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Last hard class 06-05-2020 08:09

The HCQ study suggesting negative effects for treatment has been retracted.


https://www.thelancet.com/lancet/art...40673620313246




LHC

Box 06-05-2020 09:03

So you're saying that a medical research paper done by political activists is scientifically unfounded?

Political SCIENCE does NOT makes you a fucking scientist.
Its probably why people like aLg0re thinks they are an authority on climate

remarkable

JJ_BPK 06-05-2020 09:05

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Originally Posted by Last hard class (Post 659466)
The HCQ study suggesting negative effects for treatment has been retracted.



I wish they were a little more verbose on what they retracted.

But the original Lancet report seems clear enough :lifter

https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journ...20)31180-6.pdf

Box 06-05-2020 09:09

Lets all be honest about this though - an OpEd in the New York times was not going to give these hacks the same legitimacy as buying their way into a peer reviewed journal.

Not when the message is no more scientific than "Orangemanbad"

Airbornelawyer 06-05-2020 16:22

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My first attempt at creating a Covid-19 meme.

I also thought about one replacing the Virginia state motto of "Sic Semper Tyrannis" with "Führer befiehl, Wir folgen!", but the reference is probably too obscure and most people wouldn't understand the German expression anyway (not that they seem to understand the Latin one).

Golf1echo 06-05-2020 22:29

Edited Post for relevance.
Hard to be light hearted after running across an article on one of joe biddens trips to china. It’s a long video: https://thenationalpulse.com/news/bi...us-government/

tonyz 06-06-2020 08:47

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Originally Posted by Golf1echo (Post 659483)
Edited Post for relevance.
Hard to be light hearted after running across an article on one of joe biddens trips to china. It’s a long video: https://thenationalpulse.com/news/bi...us-government/

Good find. Very brief excerpt from your posted article below.

It is unsettling to reflect on the CCP participation in Korea and Vietnam and read Bill Ayers and other 60’s radicals Prairie Fire manifesto (with today’s ANTIFA handbook in mind).

The stated hatred for America concomitant with the stated reverence for communists by some in this country (with their calls for revolution) is more than unsettling.

“The comments – unearthed from a 2011 Sichuan University speech – demonstrate either a fundamental misunderstanding of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), or outright collusion with it.”

The former veep (BIDEN) stated at the time:

“In order to cement this robust partnership, we have to go beyond close ties between Washington and Beijing, which we’re working on every day, go beyond it to include all levels of government, go beyond it to include classrooms and laboratories, athletic fields and boardrooms.”

Trapper John 06-06-2020 09:43

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Originally Posted by Box (Post 659468)
So you're saying that a medical research paper done by political activists is scientifically unfounded?

Political SCIENCE does NOT makes you a fucking scientist.
Its probably why people like aLg0re thinks they are an authority on climate

remarkable

:lifter Finest Kind as usual!

tom kelly 06-06-2020 10:59

The WUHAN VIRUS:
 
Sir Richard Dearlove (Former head of MI-6) from 1999 until 2004, Britain's equivalent of the CIA cited a report written by Prof. Angus Dalgleish of St, George's Hospital, University of London and Norwegian virologist Biger Sorensen which presents evidence suggesting the Virus was manufactured in a lab. The paper examines Covid-19's genetic sequence, and concludes that key elements were "inserted" and are unlikely to have evolved naturally. The Spike protein structure of SARS-CoV-2 enables the virus to bind specifically to human cells. Vaccine researcher Nikolai Petrovsky Flanders University stated 'The virus is optimized for penetration into human cells rather than animal cells. WHO and WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE. more important is WHY do you believe or TRUST anyone....

Gypsy 06-06-2020 15:41

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Originally Posted by Airbornelawyer (Post 659478)
My first attempt at creating a Covid-19 meme.

Well done.

Airbornelawyer 06-08-2020 23:33

From the Washington Examiner: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...virus-lockdown

The article is short on details, for the most part, but does add more evidence regarding the human cost of the lockdowns.

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Since stay-at-home orders were put into effect in late March, the National Centers for Missing and Exploited Children has seen an “explosion” in the number of abuse reports to its cyber tip line, the agency’s chief operating office, Michelle DeLaune, told members.

“We have more than doubled the number of cases that have been received,” said DeLaune. “In April, our cyber tip line reports were 300% higher than they were in April of last year.”
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Camille Coops, vice president of public policy at the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network, said shelter-in-place orders prompted an uptick in the frequency and severity of abuse within the home, based on reports the organization received.
There are also several recent news reports on a 40% to 50% drop-off in emergency room visits nationwide. This has immediate costs as in many cases we simply do not know what happened to many of these people who did not seek care, and longer term costs as many hospitals are having financial troubles and are being forced to lay off staff and cut back services. This has disparate impact on the poor, since many lack adequate health insurance and the ER has often seemed their only option. I have been in that boat myself. Also, since the poverty rate among blacks is significantly higher than among the population in general, blacks are disproportionately impacted. But black lives apparently only matter in certain cases.

JJ_BPK 06-09-2020 09:12

Is It Taco Tuesday?
 
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If this belongs in the Comedy Zone, pls move.

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Originally Posted by SmartNews Keeping you current

The Race for a Coronavirus Vaccine Runs on Horseshoe Crab Blood

Pharmaceutical companies use the creature’s blue blood to test for contaminants

Horseshoe crabs are bled to harvest a key ingredient in tests used to ensure injected medicines such as vaccines are free of contaminants.

By Alex Fox, smithsonianmag.com, June 8, 2020 10:55AM


Humans owe a debt to the strange-looking, ancient horseshoe crab. Its blue blood is used in medicine to ensure that anything that gets injected or implanted into the human body is free of potentially life-threatening bacterial contamination. A special compound in the crab’s blood quickly clots in the presence of endotoxins, microbial byproducts that can be harmful, supplying a perfect natural test for purity. In the race to find a COVID-19 vaccine, horseshoe crab blood is very important.

But an estimated 50,000 crabs die during the annual blood harvest, and these ancient arthropods are also being threatened by pollution, overfishing and habitat loss due to sea level rise, reported Sarah Zhang in the Atlantic in 2018. Moreover, humans aren’t the only ones depending on the crabs (which are actually more closely related to spiders than true crabs). Migratory birds such as the threatened red knot are sustained by the blue-gray bunches of eggs the shelled creatures deposit by the thousands on beaches along the east coast of the United States.

For these reasons, animal rights groups, conservationists and a handful of companies have been pushing for the development and approval of synthetic alternatives to the milky-blue crab blood, reports James Gorman for the New York Times.

Now, an influential United States group has abandoned plans to list a synthetic alternative, called recombinant Factor C (rFC), alongside the tried and true blue fluid, reports John Miller for Reuters. The move by medical standards group U.S. Pharmacopeia (USP) would have given rFC equal standing with crab blood, which has long been the industry standard for testing, per Reuters.

The gist of the USP’s rationale is that rFC requires more testing, and that the current crab-derived test has a 30-year track record of safe and effective use, reports the Times. Many expected the alternative test to be approved for widespread use as it was in Europe by the European Pharmacopeia, per the Times.

For drug makers in the U.S., using the synthetic alternative will require a kind of application designed to demonstrate that the non-standard test is up to snuff—a hurdle that makes companies less likely to abandon the animal-based test, reports Caroline Delbert for Popular Mechanics.

In 2018, the blood harvest drained a third of the vital fluids from nearly 500,000 crabs in the U.S., according to the Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission. After scores of steel needles suck their blood, each helmet-shaped crawler gets released back to where it was caught—but thousands of them die in the process. Exactly how many are lost is a matter of debate, but Miller, in another recent story for Reuters, reports that conservation groups estimate switching to rFC could save 100,000 crabs each year.

For their part, the companies that make Limulus amebocyte lysate (LAL), the component of crab blood isolated for use in drug purity testing, say the supply of horseshoe crabs is up to the task of approving the surge in vaccine testing amid the race for a cure to the novel coronavirus, reports the Times.

One company using rFC, which is created by inserting horseshoe crab genes into lab-grown microorganisms, is Eli Lilly, per the Times. Eli Lilly recently announced it had started testing a COVID-19 antibody in humans with nothing but rFC for purity testing, Jay Bolden, a biologist with the company, tells Reuters. Bolden tells the Times his company made the switch because of the synthetic product’s consistent quality, its reduced costs, lack of reliance on an animal population as well as the company’s desire to avoid harming animals where possible.


More than 40,000 samples tested by Eli Lilly using rFC suggested it was just as good as LAL, Bolden tells Reuters. “And that data is out there, and it’s either not being looked at or it’s being ignored… There’s no reason the USP should be asking for more data.”

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PSM 06-09-2020 20:51

Hmmm. I'm seeing a pattern here: Horseshoe bats, horseshoe crabs, is it possible that playing horseshoes is the answer?

cat in the hat 06-10-2020 08:16

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Originally Posted by PSM (Post 659619)
Hmmm. I'm seeing a pattern here: Horseshoe bats, horseshoe crabs, is it possible that playing horseshoes is the answer?

Until some inner city Karen starts crying about "those poor animals have to walk around barefoot so you can play a game"

tom kelly 06-10-2020 12:45

The VIRUS:
 
Reading the recent postings to this thread leads me to believe a lot of savvy people comprehend the science, biochemistry, genetics, and virology about this virus. SO how many believe that the Bio-Weapons Lab at The Naval University of Engineering in Wuhan China headed by Maj.Gen. Chen Wi was working on this particular virus for scientific investigation as a possible weapon or was it being looked at for a vaccine development ? My vote is that Dr. Wi was trying to weaponize the virus & due to poor or lax safety procedures the virus was spread first in Wuhan and than the rest of the world. The CCP IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED especially when verified by the WHO. COMMENTS ?????


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