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TerribleTobyt 08-15-2004 16:56

The US Mens B/B Team...
 
...took it on the chin from the team from Puerto Rico.

Ambush Master 08-15-2004 17:05

According to the announcers, most of the "Super" guys that were on the " Qualifying" team refused to go !!! WE need to change those rules and if you play on the qualifier, YOU GO !!!!

Roguish Lawyer 08-15-2004 17:34

Didn't see the game, but I hate the NBA and the attitudes of what I perceive to be 9/10s of the players. I suspect that bad attitudes probably played a major part in the loss.

QRQ 30 08-15-2004 17:57

Spoiled wimps. I dodn't watch but I bet they cried the whole time. We shoulda sent the WBA players. They can shoot.

DanUCSB 08-15-2004 18:30

Men's basketball team? Watch me not care. I like the Olympics, mind you; it's American professional sports, and the attitudes that they produce, that make me retch. No sympathy.

The Reaper 08-15-2004 21:24

Did you see the post game interview?

Total lack of remorse or acceptance of responsibility by the players.

Sort of like the NBA.

Wish it was college players only. That would be a much better game.

TR

Bill Harsey 08-15-2004 21:29

I held fire on this until now. I HATE watching mens professional basketball any time. I saw it on the Olympics coverage today and thought crap, at least I owe it to the other country to see who's playing the US. It was just before half time and the NBA chumps was getting whupped. I watched the whole game just to enjoy that. What poor attitudes, they are an embarrassment to the Olympics (and whole world) not because they lost a game but because of the attitude shown to the other team and refs. Screw them. What piece of crap prima donnas.

QRQ 30 08-15-2004 21:44

IMHO they have been arrogant a-holes from the first "Dream Team". They always draw the biggest cheers when they lose. There was a myth that they were the best in the world and should be allowed to compete against the pseudo-pro athletes of the Soviet Union. The problem is that when they turn pro they totally forget the concept of basketball as a team sport. They also no longer know how to function without that extra step, or two, or three or more afforded by NBA referees deprnding upon their stature, so they can entertain the crowds with their illegal above the rim antics. At least the Globe Trotters don't pretend to play by official basketball rules.

Today, its not the Soviets beating them but Latino and lessor Europaen teams.

Sdiver 08-15-2004 22:08

I am in full aggrement with everyone here...I too hate Basketball and the NBA. Bunch of over priced, crying, spoiled kids.

The 1st "Dream Team" was okay to watch. Once the IOC let pros play in any Olympic event, it was inevitable for that to happen.

I'm still steamed that we couldn't even field a frikkin BASEBALL team, for these games.:mad:

DanUCSB 08-15-2004 22:49

That's where I'm a little conflicted. I don't mind pros being in the Olympics... short of drugs, part of the thrill of watching the Olympics is seeing the -best- in the world. Not the second-stringers that couldn't make the NBA.

However, I realize that all their petty antics is gonna necessarily come with that. American pro sports breed crybabies, whiners, and selfish bastards. Maybe my true joy is watching the rich bastards lose to Estonians (or whoever). I want the best of both worlds... I want to see the finest in athletic skill, but I also want to see decent sportsmanship and humility. Reckon you can't have everything. :(

Roguish Lawyer 08-16-2004 10:35

Quote:

Originally posted by The Reaper
Wish it was college players only. That would be a much better game.
Agreed. I still like the college game.

QRQ 30 08-16-2004 10:49

The college game is good and I prefer it to the NBA. On the other hand there are some good semi-o-pro players out there also. The rules are the rules and we were taking a beating before they were changed. I would like to see a national team like other countries have. This would be a full time job. They could go on world tours like other teams. There are even a few NBA stars who would represent us well -- Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnet come to mind but there are many more. The real high profile pros would have to do it out of love for the game and their country since we could never match their compensation.:lifter

The Reaper 08-16-2004 10:54

Hey, just write into the contract that the NBA Champs (or the NCAA #1 team) are the U.S. Team and agree to represent the country at all international meets.

Better a team that plays together than this All-Star pick-up team.

Maybe some retired players would still like to compete, like MJ or Malone?

TR

DunbarFC 08-16-2004 10:57

When you think about it this team was picked to sell merchandise - Iverson and LeBron James jerseys

It wasn't picked as the best basketball team we could field

It's like we picked a bunch of And1 street ball players and sent them out to dunk the world into submission

USA Basketball needs to realize that the NBA game while popular, isn't going to win you squat in the world game

Guy 08-17-2004 04:26

Never been to a NBA game and will never go!

I'm glad they got their "prima dona" asses whipped. I like swimming.:cool:

That guy "Phelps" from the US swim team is on point, not many people train on XMAS Day!:lifter

Bill Harsey 08-17-2004 08:33

Quote:

Originally posted by Guy
Never been to a NBA game and will never go!

I'm glad they got their "prima dona" asses whipped. I like swimming.:cool:

That guy "Phelps" from the US swim team is on point, not many people train on XMAS Day!:lifter

Hey Guy, Thanks for bringing up swimming, this is a swimming family here (wife and kids all compete year around) The media put all the hype on Phelps, not him. He's doing a marathon in swimming with all the prelims, semi finals and finals he's trying to do. He only wanted one gold an he's already got that.

DunbarFC 08-17-2004 09:38

Quote:

Originally posted by The Reaper
Hey, just write into the contract that the NBA Champs (or the NCAA #1 team) are the U.S. Team and agree to represent the country at all international meets.



TR

Looks like Dick Vitale agrees with you sir

http://espn.go.com/dickvitale/vcolum...SA-future.html

Guy 08-17-2004 13:04

Quote:

Originally posted by Bill Harsey
Hey Guy, Thanks for bringing up swimming, this is a swimming family here (wife and kids all compete year around) The media put all the hype on Phelps, not him. He's doing a marathon in swimming with all the prelims, semi finals and finals he's trying to do. He only wanted one gold an he's already got that.
I watch him all the time, they said he trained 365 days a year...Damn!

I'm from a swimming family also...can you believe that?

They had a diving competition in Iraq at Saddams pool. I didn't compete for fear of injury. The platform and springboard were too close in proximity.

Sacamuelas 08-17-2004 13:10

Quote:

Originally posted by Guy
I'm from a swimming family also...can you believe that?
Yeah , Why?:munchin

Air.177 08-17-2004 13:18

Quote:

Originally posted by Sacamuelas
Yeah , Why?:munchin
I think it may have something to do with that "Excellent Tan" he mentioned elsewhere.

But what do I Know:munchin

Sacamuelas 08-17-2004 13:55

I know what he was referring to in his post... I was joking. :p

and hoping someone besides Ambush Master's son would take the bait in my ambush. HAHA :D

Bill Harsey 08-17-2004 15:53

Quote:

Originally posted by Guy


I'm from a swimming family also...can you believe that?


YES! I just couldn't figure out how what firearm you swam with that wasn't adversely affected by the chlorine. Very cool Guy!

Air.177 08-17-2004 15:55

Quote:

Originally posted by Bill Harsey
YES! I just couldn't figure out how what firearm you swam with that wasn't adversely affected by the chlorine. Very cool Guy!
Hell, You can FIRE glocks in swimming pools.

Guy 08-17-2004 16:32

Quote:

Originally posted by Sacamuelas
Yeah , Why?:munchin
I grew up on Long Island, NY :cool:

Don't get me on a roll with sarcasm...I get an ass chewing all the time about that sh*t!:o

Bill Harsey 08-17-2004 16:38

Quote:

Originally posted by Guy
I grew up on Long Island, NY :cool:

Don't get me on a roll with sarcasm...I get an ass chewing all the time about that sh*t!:o

Ok, No sarcasm. Long Island! Town or country where you grew up? Ok, I've only heard there is some countryside on Long Island. I hear interesting fishing stories from there.

Bravo1-3 08-18-2004 13:05

Most of the NBA players don't want to risk a multi-million dollar career by being injured at the games. I can't say I blame them, but I still don't like it.

I haven't watched an NBA game in 25 years.

Even college ball has turned into the preview of the NBA. Up here we've got the Portland Trail Blazers. These jackasses are nothing more than a gang. Every month one of them is getting into trouble: DUI, No License, No Insurance, Possesion of significant quantities of Marijuana, Assault, etc...

It's common enough that the team managment has hire babysitters for many of the players.

Considerig their terrible record, they're the highest paid team in the NBA IMHO.

The guys who make the Olymipc Games worth watching are the Phelps' and the Mariel Zagunis' of the world. I can watch these NBA bitches play by turning on ESPN whenever I feel like it, but I don't get to see the real athletes play until the games roll around.

DanUCSB 08-18-2004 13:41

Hell yes on the Mariel Zagunis. And don't forget Sada Jacobson, who took the bronze in the same event.

In case you didn't know, the Americans traditionally lose in fencing, every time. I believe this is the first American fencing gold (men or women) ever, and the first medal at all since 1984. Way to go ladies.

Yeah, I'm a fencer. We all have our nerdy habits... at least it's not dressage. :D

TerribleTobyt 08-18-2004 15:16

Lotsa baggin on the NBA and its playahs. And prolly rightfully so. Frankly, most of the "Star" NBA players elected to stay home because of "security concerns." And some of them, frankly couldn't be bothered to represent their country.

Its been mentioned here that a National Team should be chosen, whose only "job" is to train for the Olynmpics, as other nations do. I offer that the rosters of many nations are peppered with NBA players, ie, Manu Ginoblil from Argentina (Spurs), Carlos Arroyo from PR (not sure the team), and several from Croatia are on NBA rosters.

I'm not defending the ego-maniacs of the NBA, but allow me to say that MY San Antonio Spurs are a team of a buncha truly nice guys who do alot for our community, and they win!!!!! Tim Duncan is the consummate team player, as well as arguably the best player in the NBA, and The Admiral, David Robinson retired jes this past year. Volumns could be written about David's accomplishments on and off the court!!!

So, not all players in the NBA are playahs.

QRQ 30 08-18-2004 15:27

I always enjoy it when the Spurs win. They are a truly great team without the overblown egos and tempers.

Bill Harsey 08-18-2004 18:15

Quote:

Originally posted by TerribleTobyt
Lotsa baggin on the NBA and its playahs. And prolly rightfully so. Frankly, most of the "Star" NBA players elected to stay home because of "security concerns." And some of them, frankly couldn't be bothered to represent their country.

Its been mentioned here that a National Team should be chosen, whose only "job" is to train for the Olynmpics, as other nations do. I offer that the rosters of many nations are peppered with NBA players, ie, Manu Ginoblil from Argentina (Spurs), Carlos Arroyo from PR (not sure the team), and several from Croatia are on NBA rosters.

I'm not defending the ego-maniacs of the NBA, but allow me to say that MY San Antonio Spurs are a team of a buncha truly nice guys who do alot for our community, and they win!!!!! Tim Duncan is the consummate team player, as well as arguably the best player in the NBA, and The Admiral, David Robinson retired jes this past year. Volumns could be written about David's accomplishments on and off the court!!!

So, not all players in the NBA are playahs.

Now you ruined my rant against the NBA, I'll have to watch the Spurs.

DunbarFC 08-19-2004 07:44

Well after being down at half time they managed to beat Austraila

The Reaper 08-19-2004 08:28

Quote:

Originally posted by DunbarFC
Well after being down at half time they managed to beat Austraila
Noted basketball powerhouse.

Anyone watching the women's BB games?

I do not normally, but this team plays hard, sticks together, and can shoot.

Maybe we should schedule them against the men?

TR

DunbarFC 08-19-2004 09:16

Quote:

Originally posted by The Reaper
Noted basketball powerhouse.

Anyone watching the women's BB games?

I do not normally, but this team plays hard, sticks together, and can shoot.

Maybe we should schedule them against the men?

TR

You know honestly that might not be a bad idea

The women play more pure basketball which is what the world plays

Might help get the guys ready for the type of game they'll be facing

The Reaper 08-19-2004 09:32

I would pay money to see that.

Can you imagine the disrespect all of the playas would get for losing, or just giving up points to a women's team?

The girls also do not seem to believe that it is beneath them to pass the ball or play defense.

TR

DunbarFC 08-27-2004 13:19

Is it wrong I was rooting for Argentina ?

QRQ 30 08-27-2004 13:43

Quote:

Originally posted by DunbarFC
Is it wrong I was rooting for Argentina ?
Your choice. I watched the game and didn't see anything negative about the USA team. They were just outplayed. They were beaten and dudn't beat themselves.

Ginoboli plays for the SPURS. He took eleven shots and scored 28 points -- how good is that?:cool:

As long as the USA team is beaten squarely and doesn't cry and whine about it there is no disgrace. Argentina was also the first team to have beaten NBA players. That was when the myth of NBA invincibility ceased.

It does appear that they may have been restrained from being overly aggressive, by some higher authority. Perhaps that is because of our position in world public opinion. I don't know if they were lax or were restrained. For the most part, all of our olympians have been less boiustrous than in the past. If that is the case, let's not take it out on the players.

Bill Harsey 08-30-2004 09:02

Quote:

Originally posted by The Reaper
Noted basketball powerhouse.

Anyone watching the women's BB games?

I do not normally, but this team plays hard, sticks together, and can shoot.

Maybe we should schedule them against the men?

TR

Didn't see any broadcasts of the womens games from my location but a huge congratulations is in order!! Well Done USA Women!


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