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Onuma 10-04-2007 09:05

I've been training running "almost" barefoot for a couple of months now. Those Vibram five fingers shoes are just enough to protect your foot from a stray pebble or small shard of glass, etc, but still convey the feeling of barefoot running.

When your technique is sound, you are prone to far fewer injuries and you're actually faster with more endurance than running traditionally with sneakers. I used to be able to run 6 minute miles barefoot, but running with shoes has ever been difficult for me.

Technology is great, but occasionally it's a one-step-forward, two-steps-back kinda thing. Footwear can be excellent for protection, but not always as good for performance, imho.

x-factor 10-04-2007 18:39

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Originally Posted by Onuma (Post 184539)
Technology is great, but occasionally it's a one-step-forward, two-steps-back kinda thing. Footwear can be excellent for protection, but not always as good for performance, imho.

I would tend to agree, at least for sprinting. I used to run my 40 barefoot. Maybe its psychosomatic, but I swear it cut a full tenth off.

HQ6 10-04-2007 18:51

I lifted, power walked, and did the elliptical through out my pregnancy with number two, so I am not having as much trouble recouping this time, but I have definitely kicked up my PT a few notches:

Monday - Lift, step aerobics (I know girly), and kickboxing
Tuesday - Abs, gluts, and thighs, jog 2-3 miles, and spin (I know girly again, but we do get some team guys in the class too)
Wednesday - Lift, step aerobics, and jogging 2-3 miles
Thursday - Kickboxing and spin
Friday - Lift, spin, step aerobics
Saturday - Lift, spin, jogging 2-3 miles
Sunday - Rest

The weekends the better half and I go biking on the trails, shooting, and/or "rucking." Well, sort of rucking :) He carries a 70 pound ruck, and I carry our 37 pound toddler in the Kelty.

booker 10-05-2007 10:25

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Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc (Post 184494)
I like burpees. Alot. The studs don't seem to care for them much - probably has something to do with the vest.

What's a flying burpee?


It was introduced to me by Mark Twight. Execute a burpee per the usual course of events, but on the jump, instead of going up, execute a broad jump. Set a distance (50m, etc) and go at it. Do it for time, for distance, for distance during a set time, etc. It takes some of the monotony out of high rep burpees. Works really well with farmers carries and sled drags.

NousDefionsDoc 10-05-2007 10:41

What's "high rep burpees"?

NousDefionsDoc 10-05-2007 10:42

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Originally Posted by Razor (Post 184512)
They don't have to be overly dynamic, brother. So long as you continue doing whatever exercise you're doing for the full 20 sec, and its not a really slow movement, you'll get the hurts-so-good effect.

Roger, I shall try it. Many thanks.

booker 10-05-2007 12:09

Some say 25 is high rep, I refer to 100+ as high rep (does not necessarily need to be continuous, but still within one workout session) due to the impact on the lower back.

booker 10-05-2007 14:50

I've only heard this second hand, haven't experienced it myself, but over time the thrusting action of the legs causes the back (if not compensated via abdominal pressure) to "jar" (i.e., belly button moves toward the ground too much. I'm not an exercise phys person, so I'm not sure what to call this motion). The way I see it high rep anything over the long term will probably result in some sort of injury, so why not spruce things up?

ccrn 10-06-2007 23:57

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Originally Posted by Onuma (Post 184539)
Those Vibram five fingers shoes are just enough to protect your foot from a stray pebble or small shard of glass, etc, but still convey the feeling of barefoot running.


Do you also do much true barefoot running without the VIbrams to compare?

And do those run true to size or larger or smaller? Im thinking those might be handy during the winter months which around my parts could be described as...bitter-

S3Project 10-07-2007 00:44

Not the one you asked, but since I own some...

Vibram has a sizing conversion on their website. http://vibramfivefingers.com/

It works for MOST people...but the store I ordered from said sizing returns on the 5-fingers were about ~20-25%...usual return rates are 2%. Finding a store and trying them on would be your best bet, if possible. Some REIs stock them. Vibram has a store locator, too.

I usually wear a 10-10.5 in running shoes, but wear a 41 Sprint.

I ordered 42 Classics, but they were too big. Tightening the shock cord made them more secure, at the cost of pain from the cord cutting into my skin.

The 41 are about right - maybe a little on the small side in a toe or two. The 5-Fingers tend to be looser in the heels than the toes. I personally prefer the Sprints over the Classics...the strap secures them quite nicely, and I find them to be more comfortable. I did not like the elastic on the Classics.

Injinji socks are good if you want socks with 'em.

William Shears 10-29-2007 23:14

I have been doing hill and stair intervals with my IBA and toy SAPI plates I filled with sand to simulate the plates I have not yet been issued. This solution is working great for me in lieu of real plates to PT with. I am also constructing a metal tube filled with rebar to simulate my SAW.

I don't know how new that is for most people, but the Marines in my unit were shocked that I was doing anything other than the recommended "3 miles 3 times a week + Gold's Gym membership."

Onuma 10-30-2007 19:19

CCRN:

I used to run "true" barefoot back in high school and college, but occassionally you still catch a rock, nail, shard of glass, etc. even while running where there really shouldn't be some of those foreign items.

I have a size 14 foot, so I had to order largest available size (47). I think my measurement was 12.25", and the chart was pretty darn accurate to how it fits. If my feet were ANY larger I'd be SOL. If you have an oddly shaped foot or if your 2nd toe is longer than your big toe, you may have some trouble with the fit.

I think for your situation, if you can find the proper size, you could definitely make use of these. Also, you may want to consider wearing those "toe socks" with the fivefingers. The inner stitched seam of the fivefingers toes can sometimes irritate you, and the socks could help alleviate this problem (or just get uber calouses).

Toe socks:
http://www.sock-dreams.com/_shop/pag...ductID_376.php

I hope that helps!

Razor 11-08-2007 15:18

Warning: Personal results follow; YMMV

So after losing a good deal of muscle mass and strength last year due to illness, I decided to try a different exercise routine than I have used before. Instead of strength-training centric (with moderate cardio mixed in) 3 days a week, I've gone to lighter resistance weight training (using more dumbells to also work supporting muscles) in a "power" routine (performing the concentric movements as quickly as safely possible), mixed with a day a week of primarily bodyweight resistance (sometimes in Tabata intervals). I still do heavy weights for the major muscle groups, but only once every week to week and a half. I go as heavy as possible to complete 4 sets of 5 reps. I also work in at least two days of cardio/week for at least 45 minutes a session (to include heavy bag work).

I mention all this, as I've found that I've quickly recovered (and now surpassed) my peak strength level from before I got sick, but am not carrying the extra bulk/bodyweight I had at that time. My power moves have improved, I feel better overall, and have more agility and flexibility.

I've done bodyweight only exercise in the past as an experiment, and found that my endurance (measured by push-up performance in the APFT) actually decreased, so I realized I had to include weight training in my overall regimen. What I've found with this latest experiment is that I can keep my raw strength where I want it without as frequent gym trips as I previously thought necessary, allowing me to work other aspects of fitness more often to maintain overall health.

Again, this seems to have worked for me; you have to do your own experimenting to find the routine that works best for your body.


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