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Box 04-04-2008 20:57

wow... I just noticed:
 
President and Poser both start with a "P"

consider the fact that "H" is the first letter in Hillary as well as "Holy shit this lady has got big balls.

...someone mentioned earlier in this thread, you could roll out a picture of her torturing puppies and people would still support her.
Its because by the time the pictures hit the internet the Klinton media machine would ave aleady explained how the puppies were actually previous torture victims of George Dubya, and Hillary was "unbeating" them to save them from the evil right wing conspiracy that is trying to punish cute little puppies. The photographer obviously "mis-shot" the photo causing it to appear as though she was beating the puppies and not unbeating them.

She would then go on Jay Leno and remind people that kittens are cute and that unbeating millions of oppressed puppies a day to save them from the right wing conspiracy nuts sometimes results in mis-shot photos.

Guy 04-05-2008 16:22

If I was in Hillary position...I'd pull out of the race to mitigate/minimize the damage for a possible "future" run @ POTUS....:munchin

Stay safe.

Guy 04-05-2008 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004 (Post 205440)
Anyone think if Obama loses the election or nomination, that he will run again in the future?

He's going too lose....:munchin

Stay safe.

Ret10Echo 04-07-2008 06:55

Great googley-moogley...she has higher turnover than the McDonald's drive-through staff...



Penn out as Clinton senior strategist By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 32 minutes ago



Hillary Rodham Clinton is turning to her communications chief and pollster to plan her presidential election strategy after giving the boot to a polarizing top aide because of his work on behalf of a trade agreement Clinton opposes.

Mark Penn, a lightning rod for controversy throughout Clinton's presidential campaign, left the campaign Sunday after it was disclosed he had met with representatives of the Colombian government to help promote the trade agreement.

Communications director Howard Wolfson and pollster Geoff Garin will direct the campaign's message and strategic efforts for the campaign going forward, said campaign manager Maggie Williams. She said Penn will continue "to provide polling and advice to the campaign."

Penn's departure comes as Clinton, considered the front-runner for the Democratic nomination last year, trails Barack Obama in delegates and the popular vote with a must-win primary in Pennsylvania April 22 and nine other contests remaining. Clinton almost certainly will end the primary season narrowly behind Obama in the popular vote and pledged delegates unless the nullified primaries in Florida and Michigan are counted — a scenario that seems remote. Her challenge will be to persuade some 800 superdelegates to back her despite the numbers.

Democratic strategist Chris Kofinis, who had been a spokesman in John Edwards' campaign, said Penn's departure was needed.

"The worst kept secret in the whole Democratic race was that Penn's campaign strategy was not working and that the Clinton campaign has unfortunately paid the price," Kofinis said. "The truth is this the best move the Clinton campaign could have made and something that I imagine most Clinton supporters wished had happened months ago."

The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that Penn, who serves as chief executive of public relations giant Burson-Marsteller, met with Colombian officials March 31 to help craft strategy to move the Colombian free trade agreement through Congress. Clinton opposes such a deal, and Penn later issued a statement apologizing for the meeting, calling it an "error in judgment."

But the apology evidently wasn't sufficient. Aides said both Hillary and Bill Clinton were angry upon hearing of the meeting and that Penn was quickly pushed to leave.

Penn was known to get into angry shouting matches with other members of Clinton's team, including longtime adviser Harold Ickes and media strategist Mandy Grunwald, who often disagreed with his strategic advice and resented his unchecked authority to design the candidate's message.

Penn pushed Clinton to adopt a meat-and-potatoes, issue-based campaign that stressed her "strength and experience" but managed to overlook voters' desire for fundamental political change, which rival Obama was able to capture.

According to Justice Department filings, Colombia agreed last year to pay Burson-Marsteller $300,000 to help "educate members of the U.S. Congress and other audiences" about the trade deal and secure continued U.S. funding for the $5 billion anti-narcotics program Plan Colombia.

The Colombian government announced Saturday it had fired Burson-Marsteller after Penn apologized for meeting with its representatives, saying his statement conveyed a "lack of respect" for the country.

82ndtrooper 04-08-2008 07:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guy (Post 205442)
He's going too lose....:munchin

Stay safe.

Yep.

It's my contention and I believe the conventional wisdom that she is going to force feed her own nomination down the throats of the democratic party with pulling the "super delegate" card out of her sleeve. :rolleyes:

What happens then ? Only two scenarios. One, the Obama supporters jump ship and vote a McCain ticket and he wins by a landslide. History will write that she was the one single factor that determined the democrats fate for yet another 4-8 years. She will only garner more "Clinton hate"

Two, she actually narrowly defeats the McCain ticket in Florida and Ohio, the independent vote goes to some schlep that enters the race between now and November, to win the election. The results are obvious. We will live in a tyranny government and it will look suspiciously like the day's of the Bill Clinton bafoonery.

Hold on to your seats sports fan.


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