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Sdiver 04-21-2015 20:35

Aw Crap ... This is just going to add more fuel to the "Jade Helm conspiracy" fire ...

:munchin

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Russian Troops Coming to U.S. for Terror Drills, DoD Confirms

Russian “Airborne Assault Forces” will be arriving in Colorado this May for joint terror-war exercises with U.S. soldiers, according to U.S. officials and Russian military personnel cited in media reports. The Kremlin’s Defense Ministry and the U.S. Department of Defense both said it would be the first time in history that American and Russian airborne special operations troops would be training together on U.S. soil.

Analysts and commentators across the alternative media expressed alarm about the controversial announcement, likening it to a scene out of the movie Red Dawn or the predictions made by the late radio host Bill Cooper. It was not immediately clear exactly why the Obama administration decided to allow the scheme.

“The Russian soldiers are here as invited guests of the U.S. government; this is part of a formal bilateral exchange program between the U.S. and Russia that seeks to develop transparency and promote defense reform,” Cmdr. Wendy L. Snyder, U.S. Defense Press Officer for policy, told The New American in an e-mail. “This is the first time that American and Russian special operations troops have participated in a bilateral exercise.”

According to Snyder, the exercises — which she said would last about three weeks in all — will serve to train and improve skills related to terror-war fighting. About 20 Russian soldiers will be participating, with most of the training to take place on the Fort Carson, Colorado, Army base and a mountain training area several hours away.

“Aside from typical military training, the exchange will include discussions on the rule of land warfare, developing appropriate rules of engagement, and employing cultural literacy and competency in the tactical environment,” Snyder explained. “This type of training is routinely conducted by 10th Special Forces Group.”

While U.S. officials remained largely silent on the operation until contacted by the press, the Russian government has been touting the unprecedented terror drills through official announcements and news reports in state-controlled media for over a week. In fact, virtually all of the details about the exercise that emerged publicly early on came from Kremlin sources.

“According to the exercise scenario, soldiers of the two countries will hold a tactical airborne operation, including reconnaissance of an imaginary terrorists’ camp and a raid,” Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Col. Aleksandr Kucherenko was quoted as saying in official news reports, also noting that it was the first time such an exercise would be held. “The Russian Airborne Assault Force will contribute a special task group that will exercise with U.S. special service weapons.”

Before the official drills begin on May 24, the Russian government’s forces will reportedly be training to use a wide array of American military equipment at the U.S. Army’s Fort Carson base. Parachuting, operations planning, reconnaissance, assaults, raids, and evacuations will all be on the agenda. The training is expected to last until May 31, though U.S. officials said it would go until early June.

One of the highlights of the cooperation will be a joint terror assault and raid on a “camp.” The exercise will apparently bring together U.S. and Russian troops from the planning stages to the final evacuation from the scene by helicopter. Russian forces will also be attending a baseball game at some point during their stay, Kremlin sources reported.

According to a report entitled “The Russians are coming! First joint ‘Top Gun’ drills to be held in US” in the state-funded Russian media outlet RT, the agreement to hold the drills was drafted late last year by the Russian Airborne Command and a U.S. military delegation in Moscow. It was not immediately clear which government proposed the scheme or what the precise goals were, though apparently the Russians were invited to participate by the U.S. government.

“The U.S. military routinely conducts such joint exchanges with foreign forces to strengthen relationships, provide familiarization with each other’s tactics and procedures, and to exchange best practices,” DoD spokesperson Snyder explained. “The end result of this type of program is that our military has improved operational effectiveness with foreign forces as well as, and in this case, supporting the defense reform of Russia.”

President Obama has made improved ties with the Russian government a top priority it seems. Last month during a security summit, Obama even promised to pursue yet another controversial agreement with Russian officials to further slash both governments’ nuclear arsenals, saying the U.S. already controls more than enough atomic weapons.

Despite several high-profile apparent disagreements in recent years — on Syria, Libya, missile shields, and more — outgoing Russian President Dmitry Medvedev praised the Obama administration, saying relations between the two governments had reached their “best level” in a decade. Obama, meanwhile, thanked Medvedev for his “cooperation” and said he could not have asked for a “better partner” in Russia.

“Going forward, we’ll continue to seek discussions with Russia on a step we have never taken before — reducing not only our strategic nuclear warheads, but also tactical weapons and warheads in reserve,” Obama said during a speech at South Korea’s Hankuk University of Foreign Studies. “We can already say with confidence that we have more nuclear weapons than we need.”

After the summit, Obama also came under fire when he was overheard telling then-Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that, “This is my last election. After my election, I’ll have more flexibility.” Critics pounced on the statement from all angles to criticize Obama, with some claiming that he had sold out to the Russians.

Meanwhile, e-mails from the private intelligence firm Stratfor released by WikiLeaks show that top executives in the company — well-connected individuals, obviously — believed President Obama had taken Russian money for his campaign. The news has already become something of a scandal among alternative media outlets and commentators.

“The hunt is on for the sleezy Russian money into O-mans coffers. A smoking gun has already been found,” wrote Fred Burton, Stratfor’s Vice President of Intelligence. “My source was too giddy to continue. Can you say Clinton and [Chinese Communist] ChiCom funny money?” The company refused to confirm whether the e-mails were genuine, but most analysts believe they are.

This week, the Russian Navy is also engaged in unprecedented joint “war games” with the Communist regime ruling mainland China. The training exercises, taking place in the Yellow Sea, involve more than two-dozen vessels including submarines and destroyers.

http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2015/04/20...-dod-confirms/



Peregrino 04-21-2015 20:58

Why do I get a deja vu feeling about this?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/17...r-in-colorado/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012...e-on-u-s-soil/

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...at-fort-carson

Etc., etc., etc.

Must be a slow news night on the conspiracy circuit. If the rest of the article is as accurate as the "1st time in history" part, I'm not impressed. This looks like someone is republishing ancient crap to stir a pot - especially since Medvedev is listed as pResident and there's no mention of the Ukraine that I can find. That or it's a blatant attempt to discredit the source. Once again I regret not having more Alcoa stock in my portfolio.

The Reaper 04-22-2015 12:44

Good explanation, for those who have minds open enough to accept the truth as an explanation.

http://sofrep.com/40934/jade-helm-15...post-training/

TR

Gold Eagle 04-27-2015 09:29

I'm Thankful
 
Thanks to all for making this exercise clear. I would be honored to be part of a Robin Sage. With the conspiracy nuts out there it's sometimes difficult to know or believe what's going on. What it comes down to is trust.
I am surprised that this administration would put up the money and effort to do such a large scale exercise.

MtnGoat 04-28-2015 06:57

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Originally Posted by Gold Eagle (Post 581467)
Thanks to all for making this exercise clear. I would be honored to be part of a Robin Sage. With the conspiracy nuts out there it's sometimes difficult to know or believe what's going on. What it comes down to is trust.
I am surprised that this administration would put up the money and effort to do such a large scale exercise.

IMO, It's not this administration that fronts the money. It is a Joint Exercise that each Inter agency gets a Fiscal Year Training funds that they can use how they want to. USSOCOM and other Agency have always worked together, many of use have had DEA, FBI, DoS and Other Government Agency members with us on Missions in Afghanistan and Iraq. We have done small training events together here in the USA for many years. Prior to 911 and GWOT period. I think it is Smart on the part of USSOCOM to roll as many up into one be exercise to see how well we can work together; SF, Army, USMC, SEALS, FBI, DEA, ETC.

The Funding for SOF all falls on or comes from USSOCOM, so they likely just took each services training funds and used it for this training event. So really this administration did give the money for the FY, but not for this event specifically.

Box 04-28-2015 10:01

encoded JADE HELM update follows...
 
Right now I've got a few words for some of our brothers and sisters in the occupied zone:

"the chair is against the wall, the chair is against the wall",
"john has a long mustache, john has a long mustache".

It's twelve o'clock, America, another day closer to victory...

The Reaper 04-28-2015 10:07

Land of the free and the home of the brave, right?

TR

PSM 04-28-2015 14:10

Paranoia catches Abbott attention: gov orders Texas guard to monitor military exercises over fears of federal takeover

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Gov. Greg Abbott ordered the Texas Guard to monitor federal military exercises in Texas after some citizens have lit up the Internet saying the maneuvers are actually the prelude to martial law.

The operation causing rampant suspicions is a new kind of exercise involving elite teams such as the SEALS and Green Berets from four military branches training over several states from July 15 to Sept. 15

Called Jade Helm 15, the exercise is one of the largest training operation done by the military in response to what it calls the evolving nature of warfare. About 1,200 special operations personnel will be involved and move covertly among the public. They will use military equipment to travel between seven southwestern states from Texas and California.

On Monday, command spokesman Lt. Col. Mark Lastoria attended a Bastrop County Commissioners meeting to answer community questions and was met with hostile fire. Lastoria, in response to some of the questions from the 150 who attended, sought to dispel fears that foreign fighters from an Islamic State were being brought in or that Texans’ guns would be confiscated, according to a report in the Austin American-Statesman.

He was forced to refute martial law was underfoot and said misinformation has been spread by those with a “personal agenda.”

“You may have issues with the administation. So be it. But this institution right here has been with you for over 200 years,” he was quoted saying. “I’ve worn this uniform across five different administrations for 27 years.

Dallas Morning News
Pat

Loadsmasher 04-29-2015 13:46

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Originally Posted by PSM (Post 581588)
Paranoia catches Abbott attention: gov orders Texas guard to monitor military exercises over fears of federal takeover



Pat

He's sending the Texas STATE Guard, this is an important distinction. They are not a military force they are a volunteer organization. While it does have some very well trained and useful members (especially the medical folks), there are some not so useful or well trained members.

PSM 04-29-2015 16:03

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Originally Posted by Loadsmasher (Post 581670)
He's sending the Texas STATE Guard, this is an important distinction. They are not a military force they are a volunteer organization.

Yeah, I saw that.

Pat

miclo18d 04-29-2015 17:49

Yeah, we've seen how many STATE GUARD guys make some pretty large claims of being SF.

If you need a memory jog, go look up the HALL OF SHAME INDUCTEES thread.

letinsh 04-29-2015 19:55

I've seen the physical condition the TX State Guard are in....as long as the Jade Helm participants remain more than 10m from a road, I wouldn't expect any issue from them.... :rolleyes:

SF-TX 04-29-2015 20:21

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Originally Posted by letinsh (Post 581691)
I've seen the physical condition the TX State Guard are in....as long as the Jade Helm participants remain more than 10m from a road, I wouldn't expect any issue from them.... :rolleyes:

The TX State Guard is an all volunteer force that assists the state during emergencies. They don't get paid and only receive modest benefits. Would you stay in the ARNG if you weren't getting paid?

PSM 04-29-2015 20:35

Isn't this a UW exercise? Perhaps they can be "recruited". :D

Pat

Bleed Green 04-29-2015 20:57

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Originally Posted by SF-TX (Post 581694)
The TX State Guard is an all volunteer force that assists the state during emergencies. They don't get paid and only receive modest benefits. Would you stay in the ARNG if you weren't getting paid?

A free lunch or two and some bullets to shoot would satisfy my short term retirement plans. Where do I sign up?:D


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