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alfromcolorado 01-15-2009 22:33

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Originally Posted by JAB10th (Post 244156)
It is sad what they have done to the place and I miss those days of walking through history on the way to the teamroom. But I also miss the people and the area that surrounded that history. Iam glad that I got the chance to be stationed there and experience southern Bavaria.

It was sad that the US Army/US Government gave it up. They really didn't have to... Well, I believe they could have found a way to keep it at least...

As to disrespectful... Not sure what the Germans could have done with it, especially now that they are venturing out into international military deployments.

The Junkerschule has bad vibes for the Germans and everyone loves to remind them of "those days", even if most of those turds are dead.

alfromcolorado 01-15-2009 22:34

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Originally Posted by mike-munich (Post 244298)
And we miss you guys....

I was at Kloster Reutberg with my g/f last weekend and had a few beers on ya'll. :cool:

Damn dude, rub it in...

Couple of ladies I know said hello...

I am still trying to get the dickhead who WANTED photos to give me his address...

Hey, PM me about Mustangs in Germany.

mike-munich 01-16-2009 01:45

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Originally Posted by alfromcolorado (Post 244552)
Damn dude, rub it in...

Couple of ladies I know said hello...

I am still trying to get the dickhead who WANTED photos to give me his address...

Hey, PM me about Mustangs in Germany.


Damn brother, you know I almost cried when we were sitting there at "Zur Flintkasere" drinking our Augustiners...:(

I will PM you right away with all the intel you need. :cool:

Oh wow, tell the ladies, especially the young one, I said "hi"....:D

The Old Guy 01-16-2009 11:05

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Originally Posted by JAB10th (Post 244156)
It is sad what they have done to the place and I miss those days of walking through history on the way to the teamroom. But I also miss the people and the area that surrounded that history. Iam glad that I got the chance to be stationed there and experience southern Bavaria.

CONCUR.

The very best assignment (1982 - 1985) in my 29 years of AFS. I miss the beautiful mountains, forests, villages and homes. It was picture book perfect, an enchanting time of my life. Prior to my last assignment in Germany (1998), my wife and I drove down to Bad Tolz and visited the sights. It broke my heart to see the condition of the Kaserne.

At one time, the beauty was beyond belief and that day it was home to a traveling circus and several elephants.

Conrad Y 01-23-2009 19:30

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I hate looking at the new pictures of my adopted home kaserne, I just prefer to remember the way it was.

lksteve 01-24-2009 10:07

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Originally Posted by mike-munich (Post 244298)
I was at Kloster Reutberg with my g/f last weekend and had a few beers on ya'll.

So that's where that AmEx charge came from? LOL...Next time, have a few beers FOR me...:p

mike-munich 01-24-2009 15:32

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Originally Posted by lksteve (Post 245707)
So that's where that AmEx charge came from? LOL...Next time, have a few beers FOR me...:p

Sir, actually I think they prefer VISA and Euro/Mastercard there... But if you don't mind, PM me your card number... :p j/k

Affirmative, I will have those beers FOR you then ! I wish somebody else would have the headache for me the next morning... :cool:

lksteve 01-24-2009 16:18

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Originally Posted by mike-munich (Post 245732)
Affirmative, I will have those beers FOR you then ! I wish somebody else would have the headache for me the next morning...

Can't help you there, Mike...gotta be careful how many folks you are having beers for...BTDT...;)

mike-munich 02-01-2009 05:31

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Can't help you there, Mike...gotta be careful how many folks you are having beers for...BTDT...
Roger that ! After I'm done having all those Reutbergs and Augustiners for you Gentlemen I might apply for a membership with the local AA group (if there is such a thing in Bavaria...;) ).

Just came back from a skiing trip to the Ötztal. Reminded me of the days at Brauneck when some of you had the ski training and I was tagging along...

lksteve 02-01-2009 11:08

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Originally Posted by mike-munich (Post 246990)
Just came back from a skiing trip to the Ötztal. Reminded me of the days at Brauneck when some of you had the ski training and I was tagging along...

Not cool...LOL...oh, for the days when I had a season pass to the Brauneck and was expected to ski every weekend off and several times during the week...Berg Heil...

mike-munich 02-02-2009 02:39

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Originally Posted by lksteve (Post 247042)
Not cool...LOL...oh, for the days when I had a season pass to the Brauneck and was expected to ski every weekend off and several times during the week...Berg Heil...

I usually go on the day pass (well, I'm not too far away). It's $37 per day now (ouch, cops don't make much $$$)

Sir, your season pass is around $500 now...:o

Draxlhang anybody ? My skiing equipment is still in my car....:cool:

Ski Heil !

Hartley 02-02-2009 11:16

Mike, that picture sure brought back some memories - the lift has changed but the slope really hasn't..
Passes? All I remember is the pocket full of coupon books.. a real joy when you had a big class and the lift guy was trying to count 'em all.

mike-munich 02-03-2009 01:45

Hartley, you are right, the slopes haven't changed in the 26 years I've been skiing the Brauneck. Garland is still my favorite. :cool:

Technology has moved on quickly though, instead of punching your lift ticket they use credit card sized RFID-chip access cards now that are touchless. Pretty neat, no need to take the gloves off at the lift.

lksteve 02-03-2009 07:08

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Originally Posted by mike-munich (Post 247163)
Sir, your season pass is around $500 now..

They were about $125 back in the day...that was part of a group rate...I think individuals were shelling out about $175...

mike-munich 02-03-2009 08:38

That's what I call inflation... Maybe it's the price of the RFID chipcards ? :p

JAB10th 02-04-2009 03:35

Man, looking at all the pictures of Toelz brings back allot of memories.

Conrad, I remember the day of the closing ceremonies. Col Banks was there. It must have been a sad day for him. I saw your picture of the coin for the closing of Bad Toelz and I remembered I had one, so I had to go dig it out.

I would like to say thanks to all of you that have posted pictures, they bring back allot of good memories.

Biff...

Richard 02-04-2009 10:28

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Originally Posted by lksteve (Post 247345)
They were about $125 back in the day...that was part of a group rate...I think individuals were shelling out about $175...

Mid-70s we paid something like $45 for a season pass for the family. Loved the pic of the Brauneck and sure do miss it all. My first stab at the Garland included two good turns and a fall which ended when I reached the bottom of that steep SOB. :p I got better and learned to love it...especially when the other slopes turned to nothing but icy mogul fields as your neared the bottom of the runs.

Richard's $.02 :munchin

drleach 02-04-2009 11:13

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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 247610)
My first stab at the Garland included two good turns and a fall which ended when I reached the bottom of that steep SOB. :p I got better and learned to love it...especially when the other slopes turned to nothing but icy mogul fields as your neared the bottom of the runs.

Never got good enough to tackle the Garland, but had great times sitting at the top and watching people slide to the bottom---slick ski suits were the best.

drleach

lksteve 02-04-2009 12:55

We skied the Garland once a day with rucks...never really liked it, unless there was fresh snow...then it was fun...we tried making it the last run of the day, but realized we could hurt someone, so we made it the run before our mid-morning brotzeit...

csquare 02-04-2009 14:30

VW Moguls
 
I remember one afternoon coming back down to finish the day, we were busting down the Garland. A few of us were doing alright and some others were nothing but ski and equipment bombs falling down the slope. But one guy hit one of those monster moguls pretty dang hard, in order to stop himself and look around for other falling pieces of equipment. The dang mogul broke off and started sliding down the slope. It look as big as a VW beetle.
Now that was a sight!

mike-munich 02-05-2009 01:34

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I guess that's why I like Garland so much. It's crazy...:p

Ahh, good old days...:(

Conrad Y 02-10-2009 15:00

Garland Skiing
 
If you got enough snow during the ski season a cornice forms above the Garland. It was quite a thrill. I would recommend it to whoever goes out there this year to try it. The cornice seems to be overlooked by the locals every year so it was always virgin for me.
Do you all remember the night skiing we would do where we waited in a hutte of our choice and drank (what else) 'til a certain time then ski down drunk (I mean loose) to the waiting busses. In 1986 the top or second top group made Kamikaze headbands from some sheet and blasted down the mountain in a tuck yelling for everyone to get out of the way. :eek:

Utah Bob 03-28-2009 16:29

Great old pics gentlemen. Thanks. I've got a bunch from '68 I'll have to get digitized.
I gotta tell ya, that was probably the best time of my life!:D

Utah Bob 04-17-2009 09:39

Found one!
 
Here's an old pic of Flint. (Don't know how to put a thumbnail here)

Flint Kaserne 1968

Ramrod 1 09-25-2009 09:52

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I went back a few years ago, and it was sad to see what they were doing to Flint. At least the Turmkeller was still in tact and operational......

camp upshur 09-26-2009 10:42

This 1956 link (p43-49) may be of some historical interest:

http://books.google.com/books?id=-1Y...-1&output=html

Razor 10-03-2009 20:14

Pg 46 brought back good memories.

SF_BHT 02-08-2011 04:25

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Originally Posted by 7879FormerSFD (Post 374763)
African American gent who worked and ran the infirmary just above the NCO Club. A medic that worked out, lifted weights, and maintained a locked locker in the uppoer gym where they kept the weights and benches and he kept his own weights in the locker. Am hoping someone may remember him and his name.

He was an E 7

7879formerSFD

Would you Please post your intro as required and fill out your profile before you post again. :munchin

lksteve 02-08-2011 08:51

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Originally Posted by mike-munich (Post 247163)
Sir, your season pass is around $500 now...

damn, I hate getting old...I forgot I'd already posted to this...that happens when I spend the morning shoveling snow off my walk and parking spots...

mike-munich 02-08-2011 09:08

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damn, I hate getting old...I forgot I'd already posted to this...that happens when I spend the morning shoveling snow off my walk and parking spots...
Sir, don't worry about it. ;)

Shovelling snow... I don't envy you. Sunshine over here, and most of the snow melted away. But you know Bavaria, there is more to come before winter is over...:mad:

lksteve 02-08-2011 09:13

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Originally Posted by mike-munich (Post 374805)
Shovelling snow... I don't envy you. Sunshine over here, and most of the snow melted away. But you know Bavaria, there is more to come before winter is over...:mad:

Only two or three inches...and it fell in below zero temps, so it was light and fluffy...makes me want to go ski...but then again, there's that whole lift ticket issue (around $75 per day)...could have been much worse...could have been Sierra cement...that stuff is wetter and heavier than the snow that fell in Toelz...much heavier...

mike-munich 02-08-2011 09:21

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Originally Posted by lksteve (Post 374806)
Only two or three inches...and it fell in below zero temps, so it was light and fluffy...makes me want to go ski...but then again, there's that whole lift ticket issue (around $75 per day)...could have been much worse...could have been Sierra cement...that stuff is wetter and heavier than the snow that fell in Toelz...much heavier...


The lift ticket issue is what kept me from going skiing this year. And it got worse with the unexperienced Dutch skiers running us over. If you see the Autobahn with all the cars from the Netherlands one must think it's a country with 350 million people...:D

I hear you on the heavy snow. Gotta hate it...

lksteve 02-08-2011 09:26

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Originally Posted by mike-munich (Post 374810)
I hear you on the heavy snow. Gotta hate it...

Bought telemark skis...haven't used them in a couple of years...I swear, I'll get out this winter...LOL...I shovel snow every few hours during big storms...I know guys that wait until it quits, saying they only want to shovel one...I shovel four times, fifteen minutes a whack...they shovel once...with two or three breaks...and it takes an hour or more...there is no saving effort when it comes to snow shoveling./

mike-munich 02-08-2011 09:29

Somehow I'm glad that the janitor is doing the shovelling part for me...

Well, winter ain't over here in Bavaria. Maybe I get a half-day pass for me and the HH6 and get the skies out. I blew most of the cash for our tickets to the US of A in october....

lksteve 02-09-2011 21:39

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Originally Posted by mike-munich (Post 374814)
Maybe I get a half-day pass for me and the HH6 and get the skies out. I blew most of the cash for our tickets to the US of A in october....

Found this on the MWR website for FE Warren AFB...I live about 50 miles south of there...


Season Ski Passes Available
It’s not too early to get a great deal on season passes for the 2010/11 ski season. Military discount season passes are available now at ODR for the Loveland Ski Area, Keystone-Arapahoe Basin (Liberty Pass) and Copper/Winter Park/Steamboat (Patriot Pass Plus).

Loveland Season Pass – $149 adults, $119 young adult, $99 child. Active duty, reservists, National Guard, Coast Guard, Foreign Military and their dependants with I.D.
Liberty Pass (Keystone-A-Basin) – $195 adults, $112 child. Active duty, reservists, National Guard, Coast Guard, Foreign Military and their dependants with I.D.
Patriot Pass (Copper-Winter Park) – $229 adults, $114 child. Active duty, reservists, National Guard, Coast Guard, Retired Military, Foreign Military and their dependants with I.D.
Patriot Pass Plus (Copper-Winter Park & 6 days @ Steamboat) – $239 adult, $124 child. Active duty, reservists, National Guard, Coast Guard, Retired Military, Foreign Military and their dependants with I.D.
Monarch – $169 adults, $119 junior (ages 7 – 12). All active duty, retirees and their dependents.

mike-munich 02-10-2011 02:13

Actually the price aren't bad at all...

Season passes for the Brauneck start at €320 to €410. No discounts apply...:mad:

I think I get me a day-pass for €29 (€26 for senior citizens, but I'm 21 years short of that... LOL).

Enjoy the skiing in beautiful Colorado! I have some friends on the Aspen and Carbondale PD, they told me skiing in the Rockies is something else. Too bad I've been there in summertime. On the other hand, I got to hang out with Razor in the Suffern' Bastarads Tavern in the Springs and see a Rockies game in Denver with Firebeef. :D

Stras 02-10-2011 12:28

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Originally Posted by mike-munich (Post 375374)
Actually the price aren't bad at all...

Season passes for the Brauneck start at €320 to €410. No discounts apply...:mad:

I think I get me a day-pass for €29 (€26 for senior citizens, but I'm 21 years short of that... LOL).

Enjoy the skiing in beautiful Colorado! I have some friends on the Aspen and Carbondale PD, they told me skiing in the Rockies is something else. Too bad I've been there in summertime. On the other hand, I got to hang out with Razor in the Suffern' Bastarads Tavern in the Springs and see a Rockies game in Denver with Firebeef. :D

The price is free to telemark up the Brauneck and then ski down it.. and repeat..:cool:

It was a challenge finding Tony Hernandez' cross on the back side with the snow in Oct. But we found it nonetheless.

KW9598 02-10-2011 12:49

Stras...myself and a cpl other guys just posted a few good pics of Tony's memorial site. They've relocated the cross since we were there, well, since I was there at least. "SF Brothers" page in facebook, if you arent in there yet. Its a "private" group

MVP 02-10-2011 14:38

FB
 
I know FB is really attractive but the security issues and potential for identify fraud are extreme.

http://professionalsoldiers.com/foru...ad.php?t=32085

http://publicaffairs2point0.wordpres...now-about-you/

mike-munich 02-11-2011 01:38

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The price is free to telemark up the Brauneck and then ski down it.. and repeat..
Hmm, somehow I prefer the skilift....:cool:

As for FB, it's all a matter of how much information you give up there. Some people post everything about their lifes, and don't even have their privacy settings right...:rolleyes:


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