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Stay safe.

Churchill on Islam over 100 years ago. The more things change the more they stay the same.

U.S. pastor says he will put Mohammed 'on trial'
 

It would appear we should prepare ourselves for quite a bit more violence.



U.S. pastor says he will put Mohammed 'on trial' next as NATO chief condemns Koran burning for starting riots
By Daily Mail Reporter

Despite clear evidence that his actions have led to multiple murders and widespread violence in the Middle East, controversial Florida pastor Terry Jones has vowed to step up his provocative campaign against Islam.

The radical pastor said that he was considering putting Islamic prophet Mohammed 'on trial' for his next 'day of judgement' publicity stunt.

His last, in which he oversaw the burning of a copy of the Koran after a six-hour mock trial, has been directly responsible for a wave of violence that began last night and has left 30 people dead and more than 150 injured.
The defiant stance has led General Petraeus, the head of NATO forces in Afghanistan, to join international condemnation of pastor Jones.

The General urged Afghans to understand only a small number of people had been disrespectful to the Koran and Islam.

He said: 'We condemn, in particular, the action of an individual in the United States who recently burned the Holy Koran.

'We also offer condolences to the families of all those injured and killed in violence which occurred in the wake of the burning of the Holy Koran.'

The call comes after a third day of violence in Afghanistan saw at least ten deaths, 78 injured and at least 17 arrests as protesters clash with security forces in Kandahar.

There were also reports of attempted suicide attacks on a U.S. military base in Kabul, but these were not directly linked to Mr Jones's actions.

The vilified pastor remains unrepentant about his actions, and has even hinted that he will take his provocative stance further.

He said in an interview: 'It is definitely a consideration to stage a trial on the life of Mohammed in the future.'

Such a move would trigger further violent protests in the Muslim world - even in more moderate Islamic states.

But Mr Jones shows no signs of backing down, refusing to admit the violence is his fault, and apparently proud of his actions.

In an interview at his Dove World Outreach Center, the pastor at least admitted that he was saddened by the Afghan attacks - but added that he would burn the Koran again if given the chance.

He told the New York Times: 'It was intended to stir the pot; if you don’t shake the boat, everyone will stay in their complacency.

'Emotionally, it’s not all that easy. People have tried to make us responsible for the people who are killed. It’s unfair and somewhat damaging.
'
Did our action provoke them? Of course. Is it a provocation that can be justified? Is it a provocation that should lead to death?

'When lawyers provoke me, when banks provoke me, when reporters provoke me, I can’t kill them. That would not fly.'

It is not surprising that Mr Jones should mention lawyers, banks and reporters as his tormentors.

The pastor, whose church membership has dwindled and who is a hate figure in his own community, is also near broke.

A second wave of violence began this morning when demonstrators clashed with security forces.

A statement by the Kandahar governor's office said that 10 protesters had been killed and 78 injured. Seventeen people, including seven armed men, were arrested, the statement said.

Mr Jones told the Times that, in recent weeks, he had received more than 300 death threats via phone and email, and had been told by the FBI that there was a $2.4 million contract on his life.

He said: 'I don’t right now feel personally afraid. But we are armed.'
Mr Jones admitted that he knew the Koran-burning stunt could lead to violence, adding: 'We were worried. We knew it was possible.'

But it clearly did not stop him.

The recent killings, which involved the beheading of two UN guards in the northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif, will not do anything to add to Mr Jones's international popularity.

His March 20 burning stunt received little press in Afghanistan at first. But after President Hamid Karzai condemned the burning of the book and religious leaders called for justice in sermons yesterday, thousands poured into the streets in several cities to protest.

Victim: The first named victim is 53-year-old Norwegian pilot Lt. Col Siri Skare who was working as a UN military advisor in the country

At least eight UN staff and around a dozen locals were murdered after a mob killed the UN guards, stole their weapons and opened fire.

In other attacks a suicide bomber struck Kabul and a violent demonstration rattled the southern city of Kandahar.

Security forces shot rounds into the air in Kandahar to stop a crowd from burning shops and cars bent on destruction while much of the rest of the city was closed.

Reports said 10 people were killed and around 78 were wounded.
Yesterday Mr Jones, who ignored international warnings that his actions would undoubtedly lead to violent reprisals, said the blame laid at the feet of the attackers.

He said: 'We must hold these countries and people accountable for what they have done as well as for any excuses they may use to promote their terrorist activities. The time has come to hold Islam accountable.

'Our United States government and our President must take a close, realistic look at the radical element Islam. Islam is not a religion of peace.

'We demand action from the United Nations. Muslim dominated countries can no longer be allowed to spread their hate against Christians and minorities.'

President Barack Obama did speak out about the violence last night - but did not mention Pastor Jones. He said: 'We stress the importance of calm and urge all parties to reject violence and resolve differences through dialogue.'

Obama said the desecration of the Koran 'is an act of extreme intolerance and bigotry' - but that was the closest he came to touching on the Jones subject.
The Taliban has reportedly claimed responsibility for the killings, saying they were part of a campaign of violence in the run up to presidential elections.
The bloodshed on Friday is the worst attack on the U.N. in Afghanistan since the war began in 2001.

Among those murdered were Norwegian, Romanian, Swedish and Nepalese nationals. Two were decapitated.

The Norwegian Defence Ministry said one of the Norwegian victims was Lt. Col Siri Skare, a 53-year-old female pilot.

Mr Jones, a former furniture salesman, was quick to respond to accusations that blood was on his hands over the killings.

he said: 'They must alter the laws that govern their countries to allow for individual freedoms and rights, such as the right to worship, free speech, and to move freely without fear of being attacked or killed.'

The controversial pastor triggered international outrage last year when he urged Americans to burn the Koran on the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.
He relented following an intervention by President Obama but on March 20 he and pastor Wayne Sapp finally carried out their threat.

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If he does it......
 

If he does it and nobody reports it - did it ever happen?

In this whole long thread nobody has mentioned the press.

I would argue a protest that isnt public is hardly a protest at all... It is people getting together regularly to bitch about how things are with no clear ideas of how to effect the situation or circumstance.

Maybe I am bowing to Islam and just dont know it since I havent burned a Koran in support of not supporting Islam. :rolleyes:


Pete:

If this poor excuse for a Christian pastor wouldnt be burning the Koran if it werent for the press making such a big deal about it. I stand by my comments that he is a sensationalist seeking to garner as much attention as possible without a thought to the consequences.

Crip

True but....
 

True but ever notice what the press reports? What they report depends on who is in the White House and if they can PO people who hate the US.

Having Obama in the White House is cramping their reporting right now.

Trials at Gitmo? War in the Middle east without a vote in congress? Over 800 US dead in Afghanistan the last 2 years?

About the only things they can focus on are the nutty preacher and Republicans who want to kill 70,000 kids.

So then we could effect the situation or circumstance by protesting publicly?

Not at all Crip, you guys are on the front lines, therefore any action you all take is going to do more to further the anti-Islamic cause than any small thing we do here at home...safe in our houses and lives......only because brave Men like you put thier lives on the line.

Holly:munchin

That's because they're completely objective and unbiased.:rolleyes:

Just wait until Pastor Jones shows up with one of these!

Richard :munchin

The press thrives on this kind of bullshit and they are equally as guilty on the consequences of what has developed............:(

Big Teddy :munchin

Holly, if you think about it...how can a private protest affect anything public? Really, it cannot.

Our Military isn't trying to further an anti-Islamic cause...

I wonder if the people on the other end of the phone threats had Middle Eastern accents or not. Anyone want to take bets? I am betting that most if not all of the callers had no foreign accent.

And also, this looks like a job opportunity. $2.4 million for 2 or 3 days work to be paid by Hezbollah. I wonder if final payment would be made in dollars, Saudi riyals or Iranian rials?

The Koran-burning church "pastor" sounds suspiciously like a cult leader. It seems as if his brand of "religion" has injured more than just foreign relations. If he's getting threatening phone calls, it very well could be from his own ex-parishioners.