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Pete 04-20-2020 19:11

Good set of tests just starting in CA

Two different communities not that far apart. One mostly rural and one mostly urban. Testing for both the virus and antigens.

"California researchers test everybody in one town for coronavirus"

https://news.trust.org/item/20200420214536-n2156

"BOLINAS, Calif., April 20 (Reuters) - Researchers began testing an entire town in northern California for the novel coronavirus and its antibodies on Monday, one of the first such efforts since the pandemic hit the United States.

Bolinas, a wealthy beach town in Marin County, near Silicon Valley, raised funds to test all 1,680 of its residents, in partnership with University of California-San Francisco (UCSF).

Dr. Aenor Sawyer, an assistant professor at UCSF and a Bovinas resident, said the town is uniquely situated to teach the medical community about how the disease spreads because it lies two miles (3 km) from a highway with no through road.

"So we're fairly isolated, rural, and (with) stable ecosystems right now for the last several weeks. So it will be very interesting to see the footprint of the virus in this arena," Sawyer said....."

and

"...Researchers have chosen the Mission District, a vibrant inner city neighborhood with Latino roots in San Francisco, for the second location. Testing will start there on Saturday.

"There are two paired sites that are going on right now: One here in Bolinas, which is very rural and people are quite separated and it's isolated. And another, less than an hour's drive away, in the Mission District of San Francisco, where it's very densely populated, people live very close to each other, and it's very connected," said Dr. Bryan Greenhouse, an assistant professor at UCSF and one of the study's researchers....."

About time

Pete 04-21-2020 08:04

An interesting piece on a worker forgotten in all this.

"...There are few high-traffic businesses more densely populated than grocery stores. In fact, within the U.S. economy retail supermarkets have the highest foot traffic of any business sector in the entire economy; that’s just an empirical fact…. and the coronavirus impact increased that foot traffic by an average of 40 percent. Now, stop and think about this logically & apply a large dose of common sense. Think about human-to-human interface...."

More at the link

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...H0#more-189620

Badger52 04-21-2020 10:46

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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 658282)
An interesting piece on a worker forgotten in all this.

"...There are few high-traffic businesses more densely populated than grocery stores. In fact, within the U.S. economy retail supermarkets have the highest foot traffic of any business sector in the entire economy; that’s just an empirical fact…. and the coronavirus impact increased that foot traffic by an average of 40 percent. Now, stop and think about this logically & apply a large dose of common sense. Think about human-to-human interface...."

More at the link

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...H0#more-189620

Indeed. At either the grocery store on my end of town, or the Walmart out at the interchange it's not hard to avoid folks and keep the .Guv determined distance. Except for the 5 teen-age stockers in a single aisle gabbin' as they put in new shelves of Ramen. And ACTIVE case load declining, and new case rate declining. Tiny numbers relatively speaking in my AO but the math is what it is. Then again, we're not Madison, starved for our Starbucks. Cookie-cutter diagnosis = fail.

I wonder how much of the stay-hidden approach is from those that have the ear of the statehouse and would be jealous if some deplorable county was allowed to return to more of their productive life.

GratefulCitizen 04-21-2020 11:58

Not only is the denominator wrong, the numerator is, too.

How many of those deaths would've happened anyway?
How many aren't directly related to the virus?

Need to keep track of total deaths from illness/disease (not to include injury deaths) and compare it to what is normal for the time of year.
The difference and rate of change of that difference would give an idea of total lethality and growth rate of the virus.

Pete 04-21-2020 12:25

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This is an old one from a while ago.

Fine print at the bottom has where the numbers came from.

JJ_BPK 04-21-2020 15:13

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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 658295)
This is an old one from a while ago.

Fine print at the bottom has where the numbers came from.

If that reduction in BLUE is real, 13k down to 5k??
NY should get the Nobel prize for medicine,, or MATH. :munchin

PRB 04-21-2020 15:19

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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK (Post 658304)
If that reduction in BLUE is real, 13k down to 5k??
NY should get the Nobel prize for medicine,, or MATH. :munchin

Or, even if they had the other issues...cancer/flu/whatever....if they also tested pos for CV they were probably reported as CV deaths...rightly or wrongly

Ret10Echo 04-21-2020 16:07

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Originally Posted by PRB (Post 658305)
Or, even if they had the other issues...cancer/flu/whatever....if they also tested pos for CV they were probably reported as CV deaths...rightly or wrongly

There was an article recently in the Baltimore Sun

Quote:

Maryland doctors sound the alarm after seeing drop in heart attacks and strokes amid coronavirus pandemic



The number of people suffering from such symptoms likely hasn’t gone down that much, health care providers fear. Instead, they believe patients have chosen to avoid emergency room visits to their own detriment


Providers in Maryland have reported seeing below-average caseloads since the beginning of March, which some attribute to patients looking to minimize their risk of catching COVID-19 in a hospital.
Because hospitals are where "sick" people go and the MSM has portrayed them as virus-laden war zones....

YOMV

Pete 04-22-2020 09:27

For all you that thought you might have had it in January or February - you may just have.

"Timeline reset: CDC confirms weeks-earlier California deaths"

https://news4sanantonio.com/news/nat...ifornia-deaths

"...Santa Clara County officials said Tuesday the people died at home Feb. 6 and Feb. 17. Before this, the first U.S. death from the virus had been reported on Feb. 29 in Kirkland, Washington. The Medical Examiner-Coroner received confirmation Tuesday that tissue samples sent to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention tested positive for the virus, officials said...."

Way past time for large scale antigen testing.

JJ_BPK 04-22-2020 09:35

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Maryland doctors sound the alarm after seeing drop in heart attacks and strokes amid coronavirus pandemic

The number of people suffering from such symptoms likely hasn’t gone down that much, health care providers fear.

Instead, they believe patients have chosen to avoid emergency room visits to their own detriment

Providers in Maryland have reported seeing below-average caseloads since the beginning of March, which some attribute to patients looking to minimize their risk of catching COVID-19 in a hospital
Or is there a good probability that the powers to be have re-classed deaths to make their COVID-19 numbers look good for the gloom-n-doom scare tactics??

AND the GOV Handouts?? :munchin

Sohei 04-22-2020 09:46

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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK (Post 658337)
...AND the GOV Handouts?? :munchin

Good opportunity to buy some votes.

Box 04-22-2020 09:50

The fun fact is - if we find out that COVID-19 was "worse" it just means that its actually less-worse - more infections that were so minor that it was never even noticed only means that the zombie virus is an even smaller percentage-threat than our elected hype-resentatives have told us it was !!!

Stay Woke people - don't be oppressed by the governing class because you refuse knowledge - the oppressors are all out getting a bag while the rest of us are watching the value of our retirement accounts dwindle away.
These fools are out of pocket and i am hip to the drama!

...the disease goal posts move around like roaches at Beck's Romance Motel

First we were told flattening the curve was to stop the spread...
...but it didnt really stop the spread. If you want to stop the spread, put away the Nutella.

Then it was to stop the disease...
...which it didnt - theres even articles on the web selling doomsday info that COVVID might be spread VIA fart clouds

North Korea has no cases - China is cured - Germany is fixin' to send the Chinese an invoice and somehow, here in the USA the cure (or lack thereof) seems to be a partisan matter as opposed to a medical matter.

Medicine - its a thing.
Really - its been a thing for generations and suddenly we have all willingly emptied our piggy banks into the parking meter of Pandemia. (its a new word - I just made it up)
Pandemia is NOT a disease problem - Pandemia is a place.
Pandemia is a place halfway between the flu, not the flu, and medical politics.

I KNOW that adds up to three halfs - but Pandemia is a really big place.

If a gazllion people find out they had the zombie disease that means the morbidity is a gazillion times less than advertised.
Unless of course you live in Pandemia.
In Pandemia we wear masks under the verified medical opinions that the masks we are wearing will not stop or prevent the virus - but at Ft Pandemia you cant even go in the Commissary to buy your two-pack of shit tickets unless you are wearing a mask.

Now - we are suggesting that not only is it possible that the virus was much more widespread and much LESS fatal than we thought - we are simultaneously expected to believe that phase-2 of the zombie apocalypse will be even more worser than phase one of the zombie apocalypse.

Welcome to Pandemia - please make sure you mask is secure before signing for your TP ration.
...and for fuck sake - wash your hands - its the best method known for preventing the spread of disease.

Old Dog New Trick 04-22-2020 10:11

Found on twitter. I have no idea if valid and can’t find the information elsewhere.

Wuhan virus statistical comparison of Dem versus Rep controlled states, as of 4/20/20

Dem: NY, NJ, MA, PA, CA, MI, IL LA, CT, MD
Pop: 104.8 million
Cases: 571,161
Deaths: 34,626

Rep: TX, FL, OH, AZ, TN, IN, MO, SC, AL, OK
Pop: 103.1 million
Cases: 97,150
Deaths: 2,626


There are thirty states and about 115 million people missing.

Box 04-22-2020 10:30

ODNT - those statistics are flawed.

We all know that the red states enjoy white priveledge while it has become common knowledge that the virus is racist.

OF COURSE the stats in blue states are going to be worse - it is because Trump hates blue states and has colluded with the virus in an obvious attempt to tilt the election.


My wokeness is on duty 24 and 7 - including religious and federal holidays - not only am I always on the clock, I live in downtown Wokeville - the capital city of Pandemia.

JJ_BPK 04-22-2020 10:46

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Stealing, Thanks :D

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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick (Post 658340)
Found on twitter. I have no idea if valid and can’t find the information elsewhere.

Wuhan virus statistical comparison of Dem versus Rep controlled states, as of 4/20/20

Dem: NY, NJ, MA, PA, CA, MI, IL LA, CT, MD
Pop: 104.8 million
Cases: 571,161
Deaths: 34,626

Rep: TX, FL, OH, AZ, TN, IN, MO, SC, AL, OK
Pop: 103.1 million
Cases: 97,150
Deaths: 2,626


There are thirty states and about 115 million people missing.



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