Fine bidness. I very much appreciate the indulgence and thanks for taking the time with your views on several questions, e.g. the video, stages of the disease, etc. Was not aware of the personal aspects and you'll not get trivializing of substance abuse issues out of me - I know & deal with too many of the cast-offs from a local VAMC.
Drive on sir.

I would think it's a rigged study with an outcome fixed before it's finished.

As far as I read it's only HCQ.

Everything I've read said it works best along with Zinc and Zpacs.

Any reason why the study dropped the other two?

A lot of time tin foil hat stuff is based on good reasons.

My reading in the last few weeks is the same regarding a "cocktail" of sorts with those other 2 (zinc & Azithromicin) also administered (and mugwump this is not a dig at your citing of the ongoing study). But it does seem that, whether from Chicoms teaming with Costa Rica or physicians across the US, anything not done by NIH/CDC gets treated as "anecdotal" and that word gets used in a dismissive manner. It may be an incorrect impression but the administration spends a lot of time on messaging to the peasants.

Don't know, I'm not involved. HCQ is also used alone clinically but I agree that small open label studies have shown greater decreases in viral load in nasal swabs when HCQ and azithromycin are used together. Haven't searched lately for the effect of HCQ/Zpac/zinc on treatment outcome hint hint.

But nasal swabs are notoriously inaccurate. I hate to keep bringing up anecdotal stuff but my daughter tested neg twice, once with a falling O2 saturation, before her supervising doc ordered her into the hospital where she finally tested + on PCR.

"Confounding variables" are the bane of clinical research and if adverse events are noted, sorting it out with multiple agents is a nightmare.

I held my nose and voted Trump and I'll hold my nose and vote for him again. That said I'll now criticize his approach to all of this stuff.

Fauci is doing his job and giving his opinion but Trump doesn't have to obey him. Trump has the CDC, NIH, USAMRIID, Lawrence Livermore, a slew of lawyers, a vengeful spirit, and the Defense Production Act in his pocket. There's nothing holding him back from commandeering these research operations and directing them to perform studies in the national interest. Add about 10 Big Pharma operations to that mix who have clinical teams, biostatisticians, databases, experience, and infrastructure already in place.

Use them--It's not all about masks and gloves. It's a bit risky, because one of our cultural strengths is the person staring off into the distance and wondering "what if?" but when we're flying blind sometimes we need answers.

This is an informed guess but I think HCQ's role is in prophylaxis and not treatment, i.e. preventing the disease and not treating it. That would be a game-changer.

Treatment emphasis is moving to inhaled nitric oxide and immune enhancement. NO worked better than HCQ during the SARS epidemic.

See this:

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infecti.../covid19/86410

Trump listened to him at the start and still listens to him some even today.

Fauci has shown himself to be a believer in failed models and in the pocket of big pharma.

Just my opinion of course.

I'd bet on it! Real numbers are probably 50 x higher than official stats which drops CFR dramatically

Two thumbs up. Sitting in the sun (much greater Vitamin D production than pills) is best benefit/risk activity there is.

Black/brown people have chronically low VitD levels because they produce much less at northern lattitudes and they are dying at disproportionate rates. Before attaching this to income disparity as the left is doing a medical reason should be investigated.

Well the failed model part is indisputable for this first wave, at least. I still worry about the path of the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic and the fall (mild first wave, hellacious second wave, moderate third wave).

If we extend the Bronx/Queens serology study to the whole nation (and given the lesser density outside NY I think that's a bit of a stretch) that still leaves 80% of the nation susceptible in the fall.

That's an argument for opening the economy and stacking cheese while we can IMO, not for staying home and continuing isolation.

The President (any President) has a contractual as well as moral and fiscal obligation to serve over 330,000,000 people in America and those around the world. It’s his (any President) responsibility to keep the engine lubed and turning over again and again.

Sometimes something breaks and has to be fixed. Good “Presidents” surround themselves with good and likeminded folks that actually know how to fix the problems. I think he’s done that or tried to do that even when some of those folks have had an ulterior motive to undermine him (this President more so than any President before him.)

It’s his number one job to help Americans be fully productive and employed to the fullest extent possible. Sometimes that leaves some others with less than a satisfactory experience.

JMO-YMMV

I too held my nose but this time around I am happy to be a Trump supporter and vote for him again.

ETA: it doesn’t help to have nearly 98% of the media openly destroying and making up shit to hurt him at the expense of the country!

Funny you should mention that. Cheese is, and will continue to be available, as will butter, ice cream and (almost) all other dairy. But things need to be running again for awhile to allow the fluid milk to be utilized (schools, restaurants) rather than tossed because milk plants don't flip on a dime to start producing some other form of dairy. But them cows gon' produce, and get milked, regardless - what's able to be done with the output is important. And that's only one very tiny piece of the engine.

It would appear that "Follow the Money" still applies.

Full Measure with Sharyl Attkisson - Hydroxychloroquine and Remdesivir

"Sharyl Attkisson's latest Full Measure episode reports on politics, money, and medicine colliding with the COVID-19 crisis.

Attkisson interviews three accomplished medical experts who are calling for the politicization of COVID-19 to come to a screeching halt because it is dangerous, scaring patients, and costing lives and the financial conflicts of interests must be further examined.

They also note that the media is not helping the situation......"

More like exacerbating it. Yet the sheeple still follow.

Well, this is interesting.

So just what are the real numbers?

"‘How Could the CDC Make That Mistake?’ "

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...-texas/611935/

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is conflating the results of two different types of coronavirus tests, distorting several important metrics and providing the country with an inaccurate picture of the state of the pandemic. We’ve learned that the CDC is making, at best, a debilitating mistake: combining test results that diagnose current coronavirus infections with test results that measure whether someone has ever had the virus. ........"

"Have" and "Had" total might be nice to know when this is over - but I'm pretty sure all the lock down panic is over who has it "Now".

I've said it elsewhere... this will all go away as soon as President Trump leaves office.

Georgia is combining results

https://www.11alive.com/article/news...f-c22a1ca65ab2

Unless there is a magic USA Master database with separate & unique elements for recording each different test results and space for future tests that aren't invented yet..

:D:D:D

Have you seen the latest test??