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NousDefionsDoc 07-02-2004 16:07

Beret Expert - AM, Take your blood pressure Meds Before Reading
 
Quote:

IIRC, the first SF soldiers wore green berets as a stunt to get JFK's attention on a visit to Fort Bragg. They picked green berets because they thought the Royal Marines looked cool. No-one was more surprised than they when Kennedy made it their trademark.
Good to know I spent almost two years working my butt off to earn a "stunt" that looked cool.

BMT (RIP) 07-02-2004 16:45

Beret Expert - AM, Take your blood pressure Meds Before Reading
 
Damn NDD!! I was only cool 11 of my 67 years!!!

BMT
Jr. FOG

NousDefionsDoc 07-02-2004 16:49

LOL

Amazing how many experts there are in the world.

Team Sergeant 07-02-2004 17:45

Where did you get the quote from?

NousDefionsDoc 07-02-2004 17:56

Quote:

Originally posted by Team Sergeant
Where did you get the quote from?
ww..naw, I'm embarrassed to admit I was there. LOL

I thought it was cute...:munchin

QRQ 30 07-02-2004 19:36

I wouldn't call it a stunt but I believe Kennedy's visit was the first time the beret was worn in formation and in garrison. Until then it was only worn in the field.

The part of coming from the British Royal Commando is also true. However, I think it had to do with heritage rather than "cuteness or neato".

As with most lies, exagerations, propaganda, etc., it is based on fact.

The Reaper 07-02-2004 19:36

Re: Beret Expert - AM, Take your blood pressure Meds Before Reading
 
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Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc


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IIRC, the first SF soldiers wore green berets as a stunt to get JFK's attention on a visit to Fort Bragg. They picked green berets because they thought the Royal Marines looked cool. No-one was more surprised than they when Kennedy made it their trademark.
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Good to know I spent almost two years working my butt off to earn a "stunt" that looked cool.

Jackassery.

I am sure that news will come as a great surprise to General Yarborough who received the authorization and the original 1953 Green Beret designer, Herb Brucker.

The President called ahead to ASK if they were planning to wear the beret during his visit, and signed a Presidential authorization to make it happen.

What idiot posted that and where?

TR

NousDefionsDoc 07-02-2004 19:42

Boss, I respectfully refuse to answer on the grounds that I will personally receive an unmerciful teasing and taunting by the members of this esteemed body.:D

Sacamuelas 07-02-2004 19:43

ROTFLMAO :boohoo

Team Sergeant 07-02-2004 19:46

Quote:

Originally posted by Sacamuelas
ROTFLMAO :boohoo
Laugh it up tooth boy.... Remember he who laughs last....

TS

NousDefionsDoc 07-02-2004 19:49

Da Hat Info

LOL - Tooth Boy? :D

Nein mention of the of the Queen's Own 18th Homosexual Royal Commandos and Tank Guards.:D

Sacamuelas 07-02-2004 19:50

Boss, I respectfully refuse to quit laughing on the grounds that I will personally receive an unmerciful teasing and taunting by the members of this esteemed body if I pass up these rare opportunities to return fire.:D

LOL

QRQ 30 07-02-2004 20:21

Just to be accurate Special Forces was chartered in 1953. JFK officially authorized it in 1961. QRQ got his in 1964.

http://www.groups.sfahq.com/sf_heral...et/history.htm

NousDefionsDoc 07-02-2004 20:25

Quote:

Originally posted by QRQ 30
Just to be accurate Special Forces was chartered in 1953. JFK officially authorized it in 1961. QRQ got his in 1964.

http://www.groups.sfahq.com/sf_heral...et/history.htm

LOL - DAMN! Ok, you win.











For now:D

Bill Harsey 07-02-2004 20:34

Re: Re: Beret Expert - AM, Take your blood pressure Meds Before Reading
 
Quote:

Originally posted by The Reaper
Jackassery.

I am sure that news will come as a great surprise to General Yarborough who received the authorization and the original 1953 Green Beret designer, Herb Brucker.

The President called ahead to ASK if they were planning to wear the beret during his visit, and signed a Presidential authorization to make it happen.

What idiot posted that and where?

TR

I made a knife for an extraordinary gentleman who is retired SF. His name is William Yarborough. DO NOT piss off the knifemaker who is honored with designing the knife who bears this mans name. I concur with Reaper, that's the history I have from a very good source.

Razor 07-06-2004 15:49

10th SFG(A)'s first duty day was 19 Jun 1952.

QRQ 30 07-07-2004 08:26

I Stand Corrected!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Razor
10th SFG(A)'s first duty day was 19 Jun 1952.
Thanks Razor. The 10th deployed to Germany in 1953.

Razor 07-07-2004 14:32

No worries. :)

SP5IC 07-09-2004 17:54

So how do you guys get that cute thingee under your user name. I'm just a retired 12B2S, that ought to explain why I had to ask.

Ambush Master 07-09-2004 18:42

Quote:

Originally posted by oldSF
So how do you guys get that cute thingee under your user name. I'm just a retired 12B2S, that ought to explain why I had to ask.
PM out to you. Please make commo.

Take care.
Martin

Scotty 07-27-2004 12:29

Berets
 
I'll bet ya'lls weren't made by KANGOL like the ones in the RA today. Goes to show why so many young hooahs look like pizza chefs and hoodlems rather that Warriors.

Scotty

PS - I hear ND Doc is allergic to manhole covers, but cannot confirm at this time. Still avoiding 'em like the plague, Doc? :D

NousDefionsDoc 07-29-2004 15:34

Of course I'm avoiding them. I've changed my PT program - I now am Naked Warrior! :lifter

Team Sergeant 07-29-2004 16:32

Quote:

Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
I now am Naked Warrior!
I think thats a little more information than we wanted to hear....:D

Scotty 07-30-2004 13:48

LOL, while I agree it's TMI, I think we all expected it. :D

Gabba gabba hey, Naked Warrior. Beware of latinas with machetes!

Scotty

Solid 07-30-2004 13:55

Quote:

Beware of latinas with machetes!
*shivers*

:eek:

The Reaper 07-30-2004 13:56

Quote:

Originally posted by Scotty
LOL, while I agree it's TMI, I think we all expected it. :D

Gabba gabba hey, Naked Warrior. Beware of latinas with machetes!

Scotty

Worse yet, Smatchets.

TR

Scotty 08-01-2004 16:24

LOL
 
Damn, Sir. I forgot about the SMATCHET! Good times.

Scotty

SP5IC 08-02-2004 17:38

I'll bite, what is a SMATCHET?

The Reaper 08-02-2004 17:46

Quote:

Originally posted by oldSF
I'll bite, what is a SMATCHET?
Mr. Harsey!!!

TR

Solid 08-03-2004 02:22

Wait... using proper nomenclature wouldn't that question read-

what is a SMATCHET! ?

:D

Withdrawing...

Solid

SFENGR 08-13-2004 06:52

Guys,

If anyone wants to read the entire SF history to date, you may want to pick up (if you don't alreay have) a copy of , "Special Forces, The First Fifty Years." Is was pubished in 2002 for the Special Forces Association by Faircourt LLC.

Contact the SFA and ask them if they still have copies. The SFA address is : SFAHQ@aol.com

My questions about the beret - I have the ans is you're interested..

1. How many of you know how to select the right size and then shape it correctly so that it doesn't hang over your ear and face?

This is the biggest gripe I have about the newbies, esp now with the Black Beret given to all of the troops by SHITneski.
Also -

2. How many have ripped out the liner to make it cooler..and the 100% prize for beers -

3. How many have replaced the liners with parachute silk with an embroidered design..?

4. where do you stow it when in the field, wearing your Boonie Hat? And why?

De Oppresso Liber,

QRQ 30 08-13-2004 07:23

1. I never had a problem with the Fleur d'lis. Shrinking can help.

2. No.

3. No.

4. Wall locker.

I always felt that 2 & 3 was for cherries trying to be "cool".:D

The Reaper 08-13-2004 07:50

The new ones have no liners.

TR

NousDefionsDoc 08-13-2004 08:08

1. Yes
2. Yes, not the one I have left though. I know about the prize as well.
3. No
4. We got away from taking them to the field. But left cargo pocket. I know why as well.


How'd I do?

QRQ 30 08-13-2004 08:58

CRS struck again. I have to admit that at one time we were issued berets with a thick plastic liner. That had to go!!!

SFENGR 08-13-2004 09:28

OK guys,

Here are my answers -

1. How many of you know how to select the right size and then shape it correctly so that it doesn't hang over your ear and face?

Ans - I was taught to get a beret that was 1-2 sizes smaller and stretch if to fit. That way, it wouldn't have the damn overhang that you see on some troopers - both SF, Ranger, and Airborne don't seem to have not passed this trick along.

This is the biggest gripe I have about the newbies, esp now with the Black Beret given to all of the troops by SHITneski.
Also -

2. How many have ripped out the liner to make it cooler..and the 100% prize for beers -

Like Tery indicated, the old style had either a plastic liner or something that looked like quilted insulation. Too damn hot in the sub or tropical areas if you were in garrsion.

3. How many have replaced the liners with parachute silk with an embroidered design..?

I lot of the guys on Oki did that simply because they could. We had a bunch of people that catered to SF, makng Tigers, plaques, special gear that couldn't be bought or procured thru the S-4. I guess we felt that it made the beret unique. I have a dragon in mine along with my name and SSAN.

4. where do you stow it when in the field, wearing your Boonie Hat? And why?

I usually stowed it in my right leg pocket, only because I'm right handed. It was to provide instant recognition to the friendly FACs or other airborne dudes looking of the bad guys. If all you had was your boonie hat, you could easily be mistaken for the bad guys. SAMO SAMO in Iraq and Afghanland I would imagine.

Perhaps Terry had it easier and left his in the locker because he was a commo dude and had instant commo withthe flyboys. HEH HEH.

QRQ 30 08-13-2004 09:39

Actually, I spent most of my time in RVN as a RT Team leader. We were easy to recognize from the air. We were usually the guys in the middle and the bad guys were all around us.:eek:

SFENGR 08-13-2004 10:24

Recognition Fieldcraft (was Beret)
 
Terry,

Understand. At Camp Hardy, we trained the guys going South to carry the beret along with penflares and other unique signalling devices. Anything that would give us an edge over the VC and NVA was provided as Lesson Learned input for those deploying.

It seesm that even thought the Groups often shared info, some of the fieldcraft was still uinique to a particluar Group.

Any comments on that from the 5th, 7th and 10th Gp guys?

Solid 08-13-2004 11:10

Is there a good instruction manual on wearing the Beret anywhere online? I've seen several, but I'm not sure how up-to-speed they are. It seems many people make mistakes, I'd love to see how to wear them properly, with the honor and dignity they deserve.

Thank you,

Solid

The Reaper 08-13-2004 12:01

Quote:

Originally posted by Solid
Is there a good instruction manual on wearing the Beret anywhere online? I've seen several, but I'm not sure how up-to-speed they are. It seems many people make mistakes, I'd love to see how to wear them properly, with the honor and dignity they deserve.

Thank you,

Solid

Do you have a beret, Solid?

TR


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