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Pete 04-12-2020 03:24

10 days of fairly flat new cases.

5 days of fairly flat deaths.

The "recovered" now outnumber the deaths.

Social distancing? Everything shut down? Other than not being able to go out to eat 2 or 3 times a week and get my hair cut I'm still able to go shopping for food (lots of people work there), get gas, go to the bank, go to the Post Office. Pretty much my normal routine. Walk by plenty of people while doing that.

Time for the Feds and Governors to start loosing up their choke holds.

Flattening the curve was to not over load med services all at once. Overall the curve has been flattened and med services have had a month to get ready and prepare.

Is it over? No, but it isn't a Prairie Fire driven by high winds.

Trumps big fault is he hasn't fire Gate's weasel and put in somebody would would do large scale testing, antigen and virus, in a zip code near a hot spot.

We've been dicking around 6 weeks and the above basic info is still unknown.

Badger52 04-12-2020 06:07

Recovered Plasma therapy
 
Milwaukee saw its first use this weekend of using plasma from a recovered patient.

Quote:

An elderly man critically ill from the coronavirus is among the first few patients in Milwaukee to receive a plasma transfusion in hopes that the antibodies from someone who has recovered from COVID-19 will help his body fight the virus.

“He tolerated it well and is in stable condition,” said Dr. Ajay Sahajpal, director of Advocate Aurora’s Health transplant program, and member of the team that administered the transfusion on Friday at Aurora St. Luke’s Medical Center. “We won’t know if he’s out of the woods for a week or so.”

Plasma transfusions are much like blood transfusions. They take a couple of hours and carry similar risks of fever, allergic reactions and the slight possibility for transmission of infectious disease. They’ve been used historically as last resorts to help squash rapidly spreading contagions.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration earlier this month approved clinical trials for the use of plasma transfusions in combating COVID-19 and has approved the treatment as an emergency investigational new drug.

“The biggest limitation to scaling this more broadly is that there are just not enough donors,” Sahajpal said.

Although more than 275,000 people across the U.S. have been infected with the virus, fewer than 10,000 are considered to have recovered.
This last statement is, in my view, a false figure. IMO that number is low because they are not tracking "recovered" at various levels the way they need to. "Oh, you went home for 2 weeks, still asymptomatic, here's another test, negative. Have a nice day." And that statistic drops off the radar because from states on up it's not being reported.

Pete 04-12-2020 06:18

Worldometer shows 30,502 in the US as recovered this morning which is over 20,000 more than the number they use in the article..

JJ_BPK 04-12-2020 06:29

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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 657952)
Time for the Feds and Governors to start loosing up their chokeholds.

Is it over? No, but it isn't a Prairie Fire driven by high winds.

Trumps big fault is he hasn't fire Gate's weasel and put in somebody would do large scale testing, antigen, and virus, in a zip code near a hot spot.

We've been dicking around 6 weeks and the above basic info is still unknown.

Agreed, but the fifth wheel, along with help from the MSM, is still spinning everything to crash the economy and elections.

As soon as anyone releases the isolation chokehold and there is a documented COVID-19 death they will be eaten.

I could easily see de Bas-ho and Cuomo "adjusting" their recorded number up by 30%, because they found an "error" in the process. They are now confident the record system works and it shows how all of POTUS's efforts are complete failures.


A little side-bar, the isolation is proving to show the Left is very quick to adapt extreme tactics to advance their version of the 1984 Dystopia INTO A REALITY.

Personally I would not rush to un-isolate. :munchin


PS: I have been locked in my 55+ condo since March 3rd. My daughter and family have visited twice, and are coming over today.

PPS: The assisted facility(1.5 miles away) that many leave here for, has had at least one confirmed COVID-19 and is causing a bit of a panic. Many that leave here and go there, also caom back for visits.. :(

Badger52 04-12-2020 11:13

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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK (Post 657955)
A little side-bar, the isolation is proving to show the Left is very quick to adapt extreme tactics to advance their version of the 1984 Dystopia INTO A REALITY.

Yup. Metro hive to middle Earth. One quick way to reveal the despot in waiting is to make the magic "Executive Order from the Governor" appear and watch what they do with it locally.

This is going to reinforce the adage that people get the government they deserve.

Pete 04-15-2020 04:38

Found this interesting story

"Israeli Professor Shows Virus Follows Fixed Pattern"

https://townhall.com/columnists/mari...ttern-n2566915

"Professor Yitzhak Ben Israel of Tel Aviv University, who also serves on the research and development advisory board for Teva Pharmaceutical Industries, plotted the rates of new coronavirus infections of the U.S., U.K., Sweden, Italy, Israel, Switzerland, France, Germany, and Spain. The numbers told a shocking story: irrespective of whether the country quarantined like Israel, or went about business as usual like Sweden, coronavirus peaked and subsided in the exact same way. In the exact, same, way. His graphs show that all countries experienced seemingly identical coronavirus infection patterns, with the number of infected peaking in the sixth week and rapidly subsiding by the eighth week..."

This is more on the story at the link. That story has a further link to more information.

The bottom of the second (original) story has the "He's a nut" push back.

https://translate.google.com/transla...9447171027.htm

They say he doesn't have enough data to make his claim - while they shut down the world with no data - just projections.

JJ_BPK 04-15-2020 12:39

and the numbers are in... :mad: More FACTS about who counts who.. The numbers are skewed and may never normalize.

The UK is not counting confirmed deaths of people not in an HRS hospital as they do not need to allocate funding for them.

I suspect other nations are downplaying so as not to scare the population :[

Except for NY & NYC who inflate their numbers to cast dispersions of ineptitude on 45.. :mad:

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Originally Posted by BBC
Coronavirus: Older people being 'airbrushed' out of virus figures, 14 April 2020

The official death toll has been criticised for only covering people who die in hospital - but not those in care homes or in their own houses.

Work and Pensions Secretary Therese Coffey told the BBC the daily figure was based on hospital deaths because "it's accurate and QUICK".

Meanwhile, scientists will begin a review of the UK lockdown later.

The evaluation will be passed to the government - but ministers have said it was unlikely restrictions would change.

The latest figures from the Office for National Statistics, which include every community death linked to Covid-19 in England and Wales, showed a total of 406 such deaths registered up to 3 April had occurred outside of hospitals.

That would have added an extra 11% to the official UK figures, based solely on deaths in hospitals, that were being reported at that time.

Of those extra deaths, 217 took place in care homes, 33 in hospices, 136 in private homes, three in other communal establishments and 17 elsewhere.




https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52275823


Pete 04-16-2020 06:32

In trying to guesstimate just how many people have the virus 15% pops up a lot.

Here it is again.

"1-in-7 New Yorkers May Have Already Gotten Covid-19"

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/1-7-y...191430969.html

"Bloomberg Opinion) -- Of the 215 women who delivered babies at New York-Presbyterian Allen Hospital and Columbia University Irving Medical Center in Upper Manhattan from March 22 through April 4, 214 were tested for the coronavirus that causes Covid-19. Thirty-three of them, or more than 15%, tested positive, even though only a few had symptoms. In Gangelt, a German town that makes a big deal out of Karneval (aka Mardi Gras) and had a major coronavirus outbreak after this February’s festivities, 500 residents were tested for evidence of either the virus or the antibodies that indicate one has recovered from it, and 15% of them tested positive as well....'

More at the link.

That large sampling in CA on the 5th still hasn't released their numbers yet. Wonder if it will come in around 15% also?

JJ_BPK 04-16-2020 06:43

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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 658068)
In trying to guesstimate just how many people have the virus 15% pops up a lot.

Here it is again.

"1-in-7 New Yorkers May Have Already Gotten Covid-19"

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/1-7-y...191430969.html

"Bloomberg Opinion) -- Of the 215 women who delivered babies at New York-Presbyterian Allen Hospital and Columbia University Irving Medical Center in Upper Manhattan from March 22 through April 4, 214 were tested for the coronavirus that causes Covid-19. Thirty-three of them, or more than 15%, tested positive, even though only a few had symptoms. In Gangelt, a German town that makes a big deal out of Karneval (aka Mardi Gras) and had a major coronavirus outbreak after this February’s festivities, 500 residents were tested for evidence of either the virus or the antibodies that indicate one has recovered from it, and 15% of them tested positive as well....'

More at the link.

That large sampling in CA on the 5th still hasn't released their numbers yet. Wonder if it will come in around 15% also?

I know it's never going to happen unless we all get Bill Gate's micro-bio-politically correct implant,,

But that, to me. is the 64,000.00 dollar question.

Penn 04-16-2020 18:19

There is a sense/instinct beginning to circulate in MSM, that the virus has an origin, that is Chinese and from a lab in Wahun providence. Hard to believe that open source information readily available was ignored, denied, and discounted as racist rhetoric.
How will this impact the 2020 election. If MSM still pushes a proChina policy, how the voting public will respond?

Sohei 04-16-2020 18:48

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Originally Posted by Penn (Post 658091)
...How will this impact the 2020 election. If MSM still pushes a proChina policy, how the voting public will respond?

I think it depends on how much of the voting public has actually paid attention to any of the circumstances surrounding the origin of the virus. My biggest problem is with those that take the medicine fed to them by the MSM without doing any due diligence on their part and actually digging into it and forming an opinion of their own.

Badger52 04-16-2020 19:50

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Originally Posted by Agoge2 (Post 658096)
My biggest problem is with those that take the medicine fed to them by the MSM without doing any due diligence on their part and actually digging into it and forming an opinion of their own.

Sadly, that is a huge chunk of people. Actually one of the behavioral infections that caused that was the bazillions of Microsoft products in offices all over, and its default IE browser, which was often setup to open to MicroSoftNBC. That monstrosity became a default source for countless people, who also then turned it on at home.

Bill Gates has been at it for a long time.

Ret10Echo 04-17-2020 06:04

This appears to be an attempt to relieve some of the "pressure" on the Chinese hiding the full impact of the virus in Wuhan.

WHOA! HEY!... Where did THOSE come from??

From Reuters

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China says nearly 1,300 virus deaths uncounted in Wuhan

Nearly 1,300 people who died of the coronavirus in the Chinese city of Wuhan, or half the total, were not counted in death tolls because of lapses, state media said, but Beijing dismissed claims that there had been any kind of cover-up
I'm guessing that there are at least one or two zero's missing...

YOMV

albeham 04-17-2020 06:27

Yep...more to follow. :munchin

Box 04-17-2020 06:41

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If MSM still pushes a proChina policy, how the voting public will respond?
Unassailable proof could surface that China deliberately launched a biological attack against planet earth in direct collusion with the DNC in an attempt to unseat President Trump...
...the Democratic party candidate still has 190 electoral votes in the bank just waiting to be cashed in on election day.


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