue but that should be sufficient.
Very well articulated Sir.

It seems to me that most of those who are, "on the fence" as to the dire reality our great Nation faces, are not criticizing anything, but just searching for opinions and answers. :rolleyes:

"If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything," comes to mind.

Holly:munchin

Hand 04-12-2011 14:35
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Promise - Create a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners
Promise - Close the Guantanamo Bay Detention Center
Promise - “If American workers are being denied their right to organize when I'm in the White House, I will put on a comfortable pair of shoes and I will walk on that picket line with you as president of the United States."
Promise - Support repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA)
Promise - Forbid companies in bankruptcy from giving executives bonuses
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ameter/browse/


The only one of the few promises in this list that he actually succeeded on keeping so far is highlighted in a flamboyant color.

I remember the first one leading to a huge 'bailout' bill that never actually went to the homeowners.

I don't think we can borrow enough money from China to finance this...President for another 4 year spending spree.

Respectfully

Sigaba 04-13-2011 11:08
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Originally Posted by LordReagal (Post 386204)
What makes a good President?
IMO, skill and luck. The incumbent's lack of the former is compounding the absence of the latter.

echoes 04-13-2011 16:39
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Originally Posted by LordReagal (Post 386351)
His response was indeed very well articulated. I liked it a lot actually and It shows that I need pay more attention to politics. As for you i am disapoint.
sir,

IMHO, nope!

Politics are focused on by a ton of folks in this Country, some for personal gain, some for political gain, some for emotional gain...(very sad indeed.) However, no dissapointment here, as I do not focus on politics, as my posts here on PS can attest.

I try and steer clear of the Soapbox forum, as it is just a headache for me personally, and far more intelligent folks can debate the real reasons...politically.

Personally my belief is that skill and luck have nothing to do with it, just the stupidity of some Americans, and their LAZINESS. That is what I attest our current Presidents title too.

Those who voted for him...were very, very lazy.:munchin

Holly

Holly

wet dog 04-13-2011 17:48
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Originally Posted by LordReagal (Post 386204)
What makes a good President?
The measuring bar has changed, but I'd take someone who has labored by his own strength to build fortune and opportunities for himself and others.

One also with proven executive experience.

I can think of several jobs that are by far much more difficult then that of president or senator. School teacher, police officer, firefighter are three vocations with verticals that have uper executive rolls at district, state and federal levels.

I'd take a multi national energy executive with banking/bond experience or a rurual telephone company executive responsible in making payroll for 5,000 direct employees, a timber lumber manager, a rancher, the director of a port authority. An economist, a child hospital administrator, or the guy down the street.

The greatest leaders this country has ever had have come from its ranks, those closely connected to its citizens, approachable, average, common.

In our simularities, we maintain our core.

Todd 1 04-13-2011 20:48
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Originally Posted by echoes (Post 386452)


Politics are focused on by a ton of folks in this Country, some for personal gain, some for political gain, some for emotional gain...(very sad indeed.)

Personally my belief is that skill and luck have nothing to do with it, just the stupidity of some Americans, and their LAZINESS. That is what I attest our current Presidents title too.

Those who voted for him...were very, very lazy.:munchin

Holly

IMVHO your Absofuckinlutly 100% correct and said it alot more tactful than I would have.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOZ-E...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8...eature=related

drymartini66 04-14-2011 17:51
Obama runnig again? I feel safer already.

rdret1 04-15-2011 23:25
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Originally Posted by wet dog (Post 386463)
The measuring bar has changed, but I'd take someone who has labored by his own strength to build fortune and opportunities for himself and others.

One also with proven executive experience.

I can think of several jobs that are by far much more difficult then that of president or senator. School teacher, police officer, firefighter are three vocations with verticals that have uper executive rolls at district, state and federal levels.

I'd take a multi national energy executive with banking/bond experience or a rurual telephone company executive responsible in making payroll for 5,000 direct employees, a timber lumber manager, a rancher, the director of a port authority. An economist, a child hospital administrator, or the guy down the street.

The greatest leaders this country has ever had have come from its ranks, those closely connected to its citizens, approachable, average, common.

In our simularities, we maintain our core.
This got me to thinking and I decided to do a little looking. I was surprised at what I found. The VAST majority of our past presidents have been lawyers. Some with or without military experience. This is the breakdown:

1. George Washington - Planter , Soldier

2. John Adams - Lawyer

3. Thomas Jefferson - Lawyer

4. James Madison - Lawyer

5. James Monroe - Lawyer

6. John Quincy Adams - Lawyer

7. Andrew Jackson - Lawyer , Soldier

8. Martin Van Buren - Lawyer

9. William Henry Harrison - Soldier

10. John Tyler - Lawyer

11. James Polk - Lawyer

12. Zachary Taylor - Soldier

13. Millard Fillmore - Lawyer

14. Franklin Pierce - Lawyer, public official

15. James Buchanan - Lawyer

16. Abe Lincoln - Lawyer

17. Andrew Johnson - Tailor, public official

18. Ulysses S. Grant - Soldier

19. Rutherford B. Hayes - Lawyer

20. James Garfield - Teacher, public official

21. Chester Arthur - Lawyer

22/24. Grover Cleveland - Lawyer

23. Benjamin Harrison - Lawyer

25. William McKinley - Lawyer

26. Theodore Roosevelt - Author, Soldier/Hunter, Lawyer, public official

27. William Howard Taft - Lawyer, public official

28. Woodrow Wilson - Teacher, public official

29. Warren G. Harding - Editor/Publisher

30. Calvin Coolidge - Lawyer

31. Herbert Hoover - Engineer

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt - Lawyer, public official

33. Harry Truman - Farmer, Soldier, public official

34. Dwight D. Eisenhower - Soldier

35. John F. Kennedy - Author, Sailor, public official

36. Lyndon B. Johnson - Teacher, public official

37. Richard Nixon - Lawyer, public official

38. Gerald Ford - Lawyer, public official

39. Jimmie Carter - Farmer, public official

40. Ronald Reagan - Actor, public official

41. George H.W. Bush - Businessman, public official

42. William J. Clinton - Lawyer, public official

43. George W. Bush - Businessman

44. BHO - Lawyer, community agitator

After reading the list, you can make your own assumptions. Of course on many of them where "public official" is listed equates to "Governor"; not all though. From reading history and memory from my life time, "Greatness" as a president had little to do with past occupational experience and more to do with personal and moral convictions. In my lifetime, JFK;Reagan; and GHW Bush would be good examples. From an historical perspective, the first seven; Lincoln; US Grant; Teddy Roosevelt; FDR (arguably); and Ike. Those are just my opinion of course. YMMV

wet dog 04-16-2011 10:11
Lawyers, good point
 
Law school is rather a new concept. Years past, and I say recently, (1930's) Law Schools became required before the state bar exams. Before that, if one could speak as to the law, he had the job.

My grandfather, born 1903, interned as a lawyer in a local office working for the county commissioner, he was 18 years old.

Before he was 20, he was representing his own clients, depositions between land owners, canal companies, ranchers, miners, railroad engineers, surveyors and other business owners.

He never left ranching, or the rurual business communities of Wyoming, but represented many clients all through the 1950's, 60's and 70's who had business interests regionally, (Omaha, Salt Lake City, Pheonix, Denver). Ran for Public office, was elected as county commissioner, advised Gerry Spence on how to win some rather high profile cases.

When "insurance companies" first formed, they were nothing more than ship owners, financially backed by "states", (Spain, France, England) to ensure pirating activities would be "mitigated" and "reduced". Functioning to write law in order to pool potential losses.

Matthrew, Mark, Luke and John, (one banker-tax rep., one Lawyer, and two speach writer interns).

Have we gone so far down the path, that a LBJ looks good?

At least Teddy Roosevelt wore a .45 while in the office, shooting with G-men on the lawn during lunch breaks.


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