Here we are, six months into the pandemic. Forget what Johns Hopkins University is selling, forget what “model” the University of Washington is creating on a computer algorithm based on totally inaccurate input (remember garbage in garbage out) here are some raw numbers that aren’t really based on anything realistic or accurate because we just don’t know. And forget who the WHO is because they have already washed their hands, changed their minds on masks and moved on from their catastrophic failure.

We don’t know how many people died as a direct result of SARS-CoV-2 because the doctors, hospitals and pathologist never bothered to test those who died. They just said everyone died of COVID because well, they got money to say that - literally.

We don’t actually know how many people tested positive even though they never had a single symptom of the virus only that testing was widely available and the faster ‘rapid’ testing gave near immediate results to a 2-week vacation at home - with or without pay - although $600/mo plus unemployment was more than some people made before COVID and those that got positive results went on with their lives anyway.

Anyway let’s look at the latest numbers.

5,000,000 of 330,000,000 is 1.52% infected US population.
160,000 of 330,000,000 is 0.05% total number of deaths against US population and that includes nearly everyone who died, even if they died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at home and weren’t tested for the virus. (Okay that last part is mine, but I’m not sure I can take credit for it.)

If we do take Johns Hopkins latest info. 725,000 of 6.5 billion people it looks even more like a bad flu season with 0.01% deaths, and 16,511,000 infected worldwide is 0.3%; slightly higher than the US but far less than even 1% total worldwide population.

Maybe my math is off, I was never very good at that stuff anyway unless I was measuring the dose of epinephrine in milligrams per milliliter per kilogram of weight in the heat of the moment because you were in cardiac arrest. Dunno!

ETA: fixes some things but, who else besides Gov De Wine (OH) got tested three times with negative results after having one positive test? Who does that?

I posted this back in April:

So we are just approaching the population-adjusted toll of the 1968 pandemic and are still far from the toll of the 1957-58 pandemic, neither of which shut down society. And that does not account for the other factors in the current death toll, such as how many deaths were not really caused by the virus but were counted as such, as noted above by ODNT, and how many unnecessary deaths have been caused by the very response the government has taken, including the deaths in nursing homes, deaths by suicide due to lost livelihoods, and deaths by other causes due to missed medical care.

...or inappropriate ventilator use.

Your posting though, coupled with your previous in April, is an eye-opener, considering that thing I highlighted. I've said it before; the virus happens to some people, the response has been something that is perpetrated nearly everyone.

I'm not arguing with the numbers. But I don't see where you guys have considered all the social fricking distancing and such when you do your comparisons. In other words, do you believe the infections would be the same if we were not social distancing? Nobody used to give a spit if there was a bad flu season. Take some robitussin and its off to work, vacation ect... .



LHC

EXACTLY:
 

The China virus is getting hype from MSM...The Daily Death Toll from Covid-19 is pick a number whose total includes deaths from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, How if any autopsies are used to prove cause of death? Why are the Covid 19 reported deaths so high? is there an economic benefit to hospitals to put Covid 19 on death certificates ? Did anyone die from the seasonal flu ? November 4th this Sars-COV-2 virus will be out of the 24 hour news cycle. It may even disappear. Wait & See.

I am not a medical professional....nor am I a statistical analyst...

My take here is that the social distancing and "wear a mask" is akin to "Stranger Danger" for children.

Family units are infected en-mass due to one member being exposed.

All "positive" numbers do not equal hospitalization. Hell, they don't even mean you have any symptoms

So imagine a normal flu season where mass numbers of people are subjected to a PSYOP campaign and have themselves tested out of fear and panic because some pet dander in their house made them sneeze.

How many people with the flu or common cold would be POSITIVE in this scenario?

On a bad flu season, I'd say the technical term is "one metric ass-load"... but it's a "normal" season so nobody give a rats' ass.

The current state of "Orange man bad" and politicians becoming crazed over the power makes it really hard to say what is real and what is made up.

As has been noted...there have been far more impactful infections in our history...but those occurred before the 24 hour news cycle and the hyper sensitivity of our society.

My personal take has been that outside of a 400 meter zone around my house I giveashit.

Stay safe.....

As I've said since this all started. I've been pretty much able to go and do what I did before this all started. For the last 6 weeks or so I've been eating out in the same places I did before this all started.

Same check out folks are working the registers at Food Lion. Wife continues to try and set records for the numbers of stores she hit in a day.

Pretty much this "social distancing" is all show with very little go.

This is JMOO. This virus has proven to be very transmissible (surface touch and airborne) and appears that we humans have very little to no natural immunity to it. The elderly population and those with severe or untreated health conditions (*) appear to be very susceptible to the virus raging through their bodies (cytokine release (that’s a protein we all have in our blood) response to our immune system or “cytokine storm”) which causes an unmitigated inflammatory response system wide.

* the list of underlying co-morbidities I believe in order are:
1) Moderate to severe obesity.
2) Heart and vascular issues - hypertension, blood clotting and blockages.
3) Diabetes (More likely than not - untreated diabetes.)
4) Existing compromises in pulmonary function - pneumonia, COPD, emphysema, etc.
5) Other underlying health issues that may be affected from inflammation, blood clotting or severe pyretic conditions or defects.

The good news appears to be that this virus like all other coronaviruses, influenza and the “common” cold are not the super killer we are being led to believe. Yes, all of those viruses can kill. Some more so than others and affect different ages with different results. We haven’t in 50+ years bothered to make a vaccine against coronaviruses and we haven’t found a vaccine for the cold. The A or B vaccine for influenza is a constant guessing game and only a small percentage of the population even gets it yearly. BTW it only helps because you have antigens and antibodies to resist it, you may still get the flu and it could still kill.

I think and this is just a hunch, our kids (those under 20) have developed through us or naturally a small level of immunity from recent exposure to SARS and MERS and may already have been born with antigen/antibodies to resist infection and spread.

Now to answer your question, I really don’t know. My hunch is...I think that what I wear as a requirement for work and meeting local business requirements (a neck gator) and 80+% of the population are wearing as a face covering (homemade cloth masks, bandannas or store bought painters masks) are 100% worthless. Even those who wear and change often a three layer surgical mask are only about 30% protected from getting and 50% less likely to spread the virus through coughing or sneezing. Even a properly worn N95 mask is not rated to .125micron so yes the virus particles can pass right through and a valved mask might as well not be there if you are the infected person coughing and breathing through the hole on the side of the mask.

Social distancing is a made up joke! (Even the scientific community laughed not to long ago, about the same time they told us the truth about masks.) Although I am beginning to appreciate not being crunched into a space or line anymore. Two strangers in an elevator seems to be one to many.

I think and again JMO. The scientific community at large and many many doctors (they are all liberal, some are just more liberal than others and only a few are outspoken but shutdown by the media - especially if they mention Hydroxychloroquine) have let us down. They were given unmitigated power to run an experiment that has failed worse than the effects of the virus. The “band-aid” has been a hodgepodge of confusion and outright lies about masks and social distancing to help “flatten the curve” or control the virus.

Sweden was not the answer (but maybe time will tell), yet neither was Japan (mask wearing capital of the world), and certainly not the hugging kissing Italians and French, or the let’s get naked together Germans. The rest of SE Asia seems to have found something the world might want to look at further next time. They shut the doors and closed their points of entry and screened EVERYONE coming in, but they kept their economies running best they could.

Again all JMOO. I’m not a doctor although I played one for 10-years and slept in a Holiday Inn Express once or twice.

Dr. Fauchi will go down in the history books as the little boy who cried wolf! And will very likely be the scapegoat for when and if we ever resurrect our economy and country from the death spiral it’s in.

JMHO-YMMV

This study published in the WAPO is similar to the one I read through work and from same source.

https://apple.news/AzNrQfdYhR3-0z1r5yzj-hQ

Some things to keep in mind: Airborne droplets are quite large by comparison to the gases we breathe. Virus particles are many times smaller than those droplets (about one billionth times smaller.) The larger the droplets the faster they fall to the ground (where they can be touched but unlikely to be inhaled.) While the smaller ones may remain airborne longer they dry out faster (which theoretically means anything attached to it dies.)

This study only examined what comes out the front of the mask through normal speech. It did not examine or test what comes out the sides, top or bottom during speech, coughing or sneezing.

It also does not determine the loss of protection over time as the materials are soaked with respiratory effort, humidity or fabric breakdown over time. (A surgical mask is only recommended to be used for no more than two hours before being discarded and replaced.) Because a warm moist area is a breeding ground for bacteria and viruses to thrive.

And lastly (not this study) how many more times per hour or even minute do you touch your face to adjust, move or scratch an itch caused by the mask? Just opening my iPhone causes me to touch my face more than I otherwise would so it defeats hand washing and sanitizer use.

When was the last time you wore your mask like your underwear: frontwards, backwards, inside-front, backside out, before washing it and repeating? (I’d wager your undies are cleaner than the mask we put on and off our faces to appease the masses.

"The impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on cancer deaths due to delays in diagnosis in England, UK: a national, population-based, modelling study"

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...388-0/fulltext

Excerpt from summary:

The percentages might not be similar in the United States, since notwithstanding the Covid impact we generally have a better record of treatment for cancers than the NHS-dominated UK healthcare system. But it is more evidence of the human cost of the Covid response.

Interesting snippet from over at American Partisan:
So... no one's dying this year from influenza of any kind because that's so "last year" ?

I would love to think that this turd will eventually be exposed for the backstage subversive prick that he really is.
but he wont

He was part of the giant effort to message that the origins of the AIDS epidemic had nothing to do with casual unprotected sex and IV drug abuse - it was because the POTUS hated poor people and minorities..
The left championed him for it - THAT is where he made is bones. The COVID/Fauci maneuver is just the left bringing in a specialty relief pitcher to throw against a guy that they cant strike out.
The cocksucker has been sitting in the bullpen for years - pretending to be an apolitical every-man.
but he isnt

Fauci is a combination megaphone-dog whistle for the treasonous left and he will never be held accountable for his shenanigans. The left will raise the Titanic, fix it, fill it with little children and cute puppies, and then scuttle that mother fucker over the Marianas Trench before they will ever admit to being wrong...
much let accept any responsibility for their treason and hypocrisy

Just my two cents.

Anthony Fauci MD:
 

He is a deep-state actor who has spent his entire career in the D C beltway working as a medical researcher and administrator at NIH. He has been at NIH longer than most of bureaucrats & professional politicians than make-up the swamp. He, DR FAUCI. will be 80 years old in Dec. 2020. THE TIME FOR HIM TO GO HAS PASSED.

Been a couple weeks since we all last evaluated the crisis.

As you can see from this article one thing remains very consistent with this virus.

https://apple.news/AhOYKs6mYQby447QyhywD-A

First, you can make any “metric” or data point you want that supports your thesis or opinion and write a “hit piece headline.” In this case South Dakota has had a 100% increase since the Sturgis Rally. Or in layman’s terms 2 of 1, 20 of 10 or 100 of 50 people have become infected or simply tested positive for the virus since before the rally of approximately 500,000 people came and left.

Second, from the map it continues to show how the virus spread from coastal states popular with incoming tourists from Europe and Asia (primarily Seattle, San Francisco and New York/New Jersey - anomaly to Colorado a ski destination) to the interior industrial states along the southern border from Mexico (Texas, Arizona and Southern California - anomaly Florida a Spring Break destination) and finally it is now affecting the Northern Plains states... All of this to me and my non-scientific analysis shows a very predictable movement from non-infected population through a month long process of increasing rates of infected/hospitalization/death and recovery to falling numbers of infection and death. As the virus moves through the entire population. This also seems consistent with the disease spread throughout the world and within every country the world over. Except those countries that have effectively closed their borders and had tight control of quarantine measures - they seem to remain low and without spread within their borders. Time will tell if they did more harm than say Sweden that did nothing at all except bury the dead old people most reliant on government services (what a utopian socialist liberal or “Cuomo” fantasy!)

It just seems to me that we are not in control of this virus at all, and while we have gotten better at treating it we have no idea how to keep it from infecting those susceptible and those who likely could walk through a gauntlet of infectious people and not get sick.

One day hopefully soon, the scientists realize their colossal mistakes and allow the economists to put the country back on a positive and productive way forward.

Does anyone here, anyone including those who think I’m FOS believe that if we say there is a vaccine that it truly will be a fool proof cure going forward? And to open everything and open schools that all you have to do is show your vaccination record? Or, if because President Trump says “we have a vaccine available for everyone who wants it, free of charge” that all the Democratic naysayers will condemn it before it even gets past the distribution phase? If Trump says it’s good it must be bad!

Let alone if it works or not...??? (How will we know?)

I think without anything being done, this virus will be much like SARS, MERS and perhaps even AIDS or Spanish Flu before it, it will pass into history as something that came into a susceptible human population ran its course and became a seasonal killer for those most likely to die from other health related complications. Everyone else will feel like crap for a week and go on with their lives as if they had the flu.

JMHO-YOMD

ETA: in the time it took me to write this the news is already a step ahead: White House faces skepticism over prospects for a vaccine

No argument from me.