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At that time you could have up to a dozen weapons authorized on your ccw. The state maintains a database of authorized weapons on each permit and the LVMPD also has the status of a persons permit i.e. applicant, permit authorized or permit revoked / suspended for applicants or permit holders in Clark County in an antique database they administer. |
Appears the Coroner's inquest will be televised on the Clark County Government channel on Sept. 22 possibly through the 24th.
You can see the video streamed here: Here |
Late Breaking details......
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010...st-erik-scott/ http://www.8newsnow.com/story/131138...edirected=true |
I get "page not found" or "bad request" on those links.
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I'm becoming more convinced that the only way to properly carry a weapon is the school methodology of Poncho Villa, as sung by Merl Haggard, "on the outside of his coat for the whole world to see."
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Here's a text report. No video
The weapon that was being carried was in it's holster when the first LEO fired. Victim had removed holster from his waistband.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010...ted-gun-didnt/ |
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It seems like this was a bad situation all around. Derek |
All this has taught me that if confronted by the police is to interlock/interlace fingers on top of head, drop to knees, and tell the "officers" to get my gun, cause I ain't going to touch it.
This incident has woke me up to the point if I were in a mall packed with people, armed and some crazed individual started shooting, I may not draw my weapon, but instead just walk out. You don't shoot people just because they are holding a weapon, period. It takes "well trained" individual well over a second and a half to bring a holstered a weapon to bear, acquire a target, and fire. This is from a open carry holster, speed holster if you like. (A CCW holster, depending on the type could take extra seconds.) It takes most others three tenths of a second to "react" to anyones "action". My point is, if I (or most anyone else) had a gun "drawn" on you, giving you commands, there isn't an individual in the world that could unholster, bring a weapon to bear and shoot me before I sent him to his maker. You do the math. "He was going for his gun", is pure hollywood. Seems to me this was a very, very bad shoot. Edit to add: I don't blame the officers, I blame their training. This is the same "well trained" police department that, just four years ago fired over 600 rounds, at one guy, and not achieve the desired effect, not until a former army veteran ended the five hour gunfight. Their training officers need to be re-evaluated. Team Sergeant May 12, 2006 Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal Sniper tells of fatal shots After 15 minutes, jury rules police shooting in standoff justified By FRANCIS McCABE Charles Collingwood nestled the butt of his .308-caliber Accuracy International sniper rifle against his shoulder and peered through the scope. He had a "crystal clear" view of unit 265 of the Woodridge Villas apartment complex, from which Christopher Scott Hawkins had engaged police in a standoff for nearly five hours on Feb. 9. Advertisement Collingwood, a 13-year Metropolitan Police Department veteran, lay on the roof of a house on Arthur Avenue, more than 100 yards from Hawkins' apartment in the complex near Eastern and Owens avenues. After 10 canisters of tear gas were lobbed into his apartment, Hawkins fired a flurry of shots from a .40-caliber Glock semiautomatic handgun. One round buzzed over Collingwood's head. "I needed to stop the threat," Collingwood told jurors Thursday during the Clark County coroner's inquest into the fatal shooting of Hawkins by police. The SWAT sniper said he adjusted his scope, put the cross hairs on the bridge of Hawkins' nose and squeezed the trigger. All told, 44 law enforcement officers fired their guns that day. Hawkins used more than 50 rounds of ammunition. Police countered with more than 600 rounds. No one knows for sure who fired the fatal bullet, said Sgt. Russell Shoemaker, who investigated the case. After the jury found the actions of police justified, officer Robert Schmidt, who was the first officer to arrive in response to the marijuana complaint, was asked whether he was happy. http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho...s/7365518.html |
So cop shoots dog
So cop shoots dog that jumps at his dog - and it's a good shoot.
So dog bites citizen and citizen threatens to shoot dog and he's made out to be a nut case. What sane person would shoot a dog just because it bit you? |
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At least there is the 911 tape....but still, am confused!!! :rolleyes: Am going to call a spade a spade here, and just say that after reading all of the testimony, the cops were high on adreniline, got pumped up to get a potential "bad guy," and shot!! :mad: Not saying that is what happened in this case, but....Not ALL Cops are created equal.....'cause I luv Police Officers in general!!!:( Again, JMHO. Holly |
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You have a weapon on your belt, holstered. Three cops have the drop on you and are yelling commands. One of them tells you to "drop the gun". You have to touch it to do so, but you remove it holstered to prevent any lethal misunderstanding. The cops light you up anyway for having a gun in your hand. That seems to me, based on the reports, to be what actually happened. The manager's story about what happened inside the store seems a bit strange to me. I am with the TS on this one. If a cop wants me to remove my weapon, he can do that for me while I am on my face with hands outstretched or on my head. I am not touching the weapon. I will comply with all other instructions. TR |
This article gives one angle on the reaction of Erik Scott's girlfriend and she witnessed the shooting first hand. Link
In general it makes sense that an insolvent city would have motivation to limit wrongful death lawsuits. |
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