Simple politics - :mad: - a game of ins and outs where either side, once in, will say and do anything to stay in - and the side which is out will do or say anything to get in and then try to stay there, too.

And so it goes...:(

Richard's $.02 :munchin

Well, it's over. I was reloading some 45 ammo and missed it. I looked to the north for a smoke column to see if the students had revolted and were burning Dove Creek HS.. Also remained on alert for groups of them marching down the road waving red flags and singing The Internationale, but so far all remains quiet.
I'll file sitreps as needed. :munchin

"Dr. _________________, Superintendent" is a chicken-shit. Sound like he copped the P-8 excuse for "why I didn't do my homework". Sorry, not impressed.

Ye-haw it is over...........not quite. They did not show the Obama speech in either of my kids classrooms today for reasons I do not know yet.

BUT......Thursday the September 10th

'Mr. Coleman's class to watch the President Obama's speech to students in conjunction with social studies lesson on citizenship and as encouragement for 3rd grade hard work/have fun ethic.'

I am I wrong think of a 'I Pledge' scenario?

Personally, I think too many ffolkes are reading way too much into the original intent of this whole matter - the idea of an educated citizenry being important to the success of a democratic republic is a tenet of the founding principles of our nation...and its future.

And so it goes...;)

Richard's $.02 :munchin

LOL

True, our success as a country will depend on how well educated the citizenry is.

But how it is handled in the classroom depends on the educator....are they open minded or do they have a narrow focus. A Southern Baptist might have a different perspective on citizenship versus a Buddhist or Muslim.

As for the original intent, at least one portion of the classroom activities was to write how you can help the President.


Were talking 3rd graders here, and to a large degree they think in black and white, right and wrong with little to no grey area in between.


Personally speaking, I would rather have them learn about citizenship in Scouting and that we do.

School year is 9 months long. "O" had a 1 hour talk. Most kids won't remember it by the Christmas holiday.
Maybe the few that do remember it will just remember that the Prez said, "Stay in school". I don't think that will cause the downfall of the country.:rolleyes:

Agreed......I just don't like it ;)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,548062,00.html

Obama Wasn't the Only President to Spark Outrage Over Speech to Kids

Tuesday, September 08, 2009
By Bret Baier

History Lesson

President Obama's speech to school children Tuesday has received a lot of attention. As we've reported President George H.W. Bush delivered a similar speech to students back in 1991. But the Washington Examiner reports the complaints leading up to Obama's speech were relatively muted compared to the outrage 18 years ago.

Back then, some Democrats not only denounced Bush's speech, but even launched congressional hearings into the matter and asked the Government Accountability Office to investigate federal funds used for the speech. The GAO eventually said the administration did nothing wrong.

But at the time -- October 10, 1991 -- the National Education Association said it could not "endorse a president who spends $26,000 dollars of taxpayers' money on a staged media event... while cutting school lunch funds for our neediest youngsters."

But, ahead of President Obama's speech -- September 6, 2009 -- the NEA wrote: "We applaud President Obama for delivering this message to students."

We don't know how much today's event cost taxpayers.

Little Less Talk

If you haven't been counting the number of speeches President Obama has delivered, CBS' Mark Knoller has.

Tuesday's address was the 263rd speech or set of remarks delivered by President Obama since he took office only 231 days ago -- that's 32 more speeches than days he's served. As Brit mentioned earlier, President Obama has delivered 28 speeches specifically on the issue of health care. But if you include all remarks in which he mentioned health care reform that number jumps to 121.

Meanwhile, a former top campaign adviser for the president says he wants a little less talk and a lot more action from his old boss. Former deputy campaign manager Steve Hildebrand tells the Politico: "I am one of the millions of frustrated Americans who want to see Washington do more than it's doing right now... I'm one of the many Americans who are losing patience."

By far the most senior member of Obama's political team to openly express doubts about the president, Hildebrand added: "The problem is, Obama isn't listening enough."....

My kid forgot it already.... If they really wanted to recruit him, they would have needed to have Sponge Bob.

A question for all you...

The School District made the decision not show the Obama speech because of parent complaints/concerns. Considering that, would you consider it out of step for a teacher to seemingly go against that decision and show it 2 days latter in a classroom?

Brief hijack....I believe it is still Dolores County HS...

As a teacher I'd be impressed :)that they would have the eggs (I can't spell in Spanish:p). He/She better document all the BS block checking to meet the standards (which are designed to keep a little boobie and all naughty words out of the classroom -- not introduce any number of valid discussions among the students. (I'd love to be in the Bright Certer of the Universe's civics class if they discussed the political backlash). Just to be on the safe side the "eggy" teacher should pair with another teacher . . . say, the Union rep. :p

Kind of what I was thinking. The teacher is a likable lad, but from his own mouth has tendency of pressing the envelope and can be a bit confrontational (which in this instance does not help my apprehensions). But in his defense the School District has been a bit sketchy on whether they are or aren't showing the event. As of September 4th it was up to the building Principals and Teachers, but as of today it was reported they weren't and there is nothing on the District website about what is going on.

So I'll have to call and see what is and isn't going on.

Aside from my dislike of Obama and my son coming home as stating we need to help President Obama, I think what is pissing me off is we planned to attend today and then we are told they aren't showing it in my kids classrooms, only to find out later from an item in a backpack they are doing it Thursday.......a Liberal tactic of bait and switch :D