MG's vs SHTF
 

Machineguns are game changers, IF you are fighting a "conventional" fight. If you're trying to conduct a revolution, UW and "hunting" rifles will go a LONG way (pun intended). The rise of the PRS series and similar competitions, plus the fact that most guys who know how to properly run a carbine generally use semi will very quickly lead to "the good MG's" being battlefield recovered in a timely manner should a SHTF scenario play out.

"The people I'm 'worried' about, are not the people I'm worried about should the SHTF"

I certainly cant disagree with you.

I guess my intended point is the control of the threat of battlespace, before it begins, and not the application of employing them.

Strategies are numerous and can vary, so attempting to mitigate the vulnerability of the perceived future strategy is what the security systems are that are being developed. This is true for any history or country that has taken notice of the perceived threat of people.

Its incrementally improving the foxhole. While also assuring the adversaries capabilities are limited by controlling resources.

I am not convinced it's a grand conspiracy even if some political views lean one way or the other. I see it as the path its falling into if conventional or not. Because of this possibility I presume this is why we are seeing greater foriegn destabilization tactics employed against us.

Its several sources leveraging the indicators. Perhaps not even aware or interested in the same outcomes.

You make a good point here. I was just looking at this on an auction site pretty much intended for making available a better weapon.

Attachment 35570

This pistol is made of stamped steel and was intended to be airdropped to partisans during World War II. Only fires one shot at a time, but the hollow grip to four additionally cartridges. They were dropped in a plain cardboard box with an illustrated instruction gun. Never intended for long use, their sole objective was to assassinate an enemy and retrieve a more serviceable weapon. CONDITION: Working but has the typical toning on the pressed metal. Barrel Length: 3 - 1/2" Caliber/Bore: .45 ACP

And never give in to the temptation of gun buy-backs, no matter how much they want for your junker (which also supports THEIR narrative). That no-name but functional ol' wheelgun or non-descript single-shot should have ammo for it too. You never know when you might want to "Leave the gun, take the cannoli."

And manufactured by.... General Motors

I wonder if Alexandria Ocasio Cortez just realizes she has now come out for illegal immigrants to have legal access to firearms.


https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...me-of-funding/

“When we are a land of laws, what that means, is that every person that steps foot on this soil deserves the consideration of due process. They deserve the protections. They deserve to have access to our Bill of Rights. That’s what makes this nation special.”

Forget playing the tape to the end to see a thing called 'consequences'; the crew advising her doesn't even get past the opening credits. And, like it or not, there are a bunch of her 70 & 80 year-old "colleagues" who are feeling the need to pull back the curtain & show their true colors because they want a piece of that demographic. (While quietly balancing the choking of their military-industrial complex & BigPharma donors.)

Thank goodness we have a new Governor! Definitely a step in the right direction. :lifter

Oklahoma House passes no-permit gun bill

By: Journal Record Staff February 13, 2019 

OKLAHOMA CITY (JR) – The Oklahoma House of Representatives on Wednesday passed a measure that would allow citizens to carry a firearm without a permit.

House Bill 2597, by state Rep. Jon Echols, would allow anyone age 21 or over to carry a firearm without a permit. It would permit veterans and active-duty and reserve military personnel age 18 or over to carry without a permit.

HB 2597 passed out of the House by a vote of 70-30 and now heads to the Senate for consideration.

The measure would prohibit felons and those with domestic violence convictions or who have been adjudicated as having a mental illness from carrying a firearm. The bill does not affect current federal law requiring a background check for the in-store purchase of a firearm.

In places where carrying a firearm is currently prohibited, the bill allows those private property owners and college campuses to continue to set their own policies regarding the carrying of firearms on those premises.

“This bill solidifies the Second Amendment rights of Oklahomans while protecting private property rights,” said House Speaker Charles McCall, R-Atoka. “We worked with private businesses, schools and college campuses to ensure that their rights are protected.”

There are 15 states that allow some form of permitless carry, including Kansas, Missouri and Arkansas.

“Oklahoma has long had permitless carry, but only for citizens visiting from one of those surrounding states that allow it,” said Echols, R-Oklahoma City.

Nearly identical bills to this one cleared the Oklahoma House and Senate last year, but then-Gov. Mary Fallin vetoed it over opposition from law enforcement and concerns about the elimination of training and background checks.

Republican Gov. Kevin Stitt and Senate Republican Leader Greg Treat both say they support the concept.

https://journalrecord.com/2019/02/13...rmit-gun-bill/

Up to 14 states now with permitless carry on the books...with a couple-three on the fringes I believe.

The geography is a bit interesting (or maybe unsurprising) with the North-North East being an unexpected region...and then (primarily) the Mid-West. W.V. is the eastern anomaly.

What is even more interesting in looking at the geographical distribution is how a handful of states are the drivers behind the attack on the 2nd.

My new concern, in light of President Trump’s emergency declaration, is that the next Democrat President will make an emergency declaration against guns. Any thoughts on this?

U.S. CONST. Article I, § 9, cl. 2

The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.

Somehow caravans of thousands intending to enter the U.S. in disregard of OUR legal process meets invasion definition.

Don't let the talking heads scare you into capitulating.....these emergencies they declare are threats to the nation even if it is partisan B.S. but I am not sure they can declare anything that overrides the Constitutions protected rights....the POTUS is responsible for the security of this nation he is required to act if the house and the Senate do not

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-man...by-presidents/

Very well said, Sir!!!


Holly:munchin

"All enemies, foreign AND domestic".......
 

I think if the dims / a commie president were to try to declare an emergency that in some way furthered the confiscation of guns, they would be openly declaring war on the Gun-Owning Citizens of the Several States. I don't think they have the collective memory between all of the empty-headed commie-dims to know that is exactly how the colonies became the independent States that joined together to be the United States.....

To bastardize an Archer quote: "Do you want a revolution? Cause that's how you get a revolution!"

I say, bring it on, let the cards fall where they may, and lets do this! It's about time the USG found out exactly why the 2A is in there, but that's just me.

Just as a new gun owner, yet a fan of Ya'll... I say, HE'LL YEAH!!!:lifter. Great post!


Holly