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cbtengr 12-04-2019 17:43

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Originally Posted by tonyz (Post 654255)
> 2,000,000 instances of freedom exercised EACH month during the calendar year 2019...first time ever to reach that level per month EVERY month.

NICS Firearm Background Checks:
Month/Year
November 30, 1998 - November 30, 2019

https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/...month_year.pdf

I saw that and it did not surprise me. Democrats have a way of inspiring gun sales. I know that after Obama was elected I immediately purchased my first AR. That purchase was followed by the purchase of a butt load of ammunition in various calibers. I still do not believe that one can have too many firearms and too much ammunition.

Badger52 12-04-2019 21:25

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Originally Posted by cbtengr (Post 654257)
I still do not believe that one can have too many firearms and too much ammunition.

Sometimes hard-hearted friends are good to have around too. :cool:

Hand 12-05-2019 09:23

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Originally Posted by cbtengr (Post 654257)
I know that after Obama was elected I immediately purchased my first AR. That purchase was followed by the purchase of a butt load of ammunition in various calibers. I still do not believe that one can have too many firearms and too much ammunition.

I did the same. Between then and now 3 of 4 members of my household have been through several thousand rounds of various calibers in practice and in shooting leagues. I don't worry much about the outcome of bad guys knocking in the middle of the night.

Sadly, this was before that horrible boating accident where all those guns sank to the bottom of the lake...

Ret10Echo 01-21-2020 11:18

As conversations on "Militia" continue and the government of the Commonwealth of Virginia takes a hard left turn... I thought this interesting.


“It is most certain that men may be smartly dressed, keep their arms bright, be called [British] regulars, be expert in all the antics of a review and yet be unfit for real action. It is equally certain, that a militia [in America], by confining themselves to essentials, by a simplification of the necessary maneuvers, may become, in a very few months, a most formidable infantry. The yeomanry of America have, besides, infinite advantages over the peasantry of other countries; they are accustomed from their infancy to fire arms; they are expert in the use of them; whereas the lower and middle people of England are, by the tyranny of certain laws, almost as ignorant in the use of a musket as they are of the ancient Catapulta.”


Major General Charles Lee,“Strictures on a Pamphlet . . . Addressed to the People of America” (Philadelphia, 1774)

cbtengr 01-21-2020 12:07

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Originally Posted by Ret10Echo (Post 654894)
As conversations on "Militia" continue and the government of the Commonwealth of Virginia takes a hard left turn... I thought this interesting.


“It is most certain that men may be smartly dressed, keep their arms bright, be called [British] regulars, be expert in all the antics of a review and yet be unfit for real action. It is equally certain, that a militia [in America], by confining themselves to essentials, by a simplification of the necessary maneuvers, may become, in a very few months, a most formidable infantry. The yeomanry of America have, besides, infinite advantages over the peasantry of other countries; they are accustomed from their infancy to fire arms; they are expert in the use of them; whereas the lower and middle people of England are, by the tyranny of certain laws, almost as ignorant in the use of a musket as they are of the ancient Catapulta.”


Major General Charles Lee,“Strictures on a Pamphlet . . . Addressed to the People of America” (Philadelphia, 1774)

Stated nearly 250 years ago but relevant to our times. History does indeed repeat itself.

bblhead672 01-21-2020 16:20

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Originally Posted by Ret10Echo (Post 654894)
As conversations on "Militia" continue and the government of the Commonwealth of Virginia takes a hard left turn... I thought this interesting.


“It is most certain that men may be smartly dressed, keep their arms bright, be called [British] regulars, be expert in all the antics of a review and yet be unfit for real action. It is equally certain, that a militia [in America], by confining themselves to essentials, by a simplification of the necessary maneuvers, may become, in a very few months, a most formidable infantry. The yeomanry of America have, besides, infinite advantages over the peasantry of other countries; they are accustomed from their infancy to fire arms; they are expert in the use of them; whereas the lower and middle people of England are, by the tyranny of certain laws, almost as ignorant in the use of a musket as they are of the ancient Catapulta.”


Major General Charles Lee,“Strictures on a Pamphlet . . . Addressed to the People of America” (Philadelphia, 1774)

Excellent! It's almost as if those guys back then had a clue...

tonyz 01-21-2020 17:29

An armed civilization and moral civilization...is potentially a great civilization.

Cherish and protect the Second Amendment...it has protected many as well as this nation.

Badger52 01-28-2020 12:53

New Mexico Sheriff's Association Statement
 
Upon the filing of a proposed "red flag law" in Santa Fe, the NMSA speaks up, and not ambiguously. (29 of 33, Acevedo and a couple of others are lib's useful idiots, acolytes, choir boys, whatever). Excerpt:

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(CNSNews.com) -- In reference to the constitutional right to own firearms and a proposed "red flag" law, the New Mexico Sheriff's Association issued a statement saying new "controls on law-abiding citizens' guns" are "ill conceived," and that Americans "have the right to be armed" to "protect the republic against a corrupt and usurping government."

"Citizens have a right to bear arms and we cannot circumvent that right when they have not even committed a crime or even been accused of committing one," added the Sheriff's Association. "We sheriffs have sworn to uphold those and other God-given rights for our citizens at all costs."
Worth reading the whole thing.

pcfixer 02-15-2020 07:18

https://www.hobbsnews.com/2020/02/13..._DVVKX2H7do8zw


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“This is dangerous. It’s dangerous to law enforcement. It’s dangerous to citizens, and remember, it’s based on unsubstantiated allegations before convicting (a gun owner accused of being dangerous), presuming he’s going to commit a crime,” Helton said. “Where have we gotten in this country to where you seize property over a crime that may occur?”

Councilman Jerry Corral asked for clarification on the 48-hour issue.

Helton answered that under the amendment to the bill, “We’re going to give them 48 hours to surrender their weapons. This took away the crisis aspect, which is what it’s for. Under the amendment,
if you don’t turn in your weapon within 48 hours, you are guilty of a misdemeanor. Now, we’re charging a crime over a civil order. So, what am I going to do if he slams a door in my face? Am I going to bring a SWAT team to Eunice on a civil order? And now we’re going to turn this guy into a criminal.”

grog18b 02-15-2020 13:56

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Am I going to bring a SWAT team to Eunice on a civil order? And now we’re going to turn this guy into a criminal.”
No, you are going to be the ones who STARTED the gunfight and acted criminally FIRST.

Dude is just protecting his life and liberty and was attacked while sitting in his living room minding his own business.

Badger52 02-15-2020 21:24

Wednesday night our County Sheriff, speaking at the 2A sanctuary informational meeting*, also expressed his and his deputies vehement dislike for "red-flag" laws as currently being promulgated by the tyrants. The County DA said the same thing and noted that every dollar spent doing stupid krap like this is a dollar that doesn't go to real mental-health resources.




* County board votes on it 26 Feb.

Ret10Echo 02-24-2020 17:01

Disconnected BS political rhetoric is NOT the answer

D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser should look into the statistics of the number of LEGAL gun owners that are part of this conspiracy of "Everyone else is against me"

Your (Mayor Muriel Bowser) failed economic and jobs programs have created a culture that uses gun violence as "Business-as-Usual" operations. If it were not guns it would be knives, rocks, cars, fists, chicken wings....whatever...

Look at the geography... Your murders are happening in slums and projects created by the District (as with other liberal metro areas)

Stop it.. .Just Stop..

The NRA is not your enemy. The enemy is your advisors, policy makers and predecessors that perpetuate and enable the state of things within your District

Don't blame someone else for your failures.



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It was a violent weekend in the District: Four shootings ended three lives and left five others injured.

And, during an event Monday for D.C. police’s Cadet Corp Program, Mayor Muriel Bowser was blunt about what’s necessary to prevent more of the same.

“We as a nation have to get serious about illegal guns and gun violence,” she said.

“… We continue to be concerned about illegal guns coming across our borders from our neighboring states,” she continued, “and we know what that is going to take is a real push against the NRA, a real push for our Congress to focus on background checks, straw purchasing and gun loopholes, which we know is impacting us — especially … from Maryland and Virginia.

tonyz 04-06-2020 12:59

When folks feel that the government - might not be able to protect them - and then authorities simultaneously release criminals onto the streets...the people predictably vote with their pocketbook.

NICS Firearm Background Checks:
Month/Year
November 30, 1998 - March 31, 2020


March 2020

3,740,688 background checks

https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/...month_year.pdf

ETA: another economic impact of the China Virus - the industry was stagnant and then the world changed.

Badger52 04-06-2020 19:29

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Originally Posted by tonyz (Post 657741)
When folks feel that the government - might not be able to protect them - and then authorities simultaneously release criminals onto the streets...the people predictably vote with their pocketbook.

NICS Firearm Background Checks:
Month/Year
November 30, 1998 - March 31, 2020


March 2020

3,740,688 background checks

https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/...month_year.pdf

ETA: another economic impact of the China Virus - the industry was stagnant and then the world changed.

I'm not much into that stat EXCEPT for the effect it has on the ones it terrifies. Especially when they think about the freeman to freeman exchanges of goods & property that don't get NICS checks.
:D

One can hope that home invasions decline. Everyone seems to be at home with enough guns & bleach & paper towels to take care of the WHOLE job.

tonyz 04-06-2020 20:58

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Originally Posted by Badger52 (Post 657753)
I'm not much into that stat EXCEPT for the effect it has on the ones it terrifies. Especially when they think about the freeman to freeman exchanges of goods & property that don't get NICS checks.
:D

One can hope that home invasions decline. Everyone seems to be at home with enough guns & bleach & paper towels to take care of the WHOLE job.

Lol, THAT “stat” is potentially big. Potentially very big - from a number of potential perspectives - if properly leveraged.

The most obvious is the sheer volume. Realize, that’s the largest month EVAH...nearly 4 million and yes...there are probably more freeman to freeman.

Moreover, many obtaining firearms this late in the game are most likely first time firearm owners (who else is paying top dollar and standing in line for shit they were practically giving away 2 months ago...first timers). First timers, who are now truly aware that sometimes big-daddy Gov might not be there when you dial 911...they truly realized that they and their family just might be alone if first responders go down in a pandemic...with politicians letting even more bad guys loose on the street. This might be the very first time in their lives that the Second Amendment actually had some real meaning to them.

I hope that they remember that moment of realization - even if brief - come November 2020 and beyond.

Oh, I’ll bet that there’s also a lot of first time folks who’ll need a friend to take them to a range and show them the ropes.

That’s a lot of the precious middle we say we need/want to cultivate come election time...folks previously undecided or at least agnostic on an issue...who just made a decision.

We sure can reinforce the wisdom of that decision.

ETA: OH, and when this pandemic runs its course...there may be a huge opportunity to pick up some very lightly used weapons at discount prices. ;)


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